After last night’s rally, Mayor Robb Davis asked me, how many more? It has been a trying first year as mayor of Davis and I don’t envy his position. But I also know when times are tough, I look to Robb Davis to know that I am doing the right thing.
After the Imam’s sermon became public and it became clear the breadth of his comments, we had a choice – we could get angry and allow these angry words to divide our community or we could try to work together to foster a better path forward.
I stand with Mayor Robb Davis, Rabbi Greg Wolfe, Pastor Bill Habicht, Rabbi Seth Castleman and many others in this community, believing that we are stronger together than we are fighting among each other. For those reasons I have chosen to accept the words of Imam Shahin at face value and follow the lead of both Mayor Davis, who acknowledged that the apology was not enough, and Rabbi Castleman, who stated that an apology is only as good as the deeds that follow.
Yesterday, Gail Rubin, whom I have never met, wrote a critical piece in the Vanguard which I was more than happy to publish.
One thing that is striking to me is that she calls it “selective outrage,” but then makes the same mistake that Donald Trump did. She writes in her near lead: “Either all racism is bad, or all racism is acceptable. Call out with equal measure Antifa and the Alt-right along with Black Lives Matter and White Supremacists.”
This is the same moral equivalency mistake that Trump made. He caught fire for initially refusing to call out white supremacists by name. The White House had to put out a second statement that 
added in a reference to both sides. He then issued a third statement that was stronger, but on Tuesday he reverted back to form, “I think there’s blame on both sides.”
A bipartisan chorus has criticized him for this comment and he compounded it by saying that white nationalists include “some very fine people.”
I find it very telling that Ms. Rubin would use similar language and throw in, as moral equivalents to the neo-Nazis and the KKK, Black Lives Matter – who protest against police killings of black people. Black Lives Matter is a moral equivalent to the KKK and the neo-Nazis? Really?
I support the work of Black Lives Matter even if I don’t always agree on tactics with them. They are not a hate organization. They are not equivalent to the neo-Nazis or the KKK.
Neither, for that matter, is Antifa.
There is a good piece by Peter Beinart in the Atlantic on Antifa. He writes, “Trump is right that, in Charlottesville and beyond, the violence of some leftist activists constitutes a real problem. Where he’s wrong is in suggesting that it’s a problem in any way comparable to white supremacism.”
Antifa is largely an anarchist movement (which is very different from mainstream liberalism, by the way), and they “generally combat white supremacism not by trying to change government policy but through direct action.” Mr. Beinart says that “some of their tactics are genuinely troubling.”
He writes, “Antifa is not a figment of the conservative imagination. It’s a moral problem that liberals need to confront.”
However, he said that “saying it’s a problem is vastly different than implying, as Trump did, that it’s a problem equal to white supremacism.”
He notes, “It’s no coincidence that it was a Nazi sympathizer—and not an antifa activist—who committed murder in Charlottesville.”
Indeed, according to the Anti-Defamation League, “right-wing extremists committed 74 percent of the 372 politically motivated murders recorded in the United States between 2007 and 2016. Left-wing extremists committed less than 2 percent.”
We’ll leave aside the issue of false equivalency that Ms. Rubin falls prey to.
I’ve been told that the protest was about defending the Jews, so I find it very interesting that there is such concern about the anti-Semitism on the part of the Imam, that Ms. Rubin falls silent on the anti-Semitism in Charlottesville. The demonstrators were chanting lines like “Jews will not replace us!”
Marchers displayed swastikas on banners and shouted slogans like “blood and soil,” a phrase drawn from Nazi ideology. “This city is run by Jewish communists and criminal (n-word),” one demonstrator said according to an Atlantic article.
Victor Styrsky posted on Sunday that he showed up in Davis “simply to support our Jewish friends and the city of Davis from a dark shadow of hatred that is poisoning the university and now threatening the city.”
