That’s kind of the bottom line. When you have a low profile race, and you are likely entering as the underdog, you need to radically change the dynamics and neither Bob Schelen nor Joe Spector were able to do this.
Some suggested that this was some sort of repudiation of the progressives, I do not see it that way. I think the city council is the venue where progressives assert themselves. A repudiation of progressives would be a continuation of the current council. That is a story to be written in June of 2008 not November of 2007.
An interesting observation came from Davis Columnist Bob Dunning last night:
“BY THE NUMBERS … no matter what the above percentages say about the candidates and their respective levels of support, a more accurate picture forms when you run the raw numbers that show Lovenburg received 6,806 votes of the 11,518 cast, which comes out to a mandate-like 59.1 percent … she was the only one of the four to be mentioned on more than half the ballots …”
That is a good way of looking at it that some times gets overlooked when you have two votes in a given election. On the other hand you have to wonder what her mandate is (granted he said mandate-like). I am not certain I really know what she was elected to do in terms that we generally think of as a mandate.
Susan Lovenburg did send us a statement after her victory:
“I’m pleased to have experienced broad-based support throughout the Davis community. I look forward to serving with Richard Harris, and with continuing Trustees Sheila Allen, Gina Daleiden, and Tim Taylor.
I acknowledge the efforts of Bob Schelen and Joe Spector during the campaign, and thank them for their willingness to serve our District.
I’d also like to thank Interim Superintendent Richard Whitmore for his efforts on our behalf, and enthusiastically welcome new superintendent, James Hammond. Together with a community that actively supports children and their education, we will meet the challenges that lie ahead.”
My hope is in the coming weeks to do full stories on Susan Lovenburg, Richard Harris, and James Hammond, the new superintendent who was sworn in last night.
—Doug Paul Davis reporting
Vanguard readers-The election is indeed behind us, and the new Board of Education will be facing some major challenges. The Valley Oak Charter proposal may or may not be approved on Mr. Provenza’s watch, the DTA contract needs attention, and the “7-11” surplus property report will need a thorough airing. Those in the progressive community who neglected to engage in this campaign will be shocked how much this new board will have to say about the disposition of school district property. Do you think the closing of Valley Oak school was supported by development interests in this town? How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields? The playground at Valley Oak School would make some nice “infill” locations as well. Wake up and smell the bulldozers Davisites!
Vanguard readers-The election is indeed behind us, and the new Board of Education will be facing some major challenges. The Valley Oak Charter proposal may or may not be approved on Mr. Provenza’s watch, the DTA contract needs attention, and the “7-11” surplus property report will need a thorough airing. Those in the progressive community who neglected to engage in this campaign will be shocked how much this new board will have to say about the disposition of school district property. Do you think the closing of Valley Oak school was supported by development interests in this town? How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields? The playground at Valley Oak School would make some nice “infill” locations as well. Wake up and smell the bulldozers Davisites!
Vanguard readers-The election is indeed behind us, and the new Board of Education will be facing some major challenges. The Valley Oak Charter proposal may or may not be approved on Mr. Provenza’s watch, the DTA contract needs attention, and the “7-11” surplus property report will need a thorough airing. Those in the progressive community who neglected to engage in this campaign will be shocked how much this new board will have to say about the disposition of school district property. Do you think the closing of Valley Oak school was supported by development interests in this town? How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields? The playground at Valley Oak School would make some nice “infill” locations as well. Wake up and smell the bulldozers Davisites!
Vanguard readers-The election is indeed behind us, and the new Board of Education will be facing some major challenges. The Valley Oak Charter proposal may or may not be approved on Mr. Provenza’s watch, the DTA contract needs attention, and the “7-11” surplus property report will need a thorough airing. Those in the progressive community who neglected to engage in this campaign will be shocked how much this new board will have to say about the disposition of school district property. Do you think the closing of Valley Oak school was supported by development interests in this town? How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields? The playground at Valley Oak School would make some nice “infill” locations as well. Wake up and smell the bulldozers Davisites!
Of the candidates, Lovenberg and Harris were the LEAST favorable towards teachers and Valley Oak. Expect contract negotiations between the district and the teachers to head ‘south’ really fast. Teachers were screwed when the district asked them to ‘do it for the team’, get behind Measure Q, and then come back to the discussion table. Teachers did their part, did the right thing, and then the district said “we’re not budging” from their lousy offer of 1 percent (out of a state-given 4 percent COLA).
I smell a strike.
Of the candidates, Lovenberg and Harris were the LEAST favorable towards teachers and Valley Oak. Expect contract negotiations between the district and the teachers to head ‘south’ really fast. Teachers were screwed when the district asked them to ‘do it for the team’, get behind Measure Q, and then come back to the discussion table. Teachers did their part, did the right thing, and then the district said “we’re not budging” from their lousy offer of 1 percent (out of a state-given 4 percent COLA).
I smell a strike.
Of the candidates, Lovenberg and Harris were the LEAST favorable towards teachers and Valley Oak. Expect contract negotiations between the district and the teachers to head ‘south’ really fast. Teachers were screwed when the district asked them to ‘do it for the team’, get behind Measure Q, and then come back to the discussion table. Teachers did their part, did the right thing, and then the district said “we’re not budging” from their lousy offer of 1 percent (out of a state-given 4 percent COLA).
I smell a strike.
Of the candidates, Lovenberg and Harris were the LEAST favorable towards teachers and Valley Oak. Expect contract negotiations between the district and the teachers to head ‘south’ really fast. Teachers were screwed when the district asked them to ‘do it for the team’, get behind Measure Q, and then come back to the discussion table. Teachers did their part, did the right thing, and then the district said “we’re not budging” from their lousy offer of 1 percent (out of a state-given 4 percent COLA).
I smell a strike.
