An area couple, African-American, is on their way home, they were meeting with the police ironically enough about a pending lawsuit filed against the City of Davis and the police for multiple incidents of harassment and racial profiling. Heading home, a patrol car is driving the other direction, spotting them, Officer Jeff Beasley orders his trainee to pull a u-turn and come up behind them, turns on the lights and pulls them over.
There were a couple of disturbing things that occurred during this incident. When pressed for a reason as to why he pulled them over, Beasley (who immediately took control of the situation–recognizing the couple) said they had an obstructed rear license plate. The explanation makes no sense as it is clear that the police car was traveling the opposite direction, spotted their pick up truck and performed a u-turn behind them. There is no way that the officers could have seen an obstructed rear license plate from the front side. Moreover, of course, there is no obstructed rear license plate. When you see the vehicle it is clear as day. It was the most flimsy of excuses to pull over and continue to harass this couple.
The second and most disturbing feature of this incident is that the couple was able to capture it on film. (For a number of reasons unfortunately it cannot be shown on this blog). At one point, they informed the Officer that they were filming this and he responded that the police were filming it as well.
The City of Davis has installed expensive digital recording devices into all its patrol cars. This has been promoted as a means to not only protect the police officers but better serve the public. However, in most incidents of this sort, it seems that the recordings have not worked. Some have suggested that there are legitimate technical issues in getting such a system operational. Others have suggested that this is a little bit too convenient–especially since some of the most revealing footage is apparently not reporting.
When the attorney for this couple requested to view the police vehicle surveillance video, he was told that it didn’t record it, despite the fact that Officer Beasley clearly informed the couple that it was being recorded. Moreover, there is a couple of minute period of time when the police officers go into the trunk of the police car and appear to be doing something back there. From the coverage we’ve seen it is unclear as to what they were doing, but it seemed to be a strange thing to do at that point in time.
All of this will be forwarded to the proper authorities, however, troubling aspects of this remain, particularly the unreliability of the recording equipment and the open question as to whether or not the officer has the ability to manipulate or alter recordings on the scene. These are questions for the new police ombudsman, Robert Aaronson, to address and we hope he is allowed to view and investigate this incident.
—Doug Paul Davis reporting
Several things come to mind-
I am certain that the name, Officer Beasley, has come up previously – someone needs to maintain a scorecard for each officer involved in these incidents. I think this was the same guy who pulled over Dean Johanson (Yolo ACLU). One impression I got from the Johanson story was that he was pulled over because of his ACLU affiliation. I wonder if this couple was pulled over because the officer knew they were filing complaints against the DPD. In other words I wonder if they were specifically targeted.
Video cameras are obviously a wonderful tool to support the truth. More people should carry cameras. I do not visit Davis very often but I do make it a habit of grabbing a video camera before I go to Davis – because I do not trust the DPD. I do not even think about taking a camera to any other city – unless I am sightseeing.
This story clearly demonstrates dishonest behavior by the DPD – a continuing and significant problem. The Officer lied about the reason for pulling the couple over then he lied about the operation of the camera. Of course he might not have lied about the camera – if that was the case then he conspired with others (at least the other Officer in the car)to erase the evidence of the stop. SAH
Several things come to mind-
I am certain that the name, Officer Beasley, has come up previously – someone needs to maintain a scorecard for each officer involved in these incidents. I think this was the same guy who pulled over Dean Johanson (Yolo ACLU). One impression I got from the Johanson story was that he was pulled over because of his ACLU affiliation. I wonder if this couple was pulled over because the officer knew they were filing complaints against the DPD. In other words I wonder if they were specifically targeted.
Video cameras are obviously a wonderful tool to support the truth. More people should carry cameras. I do not visit Davis very often but I do make it a habit of grabbing a video camera before I go to Davis – because I do not trust the DPD. I do not even think about taking a camera to any other city – unless I am sightseeing.
This story clearly demonstrates dishonest behavior by the DPD – a continuing and significant problem. The Officer lied about the reason for pulling the couple over then he lied about the operation of the camera. Of course he might not have lied about the camera – if that was the case then he conspired with others (at least the other Officer in the car)to erase the evidence of the stop. SAH
Several things come to mind-
I am certain that the name, Officer Beasley, has come up previously – someone needs to maintain a scorecard for each officer involved in these incidents. I think this was the same guy who pulled over Dean Johanson (Yolo ACLU). One impression I got from the Johanson story was that he was pulled over because of his ACLU affiliation. I wonder if this couple was pulled over because the officer knew they were filing complaints against the DPD. In other words I wonder if they were specifically targeted.