So why has Victor Styrsky grown silent about Charlottesville? On his Twitter feed, his last tweet talks about this day in Jewish history, with no mention of the white supremacist rally denouncing Jews. No mention of the comments by Trump that seem to give aid and comfort to anti-Semites and drew praise from David Duke.
His organization, CUFI (Christians United for Israel), still has a thank you to President Trump from May 22 thanking him “for being the first US president to visit Western Wall.” They tweeted, “We stand with the Jewish people,” but they too are silent about the threat.
These people are supposed to be defenders of the Jews and yet they fall silent on the biggest issue facing this nation. All Gail Rubin can do is point to the same moral equivalencies – false equivalencies – that have Trump’s presidency in trouble. And Victor Styrsky and CUFI have fallen silent.
This isn’t about defending Jews. This was about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – nothing more and nothing less. Were any of these folks at the Unity Rally last night?
I believe that the best way to deal with the troubling comments from the Imam is to work to strengthen the interfaith community, and I will once again take the lead of the religious and faith leaders who came forward a few weeks ago – rather than that of out-of-town agitators, who, I repeat, have a clear agenda and it is not to protect Jews from anti-Semitism.
—David M. Greenwald reporting
This is wrong: “This isn’t about defending Jews. This was about the Israeli-Palestinian conflict – nothing more and nothing less. Were any of these folks at the Unity Rally last night?”
What part of “Filth of the Jews” makes you think that this is about politics?
I watched the whole sermon by the imam. Most of it was actually kind of an exhortation to Muslims to be faithful. It was a long discussion of the history of the site, the letter from Saladin, etc. There were many references to the women who have been maintaining vigils at the site in Jerusalem (a lot of commentary about their bravery and where are the men, etc.). Talking about how the faithful will win. It was more of a call to faith than a call to arms.
I am told by an Arabic linguist that “filth of the Jews” is one possible translation, but that the same phrase in reference to what has been done to the site over the years would be ‘defilement by’ or ‘desecration of’ the site by the Jews. In referring to a sacred site, desecration seems like a more literal and accurate translation. Choosing “filth of the Jews” seems like an intentionally provocative translation.
So “filth of the Jews” is at the very least a questionable issue in this whole thing. It was the fast-paced prayer at the end that is at the heart of this controversy.
Davis is a community that prides itself on tolerance and working together. The political and civic leaders came together with the faith leaders and met with the mosque board and the imam and talked through the issues. Nobody has said that everything is perfect and all is forgiven; indeed, the leaders were very clear that the apology itself was a first step. But in this town we believe in talking things through and we don’t believe in sustaining anger for its own sake. Outrage is an appropriate part of the process, but I think there is a broad consensus that it is best to move as quickly as possible toward acceptance and to building the community, not tearing it apart. Some will never agree with that, but they will quickly become the marginalized voices at the fringes of the discussion.
You must be kidding, Don. Are you contending that the fact that much of the sermon was a call for Muslim unity justifies the parts (plural) of the sermon that call for Muslims everywhere to kill all the Jews?
No, Robin. I didn’t say that. Please don’t put words in my mouth.
Let’s not forget that Hamza El Nakhal found the Imam’s words disturbing.
Don – Then why the long paragraph on the Imam’s sermon being primarily a call for Muslim unity and contending that he was merely calling the Jews desecracters, not calling them filthy?
Maria: Then why fall silent on Charlottesville?
Who fell silent on Charlottesville? Certainly not Ms. Rubin. She exlicitly advocated against ALL hatred and racism.
As I wrote in the article… that is the Trump line, is that really where you were wanting to go?
I can’t find any evidence that Trump ever said that. Show your readers proof that Trump made that statement. He never stated that “white nationalists” include “some very fine people.” He stated there were good and bad people on both sides. Not everyone who came out was looking for violence, some people were there to simply protest the taking down of the statue, some were there in support of removing it. Not everyone present was a white nationalist, a Nazi, KKK or a member of ANTIFA. The violence came from both sides.