How convenient that the district gets Measure Q passed and THEN tells the teachers that their offer is final. They can pay Murphy a huge salary every month for sitting at home, give the new superintendent something like a 30 percent increase in salary, but not offer anything more for teachers.
Last time I checked, the teachers are the ones who teach the students. Come to think of it, why do we even need a superintendent? Actually, we currently pay for two…
How convenient that the district gets Measure Q passed and THEN tells the teachers that their offer is final. They can pay Murphy a huge salary every month for sitting at home, give the new superintendent something like a 30 percent increase in salary, but not offer anything more for teachers.
Last time I checked, the teachers are the ones who teach the students. Come to think of it, why do we even need a superintendent? Actually, we currently pay for two…
How convenient that the district gets Measure Q passed and THEN tells the teachers that their offer is final. They can pay Murphy a huge salary every month for sitting at home, give the new superintendent something like a 30 percent increase in salary, but not offer anything more for teachers.
Last time I checked, the teachers are the ones who teach the students. Come to think of it, why do we even need a superintendent? Actually, we currently pay for two…
How convenient that the district gets Measure Q passed and THEN tells the teachers that their offer is final. They can pay Murphy a huge salary every month for sitting at home, give the new superintendent something like a 30 percent increase in salary, but not offer anything more for teachers.
Last time I checked, the teachers are the ones who teach the students. Come to think of it, why do we even need a superintendent? Actually, we currently pay for two…
Susan Lovenburg was the only mom, a school volunteer and stayed away from the hot button issues. Harris’ campaign theme, on the other hand, recognized that the majority of Davis voters on Nov.6 had come to the conclusion that sacrificing VO Elementary and the current VO Charter School plan was in the “best interest” of THEIR children. It was THAT simple.
Susan Lovenburg was the only mom, a school volunteer and stayed away from the hot button issues. Harris’ campaign theme, on the other hand, recognized that the majority of Davis voters on Nov.6 had come to the conclusion that sacrificing VO Elementary and the current VO Charter School plan was in the “best interest” of THEIR children. It was THAT simple.
Susan Lovenburg was the only mom, a school volunteer and stayed away from the hot button issues. Harris’ campaign theme, on the other hand, recognized that the majority of Davis voters on Nov.6 had come to the conclusion that sacrificing VO Elementary and the current VO Charter School plan was in the “best interest” of THEIR children. It was THAT simple.
Susan Lovenburg was the only mom, a school volunteer and stayed away from the hot button issues. Harris’ campaign theme, on the other hand, recognized that the majority of Davis voters on Nov.6 had come to the conclusion that sacrificing VO Elementary and the current VO Charter School plan was in the “best interest” of THEIR children. It was THAT simple.
This election (as zzzz as it was) does show:
1. Money and fundraising wins.
2. PTA volunteering is a good way to build up your name
3. Saying that you are for a “GREEN” school doesn’t hurt
4. Envelope stuffing at DHS won’t help your campaign, as well as not saying about it or distancing yourself from it immediately
I had a hard time deciding who to vote for, not because I liked one more than the other, but because no one really excited me. All of Lovenberg’s talk about watching the district’s money tells me that she is going to be very tight-fisted about budgetary issues (which has its pros and cons). Harris strikes me along similar lines. At the same time, I found him offputting with his constant “Green Schools Initiative” which he seemed to drop into every other statement. Schelen didn’t really register much of a blip other than Valley Oak issues, and some questioning as to whether his true interests were school board or for higher office down the road (like Harris for that matter, with his obsence amount of outside money). And Spector never presented much of a campaign and really only became more defined after the DHS Don Winters fiasco.
Again, my concern at the moment is the DTA contract negotiations. We are friends with several teachers and have heard about the situation from their perspective. The district salary and benefits package is so lacking. Our friends manage because their respective spouses with superior health care benefits and salaries. But what about teachers who depend on the district package? Too much of their paycheck never makes it to them. While Schelen and Spector seemed the most sympathetic to DTA, Lovenberg and Harris seemed the most indifferent, if not quietly hostile (in Harris’ case from my POV).
We want our schools to continue to be successful? Measure Q is the right step. Now let us make sure that we fairly compensate our staff. We sure do pay the administrators a lot. But in my opinion, they have the LEAST direct impact on the students. I do not understand why more people do not raise more of a stink about this unfairness. 1 percent salary offer???? Out of a 4 percent COLA? And the DTA only asked for 2 percent, but the district won’t budge from 1 percent?
My friends are saying that the teachers are starting to rumble about a strike. If they do, I stand behind them.
This election (as zzzz as it was) does show:
1. Money and fundraising wins.
2. PTA volunteering is a good way to build up your name
3. Saying that you are for a “GREEN” school doesn’t hurt
4. Envelope stuffing at DHS won’t help your campaign, as well as not saying about it or distancing yourself from it immediately
I had a hard time deciding who to vote for, not because I liked one more than the other, but because no one really excited me. All of Lovenberg’s talk about watching the district’s money tells me that she is going to be very tight-fisted about budgetary issues (which has its pros and cons). Harris strikes me along similar lines. At the same time, I found him offputting with his constant “Green Schools Initiative” which he seemed to drop into every other statement. Schelen didn’t really register much of a blip other than Valley Oak issues, and some questioning as to whether his true interests were school board or for higher office down the road (like Harris for that matter, with his obsence amount of outside money). And Spector never presented much of a campaign and really only became more defined after the DHS Don Winters fiasco.
Again, my concern at the moment is the DTA contract negotiations. We are friends with several teachers and have heard about the situation from their perspective. The district salary and benefits package is so lacking. Our friends manage because their respective spouses with superior health care benefits and salaries. But what about teachers who depend on the district package? Too much of their paycheck never makes it to them. While Schelen and Spector seemed the most sympathetic to DTA, Lovenberg and Harris seemed the most indifferent, if not quietly hostile (in Harris’ case from my POV).
