Kristin Koster spoke to the Vanguard from the county jail, although she was not arrested.
“We got here at 10 pm last night, there were 52 arrests and they haven’t processed them all yet.”
There are growing complaints that county and UC Davis officials are holding up the processing.
When asked what the delay was, Ms. Koster said:
“They’re just holding it up. They were processing five at a time for a few hours and then they stopped at 4 or 5 am. All of the people who came, had arrived and were okay.”
She continued:
“There’s been one girl who has been separated. I don’t know if you can officially call it solitary, but she’s been separated from the rest of the group. She was in soiled clothes. She was arrested for allegedly hitting a cop, I don’t know the riot police came in… I don’t know, it’s very very questionable what happened right there. And anyway, she soiled her pants and she was in soiled clothes until literally four hours ago, alone, separated from the whole rest of the group.”
She continued:
“There’s been no representatives from UC Davis, I called them this morning at seven to see where the people were, and the Chancellor’s office had no idea.”
She told the Vanguard that there are attorney’s for the students, however, right now the students are not officially being detained, just processed. At this point, she said, no one has been charged.
“They’re being processed. What they’ve done, they’ve processed so slowly, it’s now taken over twelve hours. They haven’t slept or eaten.”
Julia Ann Easley from UC Davis also spoke with the Vanguard.
She confirmed with the Vanguard that 52 students were arrested but did not have additional information about the student complaints.
“Last night there were about 52 students arrested. The students who were in Mrak Hall for most of the afternoon took a poll among themselves about who was willing and able to be arrested. They ordered a pizza and discussed what the next course of action was. They were told that the building closed to the public at about 5 pm. After 5 pm, Lt. Matt Carmichael of the UC Davis Police Department addressed them and told them that the building was indeed closed and that those who remained would be subject to arrest for trespass.
Some time went by and then the arrests began and there were about 52 arrested. One woman was arrested outside for assault and resisting arrest. The balance of the arrests were of students, protesters, who were inside and they were arrested for trespassing.”
The Vanguard asked Ms. Easley about the slow processing, the fact that the students are still in jail over twelve hours later.
“I can’t speak to the operations of the Yolo County Jail.”
When the Vanguard attempted to talk to the Yolo County Sheriff’s Spokesperson, they directed media inquiries back to the UC Davis Police Department. At this time, the Vanguard has been unable to reach the Office of the Police Chief, we will update if we get additional information.
Jeff Shaw from KDRT also spoke with Student Protester Shannon Harney, live on KDRT radio. You can listen to that interview here: http://kdrt.org/node/2328.
Julia Ann Easley also gave additional information on meetings occurring today between students and the administration.
“We understand that protesters are meeting on the quad right about now. There’s going to be a meeting from noon to 2 pm today. Yesterday when Janet Gong of Student Affairs addressed the protesters who were in Mrak Hall, she offered to arrange a meeting. So that meeting is taking place today, on hand to answer students’ questions will be Vice Chancellor Fred Wood and Kelly Ratliff, Director of the Campus Budget and that meeting is going to taking place in the ARC Forum on Campus.”
—David M. Greenwald reporting
This is outrageous to me that they are dragging their heels. Just an example of how these fascist like entities collude with local authorities to assert their agendas. Sickening. 32% hike????
So to all you republicans that voted for arnold.. he didn’t raise taxes right? tuh, yeah right.
thanks for the post David.
Two issues, actually completely unrelated.
The first, fee increases, yup, we have too many public employee unions asking for way too much money and they won. The public lost. We are now broke. You can thank the unions for forcing an increase in fees.
The second, people being stuck in jail. Duh. You have 52 people get arrested all at once in a community that is used to dealing with 1 or 2 its going to take some time. These people want pretend its the 60s and say that they have “sacrificed” for the cause, but they don’t want the process to keep them from getting to bed on time. Yawn… next.
Hmmm… I said that they were unrelated, but I guess they are the same folks. The same people who protest for unions are the same people who protest against fee increases- cause, effect. They really should just walk around in circles and beat each other over the head with their signs.
Have a nice day 🙂
Davis Enterprise story:
[url]http://www.davisenterprise.com/digital_media.php?month=11&day=20&year=2009&submit=t&page=0[/url]
Cal Aggie story:
[url]http://theaggie.org/article/2009/11/20/nearly-50-arrested-in-mrak-hall-demonstration[/url]
“we have too many public employee unions asking for way too much money and they won.”