Video cameras are obviously a wonderful tool to support the truth. More people should carry cameras. I do not visit Davis very often but I do make it a habit of grabbing a video camera before I go to Davis – because I do not trust the DPD. I do not even think about taking a camera to any other city – unless I am sightseeing.
This story clearly demonstrates dishonest behavior by the DPD – a continuing and significant problem. The Officer lied about the reason for pulling the couple over then he lied about the operation of the camera. Of course he might not have lied about the camera – if that was the case then he conspired with others (at least the other Officer in the car)to erase the evidence of the stop. SAH
Several things come to mind-
I am certain that the name, Officer Beasley, has come up previously – someone needs to maintain a scorecard for each officer involved in these incidents. I think this was the same guy who pulled over Dean Johanson (Yolo ACLU). One impression I got from the Johanson story was that he was pulled over because of his ACLU affiliation. I wonder if this couple was pulled over because the officer knew they were filing complaints against the DPD. In other words I wonder if they were specifically targeted.
Video cameras are obviously a wonderful tool to support the truth. More people should carry cameras. I do not visit Davis very often but I do make it a habit of grabbing a video camera before I go to Davis – because I do not trust the DPD. I do not even think about taking a camera to any other city – unless I am sightseeing.
This story clearly demonstrates dishonest behavior by the DPD – a continuing and significant problem. The Officer lied about the reason for pulling the couple over then he lied about the operation of the camera. Of course he might not have lied about the camera – if that was the case then he conspired with others (at least the other Officer in the car)to erase the evidence of the stop. SAH
I’ve compiled a list of 17 incidents since the beginning of this year. Beasley has now been involved in at least three of those incidents. One was indeed Dean Johansson.
People need to video this stuff, but it’s very important that when they are confronted by officers even if the officer is in the wrong to be very respectful of the officer and cooperate, and then you can file your complaint later.
I’ve compiled a list of 17 incidents since the beginning of this year. Beasley has now been involved in at least three of those incidents. One was indeed Dean Johansson.
People need to video this stuff, but it’s very important that when they are confronted by officers even if the officer is in the wrong to be very respectful of the officer and cooperate, and then you can file your complaint later.
I’ve compiled a list of 17 incidents since the beginning of this year. Beasley has now been involved in at least three of those incidents. One was indeed Dean Johansson.
People need to video this stuff, but it’s very important that when they are confronted by officers even if the officer is in the wrong to be very respectful of the officer and cooperate, and then you can file your complaint later.
I’ve compiled a list of 17 incidents since the beginning of this year. Beasley has now been involved in at least three of those incidents. One was indeed Dean Johansson.
People need to video this stuff, but it’s very important that when they are confronted by officers even if the officer is in the wrong to be very respectful of the officer and cooperate, and then you can file your complaint later.
I have alerted councilman Heystek to this very informative piece. It is important for our city council reps to stay involved in making sure that these first cases are thoroughly explored by our new ombudsman. These first cases will set the tone of his tenure. Emails and public comment at council meetings are the voter’s way of letting our council reps know that we are paying attention to their actions (and inactions).
I have alerted councilman Heystek to this very informative piece. It is important for our city council reps to stay involved in making sure that these first cases are thoroughly explored by our new ombudsman. These first cases will set the tone of his tenure. Emails and public comment at council meetings are the voter’s way of letting our council reps know that we are paying attention to their actions (and inactions).
I have alerted councilman Heystek to this very informative piece. It is important for our city council reps to stay involved in making sure that these first cases are thoroughly explored by our new ombudsman. These first cases will set the tone of his tenure. Emails and public comment at council meetings are the voter’s way of letting our council reps know that we are paying attention to their actions (and inactions).
I have alerted councilman Heystek to this very informative piece. It is important for our city council reps to stay involved in making sure that these first cases are thoroughly explored by our new ombudsman. These first cases will set the tone of his tenure. Emails and public comment at council meetings are the voter’s way of letting our council reps know that we are paying attention to their actions (and inactions).