We want our schools to continue to be successful? Measure Q is the right step. Now let us make sure that we fairly compensate our staff. We sure do pay the administrators a lot. But in my opinion, they have the LEAST direct impact on the students. I do not understand why more people do not raise more of a stink about this unfairness. 1 percent salary offer???? Out of a 4 percent COLA? And the DTA only asked for 2 percent, but the district won’t budge from 1 percent?
My friends are saying that the teachers are starting to rumble about a strike. If they do, I stand behind them.
This election (as zzzz as it was) does show:
1. Money and fundraising wins.
2. PTA volunteering is a good way to build up your name
3. Saying that you are for a “GREEN” school doesn’t hurt
4. Envelope stuffing at DHS won’t help your campaign, as well as not saying about it or distancing yourself from it immediately
I had a hard time deciding who to vote for, not because I liked one more than the other, but because no one really excited me. All of Lovenberg’s talk about watching the district’s money tells me that she is going to be very tight-fisted about budgetary issues (which has its pros and cons). Harris strikes me along similar lines. At the same time, I found him offputting with his constant “Green Schools Initiative” which he seemed to drop into every other statement. Schelen didn’t really register much of a blip other than Valley Oak issues, and some questioning as to whether his true interests were school board or for higher office down the road (like Harris for that matter, with his obsence amount of outside money). And Spector never presented much of a campaign and really only became more defined after the DHS Don Winters fiasco.
Again, my concern at the moment is the DTA contract negotiations. We are friends with several teachers and have heard about the situation from their perspective. The district salary and benefits package is so lacking. Our friends manage because their respective spouses with superior health care benefits and salaries. But what about teachers who depend on the district package? Too much of their paycheck never makes it to them. While Schelen and Spector seemed the most sympathetic to DTA, Lovenberg and Harris seemed the most indifferent, if not quietly hostile (in Harris’ case from my POV).
We want our schools to continue to be successful? Measure Q is the right step. Now let us make sure that we fairly compensate our staff. We sure do pay the administrators a lot. But in my opinion, they have the LEAST direct impact on the students. I do not understand why more people do not raise more of a stink about this unfairness. 1 percent salary offer???? Out of a 4 percent COLA? And the DTA only asked for 2 percent, but the district won’t budge from 1 percent?
My friends are saying that the teachers are starting to rumble about a strike. If they do, I stand behind them.
This election (as zzzz as it was) does show:
1. Money and fundraising wins.
2. PTA volunteering is a good way to build up your name
3. Saying that you are for a “GREEN” school doesn’t hurt
4. Envelope stuffing at DHS won’t help your campaign, as well as not saying about it or distancing yourself from it immediately
I had a hard time deciding who to vote for, not because I liked one more than the other, but because no one really excited me. All of Lovenberg’s talk about watching the district’s money tells me that she is going to be very tight-fisted about budgetary issues (which has its pros and cons). Harris strikes me along similar lines. At the same time, I found him offputting with his constant “Green Schools Initiative” which he seemed to drop into every other statement. Schelen didn’t really register much of a blip other than Valley Oak issues, and some questioning as to whether his true interests were school board or for higher office down the road (like Harris for that matter, with his obsence amount of outside money). And Spector never presented much of a campaign and really only became more defined after the DHS Don Winters fiasco.
Again, my concern at the moment is the DTA contract negotiations. We are friends with several teachers and have heard about the situation from their perspective. The district salary and benefits package is so lacking. Our friends manage because their respective spouses with superior health care benefits and salaries. But what about teachers who depend on the district package? Too much of their paycheck never makes it to them. While Schelen and Spector seemed the most sympathetic to DTA, Lovenberg and Harris seemed the most indifferent, if not quietly hostile (in Harris’ case from my POV).
We want our schools to continue to be successful? Measure Q is the right step. Now let us make sure that we fairly compensate our staff. We sure do pay the administrators a lot. But in my opinion, they have the LEAST direct impact on the students. I do not understand why more people do not raise more of a stink about this unfairness. 1 percent salary offer???? Out of a 4 percent COLA? And the DTA only asked for 2 percent, but the district won’t budge from 1 percent?
My friends are saying that the teachers are starting to rumble about a strike. If they do, I stand behind them.
If the teachers decide to strike the community should stand behind them.
The bottom line is that the Davis schools would not be as good as they are if it were not for the teachers.
The problems in the past where there have been poor decisions made about the allocation of money all stem from poor leadership in the administration. The teachers had nothing to do with this and yet they keep paying the administrators more. Until we demand more, this will continue and the schools will suffer.
How about starting a community petition for giving the teachers the 1% they deserve? Or, a community petition supporting our teachers?
If the teachers decide to strike the community should stand behind them.
The bottom line is that the Davis schools would not be as good as they are if it were not for the teachers.
The problems in the past where there have been poor decisions made about the allocation of money all stem from poor leadership in the administration. The teachers had nothing to do with this and yet they keep paying the administrators more. Until we demand more, this will continue and the schools will suffer.
How about starting a community petition for giving the teachers the 1% they deserve? Or, a community petition supporting our teachers?
If the teachers decide to strike the community should stand behind them.
The bottom line is that the Davis schools would not be as good as they are if it were not for the teachers.
The problems in the past where there have been poor decisions made about the allocation of money all stem from poor leadership in the administration. The teachers had nothing to do with this and yet they keep paying the administrators more. Until we demand more, this will continue and the schools will suffer.
How about starting a community petition for giving the teachers the 1% they deserve? Or, a community petition supporting our teachers?
If the teachers decide to strike the community should stand behind them.
The bottom line is that the Davis schools would not be as good as they are if it were not for the teachers.
The problems in the past where there have been poor decisions made about the allocation of money all stem from poor leadership in the administration. The teachers had nothing to do with this and yet they keep paying the administrators more. Until we demand more, this will continue and the schools will suffer.