Watch it for yourselves and then judge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fs5CCE7vBI
http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-lashes-alt-left-charlottesville-fine-people-sides/story?id=49235032
http://www.weeklystandard.com/hayes-where-are-trumps-very-fine-people/article/2009330
Did you watch the above video that I suppled of Trump’s actual words? He specifically says there were good people there that weren’t white nationalists or Neo-Nazis.
Show your readers actual proof that Trump stated “white nationalists include some very fine people” as you wrote.
“You had some very bad people in that group. You also had some very fine people on both sides.”
Once again, that statement isn’t false. Why do you keep going with this when Trump’s actual words are shown in the video above? He specifically states there were good people there that weren’t white nationalists or Neo-Nazis.
Actually, there’s no evidence that there were “good people there that weren’t white nationalists or Neo-Nazis.”
I’m still waiting for David’s proof that Trump stated “white nationalists include some very fine people”. I’ve supplied a video of Trump in his own words stating that there were good people there that weren’t white nationalists or Neo-Nazis.
I think the right thing to do would be for the Vanguard to retract the false statement unless it can prove otherwise.
Crickets….chirp….chirp….
Keith – Let’s accept your interpretation of what Trump said–i.e., that some people demonstrating were not white nationalists; they were there only to protest taking down a statue. The problem is, these were not “good people.” Good people do not protest removal of a statue by marching with white supremacists and Neo-Nazis with swastikas and other Nazi symbols who are chanting such things as “blood and soil” and “Jews will not replace us.” Good people would either leave immediately or join the counter-protestors.
No it’s not my “interpretation”, it’s what Trump actually said.
It’s people on the left who have put their interpretation and spin on it in order to push their agenda.
Ok, I’ll let the Weekly Standard spell it out for you.
http://www.weeklystandard.com/editorial-trump-and-his-very-fine-people/article/2009317
It takes an innocuous comment by Trump to prompt David Duke to praise him.
More spin, deflection. I’m still waiting for you to prove that Trump stated ““white nationalists include some very fine people” . Until then it’s untrue and just Trump hater speech.
Why can’t you admit that you attributed a false statement to Trump that he never said?
I heard him say it, you posted the transcript of where he said it. You think the transcript is okay, I don’t think it is. It was a minor point in my piece and has become a distraction from the core points.
You heard him say “white nationalists include some very fine people” ? Where, when?
I proved he said differently, where’s your proof?
I’ve supplied the actual transcript, where’s your’s of him saying what you say he said?
What he said was: “you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides.”
And what is false about that, not everyone there was a white nationalist, a Neo-Nazi or a member of Antifa. Trump went on to say:
David, are you puposely acting obtuse about this because even though I don’t agree with most of your politics I know you’re very intelligent?
You are quoting a different paragraph…
“TRUMP: Excuse me, excuse me. (inaudible) themselves (inaudible) and you have some very bad people in that group. But you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides. You had people in that group — excuse me, excuse me — I saw the same pictures as you did. You had people in that group that were there to protest the taking down of, to them, a very, very important statue and the renaming of a park from Robert E. Lee to another name.”
Yeah, so? Your article yesterday stated that Trump said ““white nationalists include some very fine people”. Show me where he said that.
Here’s a paragraph from your article:
Show everyone where Trump said white nationalists include “some very fine people.”
Until then I call B.S.
And don’t try to say he “implied” it. That’s also B.S.
The White Nationalists part was not in quotes.
Yes, so you added that part with no proof of that’s what he meant. Thank you for admitting it.
In fact he stated just the opposite as I posted above.
You again quoted a different portion of the transcript from which I was quoting. And between Stephen Miller and Gorka, he has two white nationalists in his administration.
Your position is not only at odds with multiple media reporting, but also right wing publications and conservative politicians. I have not seen the WH issue a correction or clarification on his remarks – have you?