The victim in this incident will address the council at their next meeting, which I believe is November 14.
Also of interest is that the City Council has invited former members of the HRC to that meeting–including the members that they “fired” last June.
The victim in this incident will address the council at their next meeting, which I believe is November 14.
Also of interest is that the City Council has invited former members of the HRC to that meeting–including the members that they “fired” last June.
The victim in this incident will address the council at their next meeting, which I believe is November 14.
Also of interest is that the City Council has invited former members of the HRC to that meeting–including the members that they “fired” last June.
The victim in this incident will address the council at their next meeting, which I believe is November 14.
Also of interest is that the City Council has invited former members of the HRC to that meeting–including the members that they “fired” last June.
It’s easy to throw out innuendo and accusations, isn’t it? Who needs facts? Who needs the whole story? After all, what you “think” happens to fall right in line with your beliefs. Handy.
Those pesky facts… they tell a different story. One you’re not so receptive to.
And that silly City Council majority who insisted on getting the facts. Who needs responsible people like that on the council?
It’s easy to throw out innuendo and accusations, isn’t it? Who needs facts? Who needs the whole story? After all, what you “think” happens to fall right in line with your beliefs. Handy.
Those pesky facts… they tell a different story. One you’re not so receptive to.
And that silly City Council majority who insisted on getting the facts. Who needs responsible people like that on the council?
It’s easy to throw out innuendo and accusations, isn’t it? Who needs facts? Who needs the whole story? After all, what you “think” happens to fall right in line with your beliefs. Handy.
Those pesky facts… they tell a different story. One you’re not so receptive to.
And that silly City Council majority who insisted on getting the facts. Who needs responsible people like that on the council?
It’s easy to throw out innuendo and accusations, isn’t it? Who needs facts? Who needs the whole story? After all, what you “think” happens to fall right in line with your beliefs. Handy.
Those pesky facts… they tell a different story. One you’re not so receptive to.
And that silly City Council majority who insisted on getting the facts. Who needs responsible people like that on the council?
Davis resident… you are correct. It is much too early to come to any conclusions about this episode.The new ombudsman needs to be encouraged by the council to vigorously pursue the facts to their conclusion. With Beasley involved in 3+ of the 17 reported incidents, we would need to know how that percentage compares with that of the other patrolling officers. Is 3+ a significantly greater percentage?
Davis resident… you are correct. It is much too early to come to any conclusions about this episode.The new ombudsman needs to be encouraged by the council to vigorously pursue the facts to their conclusion. With Beasley involved in 3+ of the 17 reported incidents, we would need to know how that percentage compares with that of the other patrolling officers. Is 3+ a significantly greater percentage?
Davis resident… you are correct. It is much too early to come to any conclusions about this episode.The new ombudsman needs to be encouraged by the council to vigorously pursue the facts to their conclusion. With Beasley involved in 3+ of the 17 reported incidents, we would need to know how that percentage compares with that of the other patrolling officers. Is 3+ a significantly greater percentage?
Davis resident… you are correct. It is much too early to come to any conclusions about this episode.The new ombudsman needs to be encouraged by the council to vigorously pursue the facts to their conclusion. With Beasley involved in 3+ of the 17 reported incidents, we would need to know how that percentage compares with that of the other patrolling officers. Is 3+ a significantly greater percentage?
There are facts associated with every incident that’s been alleged and no one here seems very interested in the facts of these matters. The facts do not support the allegations.
There are facts associated with every incident that’s been alleged and no one here seems very interested in the facts of these matters. The facts do not support the allegations.
There are facts associated with every incident that’s been alleged and no one here seems very interested in the facts of these matters. The facts do not support the allegations.
There are facts associated with every incident that’s been alleged and no one here seems very interested in the facts of these matters. The facts do not support the allegations.