How about starting a community petition for giving the teachers the 1% they deserve? Or, a community petition supporting our teachers?
you only get a mandate when you run on something. which means we have mandates for “more of the same/don’t rock the boat” (lovenburg) and the green school initiative (harris).
that’s about all the substance that i could wring out of those two campaigns’ flyers, websites, etc.
if they stiff the teachers, the teachers should strike and the community should support them.
odd that neither schelen nor spector bothered to run on getting the teachers a better deal.
you only get a mandate when you run on something. which means we have mandates for “more of the same/don’t rock the boat” (lovenburg) and the green school initiative (harris).
that’s about all the substance that i could wring out of those two campaigns’ flyers, websites, etc.
if they stiff the teachers, the teachers should strike and the community should support them.
odd that neither schelen nor spector bothered to run on getting the teachers a better deal.
you only get a mandate when you run on something. which means we have mandates for “more of the same/don’t rock the boat” (lovenburg) and the green school initiative (harris).
that’s about all the substance that i could wring out of those two campaigns’ flyers, websites, etc.
if they stiff the teachers, the teachers should strike and the community should support them.
odd that neither schelen nor spector bothered to run on getting the teachers a better deal.
you only get a mandate when you run on something. which means we have mandates for “more of the same/don’t rock the boat” (lovenburg) and the green school initiative (harris).
that’s about all the substance that i could wring out of those two campaigns’ flyers, websites, etc.
if they stiff the teachers, the teachers should strike and the community should support them.
odd that neither schelen nor spector bothered to run on getting the teachers a better deal.
Honest question. For those who support the 4% request, where is the money going to come from to give the teachers a raise?
I support the goal, but wonder how the district will find the funds in the midst of declining enrollment (not to mention losing ADA funds to the VO Charter).
People throw around the superintendent issue, but David Murphy’s salary (which I heard they stopped paying in July, but I don’t know if that’s true) – and even Hammond’s – would surely not cover a 4% raise for all teachers in the District.
According to the District website there are 483 certificated teachers. Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate), times 4 percent, that’s $966,000.
Honest question. For those who support the 4% request, where is the money going to come from to give the teachers a raise?
I support the goal, but wonder how the district will find the funds in the midst of declining enrollment (not to mention losing ADA funds to the VO Charter).
People throw around the superintendent issue, but David Murphy’s salary (which I heard they stopped paying in July, but I don’t know if that’s true) – and even Hammond’s – would surely not cover a 4% raise for all teachers in the District.
According to the District website there are 483 certificated teachers. Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate), times 4 percent, that’s $966,000.
Honest question. For those who support the 4% request, where is the money going to come from to give the teachers a raise?
I support the goal, but wonder how the district will find the funds in the midst of declining enrollment (not to mention losing ADA funds to the VO Charter).
People throw around the superintendent issue, but David Murphy’s salary (which I heard they stopped paying in July, but I don’t know if that’s true) – and even Hammond’s – would surely not cover a 4% raise for all teachers in the District.
According to the District website there are 483 certificated teachers. Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate), times 4 percent, that’s $966,000.
Honest question. For those who support the 4% request, where is the money going to come from to give the teachers a raise?
I support the goal, but wonder how the district will find the funds in the midst of declining enrollment (not to mention losing ADA funds to the VO Charter).
People throw around the superintendent issue, but David Murphy’s salary (which I heard they stopped paying in July, but I don’t know if that’s true) – and even Hammond’s – would surely not cover a 4% raise for all teachers in the District.
According to the District website there are 483 certificated teachers. Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate), times 4 percent, that’s $966,000.
I think you raise a good point about the Superintendent salary, but I view this as a leader of a country driving around in luxury while their people are starving. It just doesn’t look good to have money for raises for superintendents but not money for teachers.
I think you raise a good point about the Superintendent salary, but I view this as a leader of a country driving around in luxury while their people are starving. It just doesn’t look good to have money for raises for superintendents but not money for teachers.
I think you raise a good point about the Superintendent salary, but I view this as a leader of a country driving around in luxury while their people are starving. It just doesn’t look good to have money for raises for superintendents but not money for teachers.
I think you raise a good point about the Superintendent salary, but I view this as a leader of a country driving around in luxury while their people are starving. It just doesn’t look good to have money for raises for superintendents but not money for teachers.
Agreed, but given the current budget situation, I’d be curious to hear ideas about what should change or be cut to fund the proposed 4% increase. It’s easy to say “Give them the money” – the hard part is figuring out what will be cut to get there.
Agreed, but given the current budget situation, I’d be curious to hear ideas about what should change or be cut to fund the proposed 4% increase. It’s easy to say “Give them the money” – the hard part is figuring out what will be cut to get there.
Agreed, but given the current budget situation, I’d be curious to hear ideas about what should change or be cut to fund the proposed 4% increase. It’s easy to say “Give them the money” – the hard part is figuring out what will be cut to get there.
Agreed, but given the current budget situation, I’d be curious to hear ideas about what should change or be cut to fund the proposed 4% increase. It’s easy to say “Give them the money” – the hard part is figuring out what will be cut to get there.
Election watcher – you have articulated my suspicions since it was announced that Valley Oak was to be closed.
Election watcher – you have articulated my suspicions since it was announced that Valley Oak was to be closed.
Election watcher – you have articulated my suspicions since it was announced that Valley Oak was to be closed.
Election watcher – you have articulated my suspicions since it was announced that Valley Oak was to be closed.
Why has no one yet remarked that Lovenburg may have ambitions for higher office?
If it has been mentioned, I have not seen it.
Why has no one yet remarked that Lovenburg may have ambitions for higher office?
If it has been mentioned, I have not seen it.