Show me where he said:
Until then this is all just spin from Trump haters and the unfair press.
I showed you where I quoted from. It seems pretty clear what he was saying.
Can you read?
You also have a much worse problem.
He said, “many people in that group other than neo-Nazis and white nationalists. Okay? And the press has treated them absolutely unfairly.”
He added: “You had a lot of people in that group that were there to innocently protest and very legally protest.”
So exactly who the hell are these people who were protesting alongside the KKK and neo-Nazis, he never explains that either.
Yes he did, he stated people were there to simply protest the taking down of the statue. Just because people show up because they don’t believe history should be erased by the taking down of a statue doesn’t mean they’re associated with the KKK , white nationalists or Neo-Nazis.
But there’s no evidence that’s true.
So I think at best you have a clumsy effort to explain comments that he probably realized didn’t come out sounding good. The problem is that the explanation makes no sense on the surface of it. He stepped in the bucket and couldn’t get himself out.
Just so we are crystal clear, it is your position that “good people” and non-white nationalists came to the event organized by Jason Kessler with announced speakers:
Mike Enoch
Augustus Invictus
Jason Kessler
Baked Alaska
Christopher Cantwell
Matt Heimbach
Dr. Michael Hill
Pax Dickinson
Johnny Monoxide
Based Stickman (non-speaking role)
That’s your argument in defense of Trump? Because that’s the only way his comment isn’t complete and total bs.
There’s no evidence that it isn’t true. I think you’re taking a much bigger leap than I saying that everyone who showed up supported the hate groups and weren’t there to simply protest the removal of the statue. It’s you who are squirming trying to defend your false statements without any proof. I’m doen for the day here, you can bring a horse to water but you can’t make them drink especially when they’re filled with so much Trump hate.
You’re defying everything logical here to persist in this defense of Trump.
Let’s recount:
1. He makes the comment that there are many fine people
2. He then explains that he doesn’t mean white supremacists but that there are really fine people that were at this rally. He offers no evidence of this and apparently he was asked to explain and his press people never responded.
3. You buy into that explanation but is there any eveidence that non-white supremacists would be at an event headlined by a who’s who list of known racists/ white nationalists? And if they did go, why are we calling them good people
You are buying into Trump’s bs justification for comment once he got caught. It’s nonsense and you know it.
At this point, I submit on my argument. The readers can decide for themselves.
No, I think what’s nonsense is you totally looking past what Trump actually stated and implying what he meant while putting your own spin on it.
I’m not looking past what he said at all… what he said is completely inaccurate. What he said is that you have many people in that group that were not white nationalists – is there any evidence that that is the case?
Just found this from a spokesperson from the Monument Fund, a group that tries to preserve Confederate Monuments: “Nobody from our group attended the protests or counter-protests. We all stayed away. As everybody should have done.”
That doesn’t prove squat.
It’s a typical Trump statement, I’m not talking about these guys (white nationalists) I’m talking about the good people there (only white nationalists were there). And you buy into it…
Nope, you have no way of proving that. I know you need to have that be true because that’s the only way you can get around your false statement. You need to just man up and admit that you’re wrong.
I did not know that Rabbis and rabbinical students traveled from other parts of the U.S. to join counter protesters at a large white supremacy rally in Charlottesville on Saturday.
“I’ve never been called a k–e in my life,’ says one rabbinical student who came to Charlottesville, Virginia from Boston to join counterprotesters at a large white nationalist rally
read more: ”
Interesting article about Jews in Charlottesville’s protest.
http://www.haaretz.com/us-news/.premium-1.806446
Keith
The problem is that the president has said that there were some very fine people there “on both sides”. How do you see people carrying torches and chanting “Black Lives don’t matter”, “White Sharia now”, “Jews will not replace us” ( never mind that no Jew is attempting to replace them), “blood and soil” and Heil Trump, while making asides about killing their opponents and calling people “n…..s”, “very fine people”. Are those who were not chanting, but are supportive and enabling the chanters “very fine people”? Who are these “very fine people” of whom he speaks ?