I agree that “facts” are important, but truth is even more important. I would love to hear the other side of the story – what is it? I would also love to view the video tape, an enormous amount of truth should come from the video. It is too bad there is only one video – it is difficult to understand why the DPD video is missing. SAH
I agree that “facts” are important, but truth is even more important. I would love to hear the other side of the story – what is it? I would also love to view the video tape, an enormous amount of truth should come from the video. It is too bad there is only one video – it is difficult to understand why the DPD video is missing. SAH
I agree that “facts” are important, but truth is even more important. I would love to hear the other side of the story – what is it? I would also love to view the video tape, an enormous amount of truth should come from the video. It is too bad there is only one video – it is difficult to understand why the DPD video is missing. SAH
I agree that “facts” are important, but truth is even more important. I would love to hear the other side of the story – what is it? I would also love to view the video tape, an enormous amount of truth should come from the video. It is too bad there is only one video – it is difficult to understand why the DPD video is missing. SAH
The facts are extremely important. One reason I like the Ombudsman that they hired is that he is a guy who is going to look at the facts and make a decision based on those facts. It is possible that Beasley was completely within his rights here, it is possible that he is not.
I posted this story because I think people need to know what is going on here and what this is issue about. Beasley has shown a pattern of behavior here that needs to be looked and the only way that is going to happen is if peole look at these stories and ask questions.
The facts are extremely important. One reason I like the Ombudsman that they hired is that he is a guy who is going to look at the facts and make a decision based on those facts. It is possible that Beasley was completely within his rights here, it is possible that he is not.
I posted this story because I think people need to know what is going on here and what this is issue about. Beasley has shown a pattern of behavior here that needs to be looked and the only way that is going to happen is if peole look at these stories and ask questions.
The facts are extremely important. One reason I like the Ombudsman that they hired is that he is a guy who is going to look at the facts and make a decision based on those facts. It is possible that Beasley was completely within his rights here, it is possible that he is not.
I posted this story because I think people need to know what is going on here and what this is issue about. Beasley has shown a pattern of behavior here that needs to be looked and the only way that is going to happen is if peole look at these stories and ask questions.
The facts are extremely important. One reason I like the Ombudsman that they hired is that he is a guy who is going to look at the facts and make a decision based on those facts. It is possible that Beasley was completely within his rights here, it is possible that he is not.
I posted this story because I think people need to know what is going on here and what this is issue about. Beasley has shown a pattern of behavior here that needs to be looked and the only way that is going to happen is if peole look at these stories and ask questions.
On what facts do you base Beasley’s “pattern of behavior”?
Were you at the Johansson stop?
Were you at the stop that is the subject of this story?
Were you present during any of the testimony given to the city council or its attorneys on any of these incidents?
Do you know anything at all firsthand about what part, if any, Beasley or any other police officer played in this or any other incident?
Not what you were told by self-serving reporters.
Facts.
If someone called you a racist, would that make it true?
On what facts do you base Beasley’s “pattern of behavior”?
Were you at the Johansson stop?
Were you at the stop that is the subject of this story?
Were you present during any of the testimony given to the city council or its attorneys on any of these incidents?
Do you know anything at all firsthand about what part, if any, Beasley or any other police officer played in this or any other incident?
Not what you were told by self-serving reporters.
Facts.
If someone called you a racist, would that make it true?
On what facts do you base Beasley’s “pattern of behavior”?
Were you at the Johansson stop?
Were you at the stop that is the subject of this story?
Were you present during any of the testimony given to the city council or its attorneys on any of these incidents?
Do you know anything at all firsthand about what part, if any, Beasley or any other police officer played in this or any other incident?
Not what you were told by self-serving reporters.
Facts.
If someone called you a racist, would that make it true?
On what facts do you base Beasley’s “pattern of behavior”?
Were you at the Johansson stop?
Were you at the stop that is the subject of this story?
Were you present during any of the testimony given to the city council or its attorneys on any of these incidents?
Do you know anything at all firsthand about what part, if any, Beasley or any other police officer played in this or any other incident?
Not what you were told by self-serving reporters.
Facts.
If someone called you a racist, would that make it true?
On what do I base my belief? I’ve watched the raw video of both the Johansson incident and this latest one. Have you?
On what do I base my belief? I’ve watched the raw video of both the Johansson incident and this latest one. Have you?
On what do I base my belief? I’ve watched the raw video of both the Johansson incident and this latest one. Have you?
On what do I base my belief? I’ve watched the raw video of both the Johansson incident and this latest one. Have you?
By the way, I never used the word “racist” in my account of this event.