Why has no one yet remarked that Lovenburg may have ambitions for higher office?
If it has been mentioned, I have not seen it.
Why has no one yet remarked that Lovenburg may have ambitions for higher office?
If it has been mentioned, I have not seen it.
At least from my conversations with Susan, I think that she does not have any ambitions for higher office or any other office.
At least from my conversations with Susan, I think that she does not have any ambitions for higher office or any other office.
At least from my conversations with Susan, I think that she does not have any ambitions for higher office or any other office.
At least from my conversations with Susan, I think that she does not have any ambitions for higher office or any other office.
Election Watcher: “How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields?”
If high rise means three stories, then you might be right. But would three story condos along 5th Street, facing Central Park, be such a terrible thing? Because of parking requirements and other considerations, I doubt a builder could go above three stories, unless he built a large parking garage, too.
Is it now anti-Progressive to believe in densification and infill on the site of the old Emerson Junior High School?
My preference for the 5th Street side of that property would be off-campus dormitories, even taller and denser and without any parking. That location is so close to UCD, why not provide student apartments (for upper classmen and grad students) within walking distance of the campus? Many older students like to patronize downtown restaurants, cafes and other businesses. If they lived at 5th & B, they could easily walk downtown, as well.
For the 6th Street end of old Emerson, I think single family housing, along the scale of existing Old North homes, would be most appropriate.
I guess “Election Watcher” speaks for the self-style Progressives of Davis in thinking that infill housing on that block is a horrible idea.
Anon 9:57: “Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate”
At Valley Oak, for the 2006-07 school year, the average teacher cost the District $81,627.50. That includes salary, STRS (pension), Health & Welfare, Medicare, State Unemployment, Worker’s Comp and something called Section 125. I would guess at the other schools in the district, the cost was similar.
Election Watcher: “How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields?”
If high rise means three stories, then you might be right. But would three story condos along 5th Street, facing Central Park, be such a terrible thing? Because of parking requirements and other considerations, I doubt a builder could go above three stories, unless he built a large parking garage, too.
Is it now anti-Progressive to believe in densification and infill on the site of the old Emerson Junior High School?
My preference for the 5th Street side of that property would be off-campus dormitories, even taller and denser and without any parking. That location is so close to UCD, why not provide student apartments (for upper classmen and grad students) within walking distance of the campus? Many older students like to patronize downtown restaurants, cafes and other businesses. If they lived at 5th & B, they could easily walk downtown, as well.
For the 6th Street end of old Emerson, I think single family housing, along the scale of existing Old North homes, would be most appropriate.
I guess “Election Watcher” speaks for the self-style Progressives of Davis in thinking that infill housing on that block is a horrible idea.
Anon 9:57: “Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate”
At Valley Oak, for the 2006-07 school year, the average teacher cost the District $81,627.50. That includes salary, STRS (pension), Health & Welfare, Medicare, State Unemployment, Worker’s Comp and something called Section 125. I would guess at the other schools in the district, the cost was similar.
Election Watcher: “How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields?”
If high rise means three stories, then you might be right. But would three story condos along 5th Street, facing Central Park, be such a terrible thing? Because of parking requirements and other considerations, I doubt a builder could go above three stories, unless he built a large parking garage, too.
Is it now anti-Progressive to believe in densification and infill on the site of the old Emerson Junior High School?
My preference for the 5th Street side of that property would be off-campus dormitories, even taller and denser and without any parking. That location is so close to UCD, why not provide student apartments (for upper classmen and grad students) within walking distance of the campus? Many older students like to patronize downtown restaurants, cafes and other businesses. If they lived at 5th & B, they could easily walk downtown, as well.
For the 6th Street end of old Emerson, I think single family housing, along the scale of existing Old North homes, would be most appropriate.
I guess “Election Watcher” speaks for the self-style Progressives of Davis in thinking that infill housing on that block is a horrible idea.
Anon 9:57: “Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate”
At Valley Oak, for the 2006-07 school year, the average teacher cost the District $81,627.50. That includes salary, STRS (pension), Health & Welfare, Medicare, State Unemployment, Worker’s Comp and something called Section 125. I would guess at the other schools in the district, the cost was similar.
Election Watcher: “How do you say high rise condos on the S.B. Anthony city block? How do you say housing projects on Nuggett fields?”
If high rise means three stories, then you might be right. But would three story condos along 5th Street, facing Central Park, be such a terrible thing? Because of parking requirements and other considerations, I doubt a builder could go above three stories, unless he built a large parking garage, too.
Is it now anti-Progressive to believe in densification and infill on the site of the old Emerson Junior High School?
My preference for the 5th Street side of that property would be off-campus dormitories, even taller and denser and without any parking. That location is so close to UCD, why not provide student apartments (for upper classmen and grad students) within walking distance of the campus? Many older students like to patronize downtown restaurants, cafes and other businesses. If they lived at 5th & B, they could easily walk downtown, as well.
For the 6th Street end of old Emerson, I think single family housing, along the scale of existing Old North homes, would be most appropriate.
I guess “Election Watcher” speaks for the self-style Progressives of Davis in thinking that infill housing on that block is a horrible idea.
Anon 9:57: “Let’s say they average $50,000 each (the VO Charter is putting it at $66,000 average for their teachers so $50k is probably a conservative estimate”
At Valley Oak, for the 2006-07 school year, the average teacher cost the District $81,627.50. That includes salary, STRS (pension), Health & Welfare, Medicare, State Unemployment, Worker’s Comp and something called Section 125. I would guess at the other schools in the district, the cost was similar.
Who cares if someone has ambitions for higher office?
Are you saying that people should not aspire to serve their community at levels beyond the school board or city council?
Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?
Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?
This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT is to look at who is running for school board and council.
The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election and now we have a Republican disguised as a “Decline to State” Saylorite on the school board and we also have Richard Harris who is a conservative Democrat.