Tia… there is an inconvenient fact… there was a very small minority of the ‘counter-protesters’ who came from elsewhere, to Charlottesville, specifically looking forward to a violent confrontation… playing into the hands of the White Supremicists, et al., who were looking for the same thing…
Here’s my guesstimate…. ‘permitted’ protesters: 92% looking to incite confrontation/violence, 8% actually protesting the removal; counter demonstrators”: 95% looking to repudiate the racists, 5% looking to incite violence.
Connect the Dots on CUFI’s silence on Charlottesville and Trump.
So called “Defender of the Jews” CUFI is funded in part by Casino Billionaire Sheldon Adelson.
Sheldon Adelson is both a supporter of Steve Bannon (according to NY Magazine) and a big Trump Contributor.
Ms Rubin is just a pawn in this game.
Davis and the local Imam are just props.
Some people look to Jesus, DG looks to Robb Davis.
“Some people look to Jesus, DG looks to Robb Davis”
And some people look into their own hearts and ask two questions:
1. How would I feel if I were being treated this way ?
2. How does it feel to this individual to be treated this way ?
And then try to act in such as a way as to diminish pain and enhance understanding and peaceful relations. No need to invoke heroes, human or otherwise. We all have this ability.
As an individual who was raised Christian but has subsequently removed myself from the origins story in favor of a humanist approach to life, I am very disturbed by the thought that any of our current religious, ethnic, gender, or gender preference issues will be solved by adherence to any of our major faiths all of which in some way elevate their believers above others whether intentionally or not. I find it deeply disturbing that we cannot simply “judge” if we must on the basis of the character of the individual, but must somehow ascribe or place blame on a collective belief system of others. I suspect that I will, and am prepared for quite a bit of push back for this statement. But sometimes, as a complete religious non partisan, I feel trapped in a never ending war of “you did it”. “No, no your side did it first” between religious groups. As a distinct and not highly respected minority I sometimes find this quite unsettling.
I am so tired of people saying we should be grateful for the Imam’s apology and should all just work towards getting along. Apologies for hurting people’s feelings are meaningless when what the Imam did was call for the murder of an entire race. Should Heather Heyer’s parents be satisfied by an apology? I am still waiting to hear a retraction from the Imam of what he said, and a condemnation from the Islamic Center of Davis of his call for the murder of Jews. When we get those, we can talk about all just trying to get along.
“Should Heather Heyer’s parents be satisfied by an apology? ”
A restorative justice process might be an interesting route to go.
The Imam’s “apology” is not restorative justice. Retracting/condemning his hateful and frightening comments could be a start.
It was the output of such a process.
For the world?
Restorative Justice has been used in many country in aftermath of regime change, even genocide.
South Africa following aparteid.
Eastern Europe follow the fall of Iron curtain
Rwanda
Even…Even..
Germany following the Nazi regime
It is imperfect, but alternative are worse…revenge…?
I must note, the idea of a moral balance sheet where you have to “get even” to “even the score” or “Eye for Eye” is very biblical…..
Yet, most Christians and Jews reject this logic of justice……
Redemption is built into every faith movement…that can be restorative justice
http://Hamas and Black Lives Matter: A marriage made in hell – Israel … http://www.israelnationalnews.com › OpEds
http://Black Lives Matter’s Jewish Problem Is Also a Black Problem – Tablet … http://www.tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/…/black-lives-matters-jewish-problem
http://Black Lives Matter endorses BDS: Israel is ‘apartheid state’ – Haaretz http://www.haaretz.com › Israel News
http://Black Lives Matter’s hypocritical anti-Semitism Smearing Jews undermines the movement’s claim to seek justice http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/aug/23/black-lives-matters-hypocritical-anti-semitism/
BLM’s smearing Jews undermines the movement’s claim to seek justice. The bitter irony is that it has aligned itself with a people—–the Islamists of North Africa and the Middle East—who still enslave Black people. There is a long history of the role of Islam in the Black slave trade. Check out Amnesty International too.