I don’t buy it. How much of the state budget is going to employees who are unionized and what is the marginal cost of their contracts (because they won) over what it would have been? I think when you look at actual numbers, you’ll find that there is not as big an impact on the budget by these employees and their specific contracts as you think. I’m tempted again to the Skelton article that broke down how to balance the budget and one of the things he found is that adding together the state employees under direct control of the governor and firing them all, would not have closed the budget deficit.
Maybe better link for the Enterprise story:
[url]http://www.davisenterprise.com/archive_pdfs/2009/20091120/pdfs/A1.pdf[/url]
Gunrock said:
“They really should just walk around in circles and beat each other over the head with their signs”
This is a funny comment. It made me laugh. But really, they don’t need to beat themselves over their heads with thier signs.. We’ll let the highly paid unionized police beat them over the head with billy clubs and tazers.
okay so everyone’s to blame here. The big unions (police, firefighters, teachers, and prison guards) won out. The lower lever lower paid unions such as State employees have to take a furlow and don’t make even close to what the other unions get.
So, the big unions won out, we lost, the republicans won big time. The rich slide on by with little tax increases, and everyone suffers.
So congratulations to those who voted republican and are now being adversely effected by the values you claim to hold dear to your heart.
Next time around, you’ll think hard before you vote for people that care nothing about you. They care about money and keeping it to themselves.
Another point that I was just reminded of. The Enterprise last we applauded the county:
[quote]YOLO COUNTY has been a model of cooperation over the past year. Its employees have voluntarily agreed to furlough days – which mean a pay cut, of course – to stave off as many layoffs as possible. Last summer, county supervisors were able to close a horrendous $24 million budget gap primarily through retirement incentives and furloughs. As a result, only 41 people, rather than the projected 111, lost their jobs. [/quote]
The difference between the county and the city and school district is that the city and school district have their expenses primarily tied up in employees, not the county. Their money goes as much to services. The same with the state. You can fix a lot of fiscal problems in the schools and cities by changing compensation, but not at the state or county level.
[quote]The rich slide on by with little tax increases, and everyone suffers.[/quote] We do have the highest income tax rates of any state in the nation. The “sliding by” is being done more and more by rich people leaving.
Or by rich people’s money leaving, even if they stay.
I guess I am confused by the last comment. State workers are the vast majority of the state budget, all 362,000 employees worth. The fact that their jobs are protected by seniority, unions and precedent makes keeping the budget within balance nearly impossible.
The ones under direct control of the governor ignores the vast majority of these unionized employees.
I’m sick of the rich using the excuse as Rich used, that if they don’t get a tax cut, they will leave. If they pay no money towards the state, yet take take take, then what’s the point of them being here? They aren’t doing anyone favors by hiring a few minimum wage workers, and getting a tax credit from the state for doing it. The rich ARE sliding by and not contributing anything to the state. Just threatening everyone with taking their money somewhere else.
Well I say get the FUxxx out. Don’t do us any favors and LEAVE rich man. I’ll call your bluff and raise you a tax incrase.
HAH
The comment was a question: what is the marginal cost of what you call public employees unions winning?
To mr. Gunrock,
By saying state employees, are you including the firefighters union, the police unions, the prison unions, and the teachers unions?
They take the biggest part of the pie with their huge salaries. You are including them right????
Melanie: the firefighters except for CDF are paid from City funds. Same with local police officers except for CHP and department of corrections, most of the teachers are paid by districts, but districts get a good chunk of money from the state.
Yes but don’t they all get their money from the state in some form or another?
It all comes from one pot, the tax payers…this is the point. He’s talking about the state unions sucking the state dry…but aren’t the other unions doing the same?
tax payers are paying for them right?
Melanie-
David is of course correct, though the same argument holds true. The firefighter unions, local police unions and teacher unions have pretty much set-up our current situation. I am not saying that they are evil or wrong, but the situation is simply unsustainable. They won, the house can’t pay-up.
As to your comment about the rich, I think you should review the staggering percentage of the state budget that is paid for by the “rich”. They don’t need us, but we sure do need them…
“Yes but don’t they all get their money from the state in some form or another? “
No, cities getting their funding sources locally.
[i]I’m sick of the rich using the excuse as Rich used, that if they don’t get a tax cut, they will leave.[/i]
Melanie, it’s a credible threat, because they don’t have to leave truly, they only have to leave on paper. At the most, they can buy a smaller house somewhere else and show up there sometimes. They can still “visit” California “frequently”.
That’s why it’s a shame that taxes are so low on long-held mansions. California mansions can’t declare residency in Nevada.