You get what you vote for. If you want change then do something about it.
Wu Ming was correct in saying that it was a mandate for the status quo.
It’s a sad day in the People’s Republic of Davis.
Who cares if someone has ambitions for higher office?
Are you saying that people should not aspire to serve their community at levels beyond the school board or city council?
Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?
Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?
This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT is to look at who is running for school board and council.
The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election and now we have a Republican disguised as a “Decline to State” Saylorite on the school board and we also have Richard Harris who is a conservative Democrat.
You get what you vote for. If you want change then do something about it.
Wu Ming was correct in saying that it was a mandate for the status quo.
It’s a sad day in the People’s Republic of Davis.
Who cares if someone has ambitions for higher office?
Are you saying that people should not aspire to serve their community at levels beyond the school board or city council?
Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?
Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?
This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT is to look at who is running for school board and council.
The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election and now we have a Republican disguised as a “Decline to State” Saylorite on the school board and we also have Richard Harris who is a conservative Democrat.
You get what you vote for. If you want change then do something about it.
Wu Ming was correct in saying that it was a mandate for the status quo.
It’s a sad day in the People’s Republic of Davis.
Who cares if someone has ambitions for higher office?
Are you saying that people should not aspire to serve their community at levels beyond the school board or city council?
Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?
Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?
This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.
WHAT IS IMPORTANT is to look at who is running for school board and council.
The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election and now we have a Republican disguised as a “Decline to State” Saylorite on the school board and we also have Richard Harris who is a conservative Democrat.
You get what you vote for. If you want change then do something about it.
Wu Ming was correct in saying that it was a mandate for the status quo.
It’s a sad day in the People’s Republic of Davis.
“Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?”
When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?
“Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?”
Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?
“This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.”
Lois Wolk is a conservative?
“The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election.”
Democrats and Republicans turned out in equal proportion to the registration numbers. Declined to states barely showed up, Tuesday.
“Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?”
When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?
“Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?”
Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?
“This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.”
Lois Wolk is a conservative?
“The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election.”
Democrats and Republicans turned out in equal proportion to the registration numbers. Declined to states barely showed up, Tuesday.
“Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?”
When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?
“Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?”
Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?
“This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.”
Lois Wolk is a conservative?
“The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election.”
Democrats and Republicans turned out in equal proportion to the registration numbers. Declined to states barely showed up, Tuesday.
“Are you saying that we should let right-wing Republicans do all of the grooming at the school board and city council levels?”
When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?
“Should we allow this while they prepare their candidates for higher office at the same time Progressive Democrats stay at the local level bickering?”
Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?
“This is how we end up with conservative electeds in the Assembly, Senate, Congress, etc.”
Lois Wolk is a conservative?
“The Democrats failed to come out in strong numbers on the school board election.”
Democrats and Republicans turned out in equal proportion to the registration numbers. Declined to states barely showed up, Tuesday.
“Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?”
Maybe but I’ll prefer to stick with attacking developer and anti-environmental democrats. And thsoe who only pay lip service to true progressive and libetal values.
“Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?”
Maybe but I’ll prefer to stick with attacking developer and anti-environmental democrats. And thsoe who only pay lip service to true progressive and libetal values.
“Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?”
Maybe but I’ll prefer to stick with attacking developer and anti-environmental democrats. And thsoe who only pay lip service to true progressive and libetal values.
“Maybe progressives should spend their time attacking anyone who is a Democrat who eats meat, drives a car, lives in a house built by a developer or has a job? Those right-wing Democrats are such evil creatures, aren’t they?”
Maybe but I’ll prefer to stick with attacking developer and anti-environmental democrats. And thsoe who only pay lip service to true progressive and libetal values.
I called voters in my precinct on election day (get out the vote), and I saw evidence of more registered Democrats voting on the precinct roster than Republicans or DS (declined to state).
I called voters in my precinct on election day (get out the vote), and I saw evidence of more registered Democrats voting on the precinct roster than Republicans or DS (declined to state).
I called voters in my precinct on election day (get out the vote), and I saw evidence of more registered Democrats voting on the precinct roster than Republicans or DS (declined to state).
I called voters in my precinct on election day (get out the vote), and I saw evidence of more registered Democrats voting on the precinct roster than Republicans or DS (declined to state).
Rich, High rise Apartments for student on the old Emerson site? Where would they park? With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing? If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?
I believe the plan is for mixed use which would still accomodate the District offices at that location.
Rich, High rise Apartments for student on the old Emerson site? Where would they park? With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing? If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?
I believe the plan is for mixed use which would still accomodate the District offices at that location.
Rich, High rise Apartments for student on the old Emerson site? Where would they park? With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing? If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?
I believe the plan is for mixed use which would still accomodate the District offices at that location.
Rich, High rise Apartments for student on the old Emerson site? Where would they park? With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing? If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?
I believe the plan is for mixed use which would still accomodate the District offices at that location.
“Rich, High rise Apartments for students on the old Emerson site? Where would they park?”
First, no one but me is proposing high rise (say 4 story) student housing on the 5th Street side of the DJUSD block. So it’s not as if it would ever happen.
Nonetheless, I would propose that the students don’t park at all. At that location, they are two blocks from campus; three from downtown; and four from a full-service grocery store.
Why would they need to have cars?
Any students who have cars wouldn’t choose to live in those particular dorms. They could live elsewhere in town.
My feeling is that it’s ridiculous to assume everyone needs to have a car. If you are young and healthy, ride a bike or walk, or take a bus on a rainy day.
“With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing?”
That’s a fair point. However, I think this particular location is ideal for student housing, being so close to campus and downtown. I’m sure West Village will be a nice place, but that’s about 1.5 miles from downtown and a good bike ride away from the center of campus.
If students move into the core area, then (all else held equal) fewer will live in remote parts of town, lowering the demand for more peripheral housing.