I am sad to see that David and others are still stuck in that echo chamber of moral anemia I wrote about: And stuck in identity politics and stuck in the cross-hairs of pseudo-intersectionality. David, you state above: “I support the work of Black Lives Matter……they are not a hate organization”.
The facts do not lie. They are hate organization. BLM supports BDS, an unadulterated Jew-hating movement to turn the Jewish people into a global pariah. We Jews are less than .2% of the world population with only 14 million total. BLM advocates hate and violence against all police. BLM professes to advocate against systemic racism, and yet they align with Hamas, an internationally designated terrorist group. Go figure! (I invite you to check out Hamas’ Charter that calls for Israel’s destruction and the subjugation of Jews and Christians. {“Israel, by virtue of its being Jewish and of having a Jewish population, defies Islam and the Muslims” Article 28}).
Is is so very sad. When I think of how American Jews sacrificed their lives to defend Blacks during the 1960’s and beyond, and to see BLM turn against another minority group——-well, it is like a huge blister on the heart.
And David, your ridiculous assertion that “Ms. Rubin falls silent on the anti-Semitism in Charlottesville” makes me wonder if you read my article, or at least the title. White Supremacists and Islamic Supremacists are both evil. They have no place in civilized society.
“White Supremacists and Islamic Supremacists are both evil. They have no place in civilized society.”
I had a bigger problem with you throwing in antifa and especially Black Lives Matter. And I had a big problem with your failure to call out the anti-Semitic rhetoric in Charlottesville. Black Lives Matter sees the police as an extension of the white supremacy apparatus – and as I have written previously, they have a strong historically rooted case for that. Police were the enforcement mechanism of Jim Crow.
The case is made out in these two articles…
https://davisvanguard.org/2016/01/mlk-day-message-criminal-justice-system-racially-constructed-from-the-start/
https://davisvanguard.org/2017/06/view-lack-transparency-process-breeds-anger-distrust/
Islamic Supremacists
David
What do you mean by term Islamic Supremacists . Muslims are white and blacks , Pakistani and Palestinians . Iraqi and Iranians etc . What are you talking about saying Islamic Supremacists ? Are you talking about terrorists organisations like ISIS or countries like Saudi Arabia . Is such things as Islamic supremacists . Islam is religion White Supremacists is not religion . What you trying to say ?
Yet Chancellor May is comfortable standing and speaking next to a “Black Lies Matter” banner, a fact which bodes ill for UCD where alt-left and other thugs have ruled the roost for years. As for Robb Davis and John Garamendi, what else can you expect? They play to the “liberal” peanut gallery.
Please do NOT Defame Jesus or Christianity. These Fundamentalist Christian Zionist are a narrow sect.
INSTEAD, I suggest we just follow the money:
Headline in today Israeli paper Haaretz:
Israeli Newspapers Unified in Condemning Trump’s Alt-right Whitewashing – Except for Adelson’s
Condemnation of Trump’s drawing of moral equivalence between Charlottesville neo-Nazis and counter-protesters was front-page news for all Israeli papers, except for Israel Hayom
Haaretz Aug 17, 2017 10:43 AM read more: http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/1.807406
I encourage your readers to review the following article written by a native-Arabic speaking Egyptian.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10791/california-davis-mosque-antisemitism
Imam Who Called for Annihilation of All Jews Is in Fact Routine
by Maher Gabra
August 8, 2017 at 4:00 am
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I can’t help but think if a call to genocide against any other minority group was delivered by a Christian, Catholic, Sikh, Buddhist cleric in our “tolerant” town of Davis, and if that call to arms was to annihilate the gays, the Muslims, the Blacks, etc. ……that there would have been a public outcry and candlelight vigil in the park calling for the ouster of such cleric. Hundreds would have been present to bemoan such rank racism. Our mayor and city council members would have been beating their breasts in angst.