[i]They don’t need us, but we sure do need them…[/i]
They don’t need us? How rich would they be without us?
[quote]I’m sick of the rich using the excuse as Rich used, that if they don’t get a tax cut, they will leave.[/quote]I never said anything about a tax cut. Try reading my comment correctly before you misquote it. [quote] If they pay no money towards the state, yet take take take, then what’s the point of them being here? [/quote] Your entire premise is wrong. The rich pay almost all of the personal income tax in California. That is a problem when they make a lower income. [quote] They aren’t doing anyone favors by hiring a few minimum wage workers, and getting a tax credit from the state for doing it. [/quote] Workers who make a low wage only when they are not productive. If they generate more money, they will make a higher wage. Your animus toward the payer is misguided. The fault lies with the relative productivity of some workers (over the long run). [quote] The rich ARE sliding by and not contributing anything to the state. [/quote] It depends on how a rich person is making his money. If someone gets rich by being productive, by selling a product or service which is demanded by the free market, then your comment is total nonsense. But if someone is enriching himself fraudulently, then he perhaps is contributing nothing (or close to it). [quote] Just threatening everyone with taking their money somewhere else. [/quote] The [i]threat[/i] is less relevant than the reality. For large numbers of high income earners, it is not hard to move their income out of state (or out of the country). They don’t have to threaten anyone to do that. They just move their money and the result is a tax loss to the state coffers. As such, it is not wise to have higher income tax rates on the rich than all other states have. It’s self-defeating. [quote] Well I say get the FUxxx out. Don’t do us any favors and LEAVE rich man. I’ll call your bluff and raise you a tax incrase. HAH [/quote] The path to poverty is paved with populist pabulum.
Correction: “Workers who make a low wage [b]do so[/b] only when they are not productive.”
Heh… Greg, I don’t think you understand the rich very well. Unless you are talking about your local marginally well-to-do business owner, they don’t need you at any level. As a customer, you don’t know have a clue if your dollars are making some marginal manager cover paychecks, some faceless corporation make a dividend for little old ladies or some balding guy with a monocle and bags of money.
Most money is highly liquid, highly mobile and not terribly subject to the whims of markets. California has nice weather, but so does Florida, and it has better tax laws. Piss off the rich, and the poor can vote themselves bread and circuses till their faces turn blue, but there will be on one to pay for it…
“As a customer, you don’t know have a clue if your dollars are making some marginal manager cover paychecks, some faceless corporation make a dividend for little old ladies or some balding guy with a monocle and bags of money.”
Sure you have a clue. Buy locally. Get to know your local business owners. Where you shop makes a difference.
Wealth does not happen where you shop… sorry, but that is just making a living selling stuff.
Again, people don’t really understand who “they” are and its unlikely that unless they take the time that they ever will.
You really have nothing to do with the rich, your actions simply don’t affect them. Shop where you wish…
The only way you can cause a reaction is through policy. Push up taxes and they go away and you are left with vast social programs brimming with good intentions, and no one willing to pay for them. Leave taxes low (like Florida and Texas) and you see a boom in revenue, jobs and commerce.
The rich really are like fireflies. Leave them alone and they will swarm and bring light. Chase them around and their lights wink out and they go somewhere else… You can sit in the dark holding your jar.
[i]Greg, I don’t think you understand the rich very well.[/i]
I’m not going to claim to be some big authority on the subject, but I have met billionaires and centimillionaires and other such people, and their friends. It’s certainly true that a lot of their money is highly mobile [b]now[/b], but my point is about where it came from. None of the super-rich that I have made or heard of conjured money out of thin air. None of them did all of the work or even more than an infinitesimal fraction of the work by themselves. They got rich by being in the right place at the right time — and sure that, takes talent and hard work, but not on the scale of the amount of money that they made. They wouldn’t be rich without the greater engine of the American economy, which is to say, without the rest of us.
[i]California has nice weather, but so does Florida, and it has better tax laws.[/i]
No, for people who are so rich that they don’t know how many houses they own, and whose “car” is a private jet, the weather of their state of residence doesn’t matter. They can spend as much time as they want in sunny states, and “live” in North Dakota. They can pick the best tax laws out of the 50 states, and still own other houses wherever they feel like it. Weather has nothing to do with it.
[i]Leave taxes low (like Florida and Texas) and you see a boom in revenue, jobs and commerce.[/i]
Or hey, if you’re Anguilla, a boom in revenue and who cares about the other two.