By the way, I never used the word “racist” in my account of this event.
By the way, I never used the word “racist” in my account of this event.
By the way, I never used the word “racist” in my account of this event.
Since Johansson would not be filming when he encountered the officer and the camera likely arrived late to the scene, the video almost certainly begins well after the car stop occurred so doesn’t tell you anything at all about how or why he was stopped or about his behavior during the time between the stop and the beginning of the video.
Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.
Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped. There are some fine examples available online that demonstrate the limits of video in telling the whole story or even of telling the story accurately.
The question remains a valid one. If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?
For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?
Back to my original point.
Since Johansson would not be filming when he encountered the officer and the camera likely arrived late to the scene, the video almost certainly begins well after the car stop occurred so doesn’t tell you anything at all about how or why he was stopped or about his behavior during the time between the stop and the beginning of the video.
Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.
Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped. There are some fine examples available online that demonstrate the limits of video in telling the whole story or even of telling the story accurately.
The question remains a valid one. If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?
For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?
Back to my original point.
Since Johansson would not be filming when he encountered the officer and the camera likely arrived late to the scene, the video almost certainly begins well after the car stop occurred so doesn’t tell you anything at all about how or why he was stopped or about his behavior during the time between the stop and the beginning of the video.
Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.
Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped. There are some fine examples available online that demonstrate the limits of video in telling the whole story or even of telling the story accurately.
The question remains a valid one. If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?
For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?
Back to my original point.
Since Johansson would not be filming when he encountered the officer and the camera likely arrived late to the scene, the video almost certainly begins well after the car stop occurred so doesn’t tell you anything at all about how or why he was stopped or about his behavior during the time between the stop and the beginning of the video.
Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.
Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped. There are some fine examples available online that demonstrate the limits of video in telling the whole story or even of telling the story accurately.
The question remains a valid one. If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?
For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?
Back to my original point.
Wow!….. It is obvious that the ombudsman position will be critical to calming the passions on this issue which still appear to be white-hot. All indications are that we have just the right man for the position of ombudsman. I think that we really lucked out here.
Wow!….. It is obvious that the ombudsman position will be critical to calming the passions on this issue which still appear to be white-hot. All indications are that we have just the right man for the position of ombudsman. I think that we really lucked out here.
Wow!….. It is obvious that the ombudsman position will be critical to calming the passions on this issue which still appear to be white-hot. All indications are that we have just the right man for the position of ombudsman. I think that we really lucked out here.
Wow!….. It is obvious that the ombudsman position will be critical to calming the passions on this issue which still appear to be white-hot. All indications are that we have just the right man for the position of ombudsman. I think that we really lucked out here.
Davis Police Officers should remind themselves of an important rule. The golden rule is best interpreted as saying: Treat others only in ways that you’re willing to be treated in the same exact situation. To apply it, you should imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same circumstances, then you violate the rule. SAH
Davis Police Officers should remind themselves of an important rule. The golden rule is best interpreted as saying: Treat others only in ways that you’re willing to be treated in the same exact situation. To apply it, you should imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same circumstances, then you violate the rule. SAH
Davis Police Officers should remind themselves of an important rule. The golden rule is best interpreted as saying: Treat others only in ways that you’re willing to be treated in the same exact situation. To apply it, you should imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same circumstances, then you violate the rule. SAH
Davis Police Officers should remind themselves of an important rule. The golden rule is best interpreted as saying: Treat others only in ways that you’re willing to be treated in the same exact situation. To apply it, you should imagine yourself in the exact place of the other person on the receiving end of the action. If you act in a given way toward another, and yet are unwilling to be treated that way in the same circumstances, then you violate the rule. SAH
Davis Resident:
Johansson was cited for speeding, however the judge threw out that citation because she deemed that it was physically impossible to speed in the distance he had travelled. Moreover, the video tapes shows Mr. Johansson asking for a great length of time what he did wrong before the officers met, conferred, and came up with a speeding citation.
“Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.”
This is true and one of the nice things about the incident this past week is that the couple involved actually were driving with the camera rolling and so when the officer approached them, they had the chance to catch it on tape.
The second factor of course is that many of these incidents begin and end with neither a warning nor a citation, in Johansson’s case the citation was thrown out by a court. So I think that is evidence of some sort of problem by the police in these cases.
“Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped.”
That is correct and something that has been mentioned in several blog entries and why racial profiling cases are so frustrating for all involved because they are darn near impossible to prove.
SO I turn that back on you–what should we do about this? And what can we do? I assume, you don’t think we should just accept whatever the police do. You may feel they are justified, and they may be, but wouldn’t it be nice to have some sort of process to ascertain that that both sides would accept as legitimate and therefore improve the trust we have in our police–most of whom are good and hard working officers?
“If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?”
No it does not.
“For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?”
Nor does that.
I guess my final question for you, is where do you want this to go? There are a lot of people who believe they are being mistreated here, most of them do not have a lot of money, resources, and in a lot of cases means to file lawsuits and fight the police in the courts, what do you suggest they do?
As Davisite mentioned, thank goodness we have hired a good man in Mr. Aaronson. Unfortunately, I fear that he will not have the power and those in power will not have the political will to make the kinds of changes needed, but that will be determined on another day.
Davis Resident:
Johansson was cited for speeding, however the judge threw out that citation because she deemed that it was physically impossible to speed in the distance he had travelled. Moreover, the video tapes shows Mr. Johansson asking for a great length of time what he did wrong before the officers met, conferred, and came up with a speeding citation.
“Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.”
This is true and one of the nice things about the incident this past week is that the couple involved actually were driving with the camera rolling and so when the officer approached them, they had the chance to catch it on tape.
The second factor of course is that many of these incidents begin and end with neither a warning nor a citation, in Johansson’s case the citation was thrown out by a court. So I think that is evidence of some sort of problem by the police in these cases.
“Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped.”
That is correct and something that has been mentioned in several blog entries and why racial profiling cases are so frustrating for all involved because they are darn near impossible to prove.
SO I turn that back on you–what should we do about this? And what can we do? I assume, you don’t think we should just accept whatever the police do. You may feel they are justified, and they may be, but wouldn’t it be nice to have some sort of process to ascertain that that both sides would accept as legitimate and therefore improve the trust we have in our police–most of whom are good and hard working officers?
“If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?”
No it does not.
“For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?”
Nor does that.
I guess my final question for you, is where do you want this to go? There are a lot of people who believe they are being mistreated here, most of them do not have a lot of money, resources, and in a lot of cases means to file lawsuits and fight the police in the courts, what do you suggest they do?
As Davisite mentioned, thank goodness we have hired a good man in Mr. Aaronson. Unfortunately, I fear that he will not have the power and those in power will not have the political will to make the kinds of changes needed, but that will be determined on another day.
Davis Resident:
Johansson was cited for speeding, however the judge threw out that citation because she deemed that it was physically impossible to speed in the distance he had travelled. Moreover, the video tapes shows Mr. Johansson asking for a great length of time what he did wrong before the officers met, conferred, and came up with a speeding citation.
“Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.”
This is true and one of the nice things about the incident this past week is that the couple involved actually were driving with the camera rolling and so when the officer approached them, they had the chance to catch it on tape.
The second factor of course is that many of these incidents begin and end with neither a warning nor a citation, in Johansson’s case the citation was thrown out by a court. So I think that is evidence of some sort of problem by the police in these cases.
“Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped.”
That is correct and something that has been mentioned in several blog entries and why racial profiling cases are so frustrating for all involved because they are darn near impossible to prove.
SO I turn that back on you–what should we do about this? And what can we do? I assume, you don’t think we should just accept whatever the police do. You may feel they are justified, and they may be, but wouldn’t it be nice to have some sort of process to ascertain that that both sides would accept as legitimate and therefore improve the trust we have in our police–most of whom are good and hard working officers?
“If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?”
No it does not.
“For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?”
Nor does that.
I guess my final question for you, is where do you want this to go? There are a lot of people who believe they are being mistreated here, most of them do not have a lot of money, resources, and in a lot of cases means to file lawsuits and fight the police in the courts, what do you suggest they do?
As Davisite mentioned, thank goodness we have hired a good man in Mr. Aaronson. Unfortunately, I fear that he will not have the power and those in power will not have the political will to make the kinds of changes needed, but that will be determined on another day.