Oh, but a cleric of the Muslim faith calling for extermination of all Jews, oh hum, let’s just be tolerant of his intolerance, and give him a chance to recover from his misguided screed.
The price we pay is simply this: Tolerating intolerance is the price for protecting and encouraging more hate.
Gail
At your opinion why we have different approach to cleric of Muslim faith versa Christian or Catholic faith priest or pastor .? I think you remember the case of Lauren Kirk-Coehlo who vandalized Mosque in Davis and hanged pieces of beacons on the Mosque doorknobs. She was held in jail on 1 million bail and sentenced to 5 years probation . https://davisvanguard.org/2017/01/hundreds-show-central-park-support-davis-islamic-center-wake-hate-crime/
The imam gets a pass. Why? Because Rabbi Cassleman, Rev. Beth Banks (Unitarian) and the priest from St. Martin’s Episcopal Church are devoted to political correctness, and they aren’t the only Useful Idiots among the local clergy — not by a long shot. Once you understand that p/c is their religion, their attitudes and actions fall into place. (I also think that they are afraid of Muslims and their hatred, but hope, by being good little dhimmi, that they will be spared in the long run.)
In my opinion I see these clergy as something like the character of EDMUND in C.S. Lewis’ “The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe”. When Edmund first encounters Jadis the Witch, who has put Narnia under a spell of permanent winter, he knows intuitively that she is evil, but she plies him with hot chocolate and Turkish Delight, and he so allows himself to be taken for a ride (literally, in her sleigh). He ultimately betrays his three siblings and other Narnians.
Edmund repents, but don’t hold your breath for the Useful Idiots among our local clergy.
Why this article is entitled :”The Defenders of the Jews Fall Silent on Charlottesville” ?
What Jews have to do with confederates statues in Virginia or others states ? Why Jews were bused in large numbers from the US other cities to Charlottesville . What point they wanted to make wearing traditional Jewish cloth during the protest which charged with lot heat and hate toward to the decision makers(city council) which decided to remove the 100 years old Gen. Lee statue and rename the park. As I previously quoted Israeli Newspaper one Jewish guy complained that somebody slurred at him with bad name which is the name given to the new immigrants – Jews from the Eastern Europe at the end of 19th Century by the German and Austrian Jews with name like Greenwald or Stein . Jews especially Jewish merchants during the civil war were very supportive to confederates and in 1862 General Ulysses Grant expelled all Jews from Kentucky, Tennessee and Mississippi for helping confederates .
It was David’s attempt at a false equivalency.
Are you kidding me?? In Charlottesville, people were chanting “Jews will not replace us” and “blood and soil,” carrying flags with swastikas, and using the “Heil Hitler” salute. How any Jew could not be concerned about that is beyond me.
They marched before WW II and after WW II in USA since because KKK and Neo -Nazis are legal in USA . Why they legal in contrary to communists I don’t know . Do you know ? If so tell me why . I asked this question before . I observed neo -Nazis presence on the California State Capitol . Beside them armed Militia was present in Charlottseville . Mayor of is a Jew and he is a stupid political provocateur . His behavior cost a lot of trauma and suffering . Busing religious Jews from the other cities as a counter demonstrators was a very bad idea . This why they screamed to them Heil Hitler “blood and soil ” and they carried flags with swastikas because they got permit to demonstrate and they are neo-Nazis not Salvation Army . First Amendment lady . What do you expect from the neo-Nazis and KKK members . ? Jews we are you brothers and we love you very much. Give me a break . Did you just discover America . Do you have chance to read the Supreme Court Case National Socialist Party of America v. Village of Skokie, 432 U.S. 43 (1977) (also known as Smith v. Collin; sometimes referred to as the Skokie Affair). ? Shalom Ms. Millstein