“If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?”
I don’t have an opinion on that. However, if the DJUSD makes a boatload of money selling off Grande, B Street and Neugget Fields, they could dedicate some of that money for entry-level teacher housing.
And if they decided to do that, here is how I would suggest they do it: either
1) purchase a few extant condominiums in town (with funds from the R/E sales) and lease them to new teachers (for say up to two years each) for as low a rent as possible (just enough to cover the District’s expenses); or
2) as a condition of the development of one or more of their properties — B Street, Grande, Nugget Fields — require the developer to build some apartment units which would be gifted back to the District and then managed as described in option 1.
If they did pursue the second option, it would probably be more politically feasible. However, I think the bottom line would be the same, either way.
“Rich, High rise Apartments for students on the old Emerson site? Where would they park?”
First, no one but me is proposing high rise (say 4 story) student housing on the 5th Street side of the DJUSD block. So it’s not as if it would ever happen.
Nonetheless, I would propose that the students don’t park at all. At that location, they are two blocks from campus; three from downtown; and four from a full-service grocery store.
Why would they need to have cars?
Any students who have cars wouldn’t choose to live in those particular dorms. They could live elsewhere in town.
My feeling is that it’s ridiculous to assume everyone needs to have a car. If you are young and healthy, ride a bike or walk, or take a bus on a rainy day.
“With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing?”
That’s a fair point. However, I think this particular location is ideal for student housing, being so close to campus and downtown. I’m sure West Village will be a nice place, but that’s about 1.5 miles from downtown and a good bike ride away from the center of campus.
If students move into the core area, then (all else held equal) fewer will live in remote parts of town, lowering the demand for more peripheral housing.
“If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?”
I don’t have an opinion on that. However, if the DJUSD makes a boatload of money selling off Grande, B Street and Neugget Fields, they could dedicate some of that money for entry-level teacher housing.
And if they decided to do that, here is how I would suggest they do it: either
1) purchase a few extant condominiums in town (with funds from the R/E sales) and lease them to new teachers (for say up to two years each) for as low a rent as possible (just enough to cover the District’s expenses); or
2) as a condition of the development of one or more of their properties — B Street, Grande, Nugget Fields — require the developer to build some apartment units which would be gifted back to the District and then managed as described in option 1.
If they did pursue the second option, it would probably be more politically feasible. However, I think the bottom line would be the same, either way.
“Rich, High rise Apartments for students on the old Emerson site? Where would they park?”
First, no one but me is proposing high rise (say 4 story) student housing on the 5th Street side of the DJUSD block. So it’s not as if it would ever happen.
Nonetheless, I would propose that the students don’t park at all. At that location, they are two blocks from campus; three from downtown; and four from a full-service grocery store.
Why would they need to have cars?
Any students who have cars wouldn’t choose to live in those particular dorms. They could live elsewhere in town.
My feeling is that it’s ridiculous to assume everyone needs to have a car. If you are young and healthy, ride a bike or walk, or take a bus on a rainy day.
“With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing?”
That’s a fair point. However, I think this particular location is ideal for student housing, being so close to campus and downtown. I’m sure West Village will be a nice place, but that’s about 1.5 miles from downtown and a good bike ride away from the center of campus.
If students move into the core area, then (all else held equal) fewer will live in remote parts of town, lowering the demand for more peripheral housing.
“If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?”
I don’t have an opinion on that. However, if the DJUSD makes a boatload of money selling off Grande, B Street and Neugget Fields, they could dedicate some of that money for entry-level teacher housing.
And if they decided to do that, here is how I would suggest they do it: either
1) purchase a few extant condominiums in town (with funds from the R/E sales) and lease them to new teachers (for say up to two years each) for as low a rent as possible (just enough to cover the District’s expenses); or
2) as a condition of the development of one or more of their properties — B Street, Grande, Nugget Fields — require the developer to build some apartment units which would be gifted back to the District and then managed as described in option 1.
If they did pursue the second option, it would probably be more politically feasible. However, I think the bottom line would be the same, either way.
“Rich, High rise Apartments for students on the old Emerson site? Where would they park?”
First, no one but me is proposing high rise (say 4 story) student housing on the 5th Street side of the DJUSD block. So it’s not as if it would ever happen.
Nonetheless, I would propose that the students don’t park at all. At that location, they are two blocks from campus; three from downtown; and four from a full-service grocery store.
Why would they need to have cars?
Any students who have cars wouldn’t choose to live in those particular dorms. They could live elsewhere in town.
My feeling is that it’s ridiculous to assume everyone needs to have a car. If you are young and healthy, ride a bike or walk, or take a bus on a rainy day.
“With West campus coming online, why focus on student housing?”
That’s a fair point. However, I think this particular location is ideal for student housing, being so close to campus and downtown. I’m sure West Village will be a nice place, but that’s about 1.5 miles from downtown and a good bike ride away from the center of campus.
If students move into the core area, then (all else held equal) fewer will live in remote parts of town, lowering the demand for more peripheral housing.
“If we are going to build housing – why not for entry-level teachers?”
I don’t have an opinion on that. However, if the DJUSD makes a boatload of money selling off Grande, B Street and Neugget Fields, they could dedicate some of that money for entry-level teacher housing.
And if they decided to do that, here is how I would suggest they do it: either
1) purchase a few extant condominiums in town (with funds from the R/E sales) and lease them to new teachers (for say up to two years each) for as low a rent as possible (just enough to cover the District’s expenses); or
2) as a condition of the development of one or more of their properties — B Street, Grande, Nugget Fields — require the developer to build some apartment units which would be gifted back to the District and then managed as described in option 1.
If they did pursue the second option, it would probably be more politically feasible. However, I think the bottom line would be the same, either way.
“When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?”
John Munn was on the school board.
“When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?”