Davis Resident:
Johansson was cited for speeding, however the judge threw out that citation because she deemed that it was physically impossible to speed in the distance he had travelled. Moreover, the video tapes shows Mr. Johansson asking for a great length of time what he did wrong before the officers met, conferred, and came up with a speeding citation.
“Unless the current stop was anticipated beforehand by the drivers, that video likely also begins after the events that generated the stop, so it too tells you nothing whatsoever about how the stop occurred or whether it was justified.”
This is true and one of the nice things about the incident this past week is that the couple involved actually were driving with the camera rolling and so when the officer approached them, they had the chance to catch it on tape.
The second factor of course is that many of these incidents begin and end with neither a warning nor a citation, in Johansson’s case the citation was thrown out by a court. So I think that is evidence of some sort of problem by the police in these cases.
“Not to mention the fact that no video speaks to the motivation of the officer or of the person stopped.”
That is correct and something that has been mentioned in several blog entries and why racial profiling cases are so frustrating for all involved because they are darn near impossible to prove.
SO I turn that back on you–what should we do about this? And what can we do? I assume, you don’t think we should just accept whatever the police do. You may feel they are justified, and they may be, but wouldn’t it be nice to have some sort of process to ascertain that that both sides would accept as legitimate and therefore improve the trust we have in our police–most of whom are good and hard working officers?
“If someone calls you a racist, as Ivy Anderson and Dean Johansson have repeatedly done at public city council meetings – pick another term if you like, such as liar, thief, abuser of police power, etc. – does that make it true?”
No it does not.
“For that matter if someone just thinks you’re a racist and doesn’t bother to label you and smear your name across the newspapers and internet without a shred of evidence to back up the claim, does that make it true?”
Nor does that.
I guess my final question for you, is where do you want this to go? There are a lot of people who believe they are being mistreated here, most of them do not have a lot of money, resources, and in a lot of cases means to file lawsuits and fight the police in the courts, what do you suggest they do?
As Davisite mentioned, thank goodness we have hired a good man in Mr. Aaronson. Unfortunately, I fear that he will not have the power and those in power will not have the political will to make the kinds of changes needed, but that will be determined on another day.
Dear davis resident…yes, I too believe in facts. I stand as a witness to the facts. When I heard complaints I investigated…I never jumped to “innuendo and accusations.” Then as a resident, parent, attorney, NAACP and ACLU boardmember, I too was pulled over by Beasley without any apparent reason and without being given a reason…when I asked for a reason a billy club was pulled on me. I could have submitted, given Beasley my license and identified myself as status quo and been on with my life. That wouldn’t have been fair to others that don’t have the resources to stand up and fight. Eventually a bogus ticket was written. A judge threw it out. Those are “facts.”
Dear davis resident…yes, I too believe in facts. I stand as a witness to the facts. When I heard complaints I investigated…I never jumped to “innuendo and accusations.” Then as a resident, parent, attorney, NAACP and ACLU boardmember, I too was pulled over by Beasley without any apparent reason and without being given a reason…when I asked for a reason a billy club was pulled on me. I could have submitted, given Beasley my license and identified myself as status quo and been on with my life. That wouldn’t have been fair to others that don’t have the resources to stand up and fight. Eventually a bogus ticket was written. A judge threw it out. Those are “facts.”
Dear davis resident…yes, I too believe in facts. I stand as a witness to the facts. When I heard complaints I investigated…I never jumped to “innuendo and accusations.” Then as a resident, parent, attorney, NAACP and ACLU boardmember, I too was pulled over by Beasley without any apparent reason and without being given a reason…when I asked for a reason a billy club was pulled on me. I could have submitted, given Beasley my license and identified myself as status quo and been on with my life. That wouldn’t have been fair to others that don’t have the resources to stand up and fight. Eventually a bogus ticket was written. A judge threw it out. Those are “facts.”
Dear davis resident…yes, I too believe in facts. I stand as a witness to the facts. When I heard complaints I investigated…I never jumped to “innuendo and accusations.” Then as a resident, parent, attorney, NAACP and ACLU boardmember, I too was pulled over by Beasley without any apparent reason and without being given a reason…when I asked for a reason a billy club was pulled on me. I could have submitted, given Beasley my license and identified myself as status quo and been on with my life. That wouldn’t have been fair to others that don’t have the resources to stand up and fight. Eventually a bogus ticket was written. A judge threw it out. Those are “facts.”