John Munn was on the school board.
“When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?”
John Munn was on the school board.
“When was the last time a “right-wing” anything got elected in the city of Davis to any position?”
John Munn was on the school board.
B.J. Kline was a ‘right-wing’ anything, as well.
B.J. Kline was a ‘right-wing’ anything, as well.
B.J. Kline was a ‘right-wing’ anything, as well.
B.J. Kline was a ‘right-wing’ anything, as well.
I know John Munn is a Republican. He’s not a “right-winger,” though. He’s a fiscal conservative and otherwise a centrist.
As far as B.J. Kline goes, all I know about his politics is from his term on the school board. He didn’t do anything “right-wing” there, AFAIK. He did, however, strongly support the CTE programs, unlike some of his colleagues on the Board.
I know John Munn is a Republican. He’s not a “right-winger,” though. He’s a fiscal conservative and otherwise a centrist.
As far as B.J. Kline goes, all I know about his politics is from his term on the school board. He didn’t do anything “right-wing” there, AFAIK. He did, however, strongly support the CTE programs, unlike some of his colleagues on the Board.
I know John Munn is a Republican. He’s not a “right-winger,” though. He’s a fiscal conservative and otherwise a centrist.
As far as B.J. Kline goes, all I know about his politics is from his term on the school board. He didn’t do anything “right-wing” there, AFAIK. He did, however, strongly support the CTE programs, unlike some of his colleagues on the Board.
I know John Munn is a Republican. He’s not a “right-winger,” though. He’s a fiscal conservative and otherwise a centrist.
As far as B.J. Kline goes, all I know about his politics is from his term on the school board. He didn’t do anything “right-wing” there, AFAIK. He did, however, strongly support the CTE programs, unlike some of his colleagues on the Board.
John Munn = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
BJ Klein = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
Don Saylor =
Lovenburg Supporter
Decline 2 State
Discovers must be Dem
to be elected, so he
registers as a Dem
Ruth Asmundson =
Lovenburg supporter
Married to Vigfus Asmundson Republican mayor
her politics = conservative
Need we roll out the long list of Developer Democrats, Decline to States, and Right-Wingers who hide under the guise of “fiscal conservative.”
Bottom line: If we don’t pay attention and stop allowing these kind of people into positions of power then Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.
This does not speak well for the supposed 2nd most educated community. I think that statement refers to “book educated,” because people are obviously not very politically educated in this city.
John Munn = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
BJ Klein = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
Don Saylor =
Lovenburg Supporter
Decline 2 State
Discovers must be Dem
to be elected, so he
registers as a Dem
Ruth Asmundson =
Lovenburg supporter
Married to Vigfus Asmundson Republican mayor
her politics = conservative
Need we roll out the long list of Developer Democrats, Decline to States, and Right-Wingers who hide under the guise of “fiscal conservative.”
Bottom line: If we don’t pay attention and stop allowing these kind of people into positions of power then Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.
This does not speak well for the supposed 2nd most educated community. I think that statement refers to “book educated,” because people are obviously not very politically educated in this city.
John Munn = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
BJ Klein = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
Don Saylor =
Lovenburg Supporter
Decline 2 State
Discovers must be Dem
to be elected, so he
registers as a Dem
Ruth Asmundson =
Lovenburg supporter
Married to Vigfus Asmundson Republican mayor
her politics = conservative
Need we roll out the long list of Developer Democrats, Decline to States, and Right-Wingers who hide under the guise of “fiscal conservative.”
Bottom line: If we don’t pay attention and stop allowing these kind of people into positions of power then Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.
This does not speak well for the supposed 2nd most educated community. I think that statement refers to “book educated,” because people are obviously not very politically educated in this city.
John Munn = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
BJ Klein = Republican
Right-Wing
Lovenburg Supporter
Don Saylor =
Lovenburg Supporter
Decline 2 State
Discovers must be Dem
to be elected, so he
registers as a Dem
Ruth Asmundson =
Lovenburg supporter
Married to Vigfus Asmundson Republican mayor
her politics = conservative
Need we roll out the long list of Developer Democrats, Decline to States, and Right-Wingers who hide under the guise of “fiscal conservative.”
Bottom line: If we don’t pay attention and stop allowing these kind of people into positions of power then Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.
This does not speak well for the supposed 2nd most educated community. I think that statement refers to “book educated,” because people are obviously not very politically educated in this city.
You are so right, Mr. Disgusted. Supporting Susan Lovenburg was definitely code for being a right-wing hack:
Lamar Heystek = Lovenburg supporter
Ann M. Evans = Lovenburg supporter
Marty West = Lovenburg supporter
Val Dolcini = Lovenburg supporter
You are so right, Mr. Disgusted. Supporting Susan Lovenburg was definitely code for being a right-wing hack:
Lamar Heystek = Lovenburg supporter
Ann M. Evans = Lovenburg supporter
Marty West = Lovenburg supporter
Val Dolcini = Lovenburg supporter
You are so right, Mr. Disgusted. Supporting Susan Lovenburg was definitely code for being a right-wing hack:
Lamar Heystek = Lovenburg supporter
Ann M. Evans = Lovenburg supporter
Marty West = Lovenburg supporter
Val Dolcini = Lovenburg supporter
You are so right, Mr. Disgusted. Supporting Susan Lovenburg was definitely code for being a right-wing hack:
Lamar Heystek = Lovenburg supporter
Ann M. Evans = Lovenburg supporter
Marty West = Lovenburg supporter
Val Dolcini = Lovenburg supporter
“…Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.”
ROFLMAO!
“…Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.”
ROFLMAO!
“…Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.”
ROFLMAO!
“…Davis will become a Republican majority bedroom community.”
ROFLMAO!
don shor = lovenburg supporter?
don shor = lovenburg supporter?
don shor = lovenburg supporter?
don shor = lovenburg supporter?