I would like people like you to stop making statements about people and incidents as if you know something about them when you don’t.
If you want to learn the truth about the Johansson case, read the court transcript of the hearing and look to see whether the information on which the judge based her decision was accurate. Oh, and don’t forget the part where Johansson admits that he may very well have been speeding. All public record.
But you’re not going to question Johansson’s motives, honesty, and “pattern of behavior”, are you?
I would like people like you to stop making statements about people and incidents as if you know something about them when you don’t.
If you want to learn the truth about the Johansson case, read the court transcript of the hearing and look to see whether the information on which the judge based her decision was accurate. Oh, and don’t forget the part where Johansson admits that he may very well have been speeding. All public record.
But you’re not going to question Johansson’s motives, honesty, and “pattern of behavior”, are you?
I would like people like you to stop making statements about people and incidents as if you know something about them when you don’t.
If you want to learn the truth about the Johansson case, read the court transcript of the hearing and look to see whether the information on which the judge based her decision was accurate. Oh, and don’t forget the part where Johansson admits that he may very well have been speeding. All public record.
But you’re not going to question Johansson’s motives, honesty, and “pattern of behavior”, are you?
I would like people like you to stop making statements about people and incidents as if you know something about them when you don’t.
If you want to learn the truth about the Johansson case, read the court transcript of the hearing and look to see whether the information on which the judge based her decision was accurate. Oh, and don’t forget the part where Johansson admits that he may very well have been speeding. All public record.
But you’re not going to question Johansson’s motives, honesty, and “pattern of behavior”, are you?
Davis Resident: I’d like for you to explain to us how the Judge, who threw out the charge of speed, was wrong.
Davis Resident: I’d like for you to explain to us how the Judge, who threw out the charge of speed, was wrong.
Davis Resident: I’d like for you to explain to us how the Judge, who threw out the charge of speed, was wrong.
Davis Resident: I’d like for you to explain to us how the Judge, who threw out the charge of speed, was wrong.
When our new ombudsman has done his work and hopefully thrown some light on these incidents and cooled passions down a bit, it is will be well to remember,when we go to vote for councilmembers in 2 years, that our current council gang of three insisted that there was NO PROBLEM and was only forced to put in place the ombudsman position by the public pressure of our HRC.
When our new ombudsman has done his work and hopefully thrown some light on these incidents and cooled passions down a bit, it is will be well to remember,when we go to vote for councilmembers in 2 years, that our current council gang of three insisted that there was NO PROBLEM and was only forced to put in place the ombudsman position by the public pressure of our HRC.
When our new ombudsman has done his work and hopefully thrown some light on these incidents and cooled passions down a bit, it is will be well to remember,when we go to vote for councilmembers in 2 years, that our current council gang of three insisted that there was NO PROBLEM and was only forced to put in place the ombudsman position by the public pressure of our HRC.
When our new ombudsman has done his work and hopefully thrown some light on these incidents and cooled passions down a bit, it is will be well to remember,when we go to vote for councilmembers in 2 years, that our current council gang of three insisted that there was NO PROBLEM and was only forced to put in place the ombudsman position by the public pressure of our HRC.
Another outstanding point Davisite. There is no way the City Council would have established an Ombudsman without the HRC and its former chair putting tremendous pressure on them.
It is telling that on May 2, 2006 when they passed the resolution establishing an Ombudsman, Don Saylor indicated that they did this despite the fact that “every specific case that has been raised has been shown to be without merit.” Now to me that’s an inherent contradiction. And it tells me that Saylor knew full well there was merit to this and that they had better do something (not nearly enough in my opinion).
Another outstanding point Davisite. There is no way the City Council would have established an Ombudsman without the HRC and its former chair putting tremendous pressure on them.
It is telling that on May 2, 2006 when they passed the resolution establishing an Ombudsman, Don Saylor indicated that they did this despite the fact that “every specific case that has been raised has been shown to be without merit.” Now to me that’s an inherent contradiction. And it tells me that Saylor knew full well there was merit to this and that they had better do something (not nearly enough in my opinion).
Another outstanding point Davisite. There is no way the City Council would have established an Ombudsman without the HRC and its former chair putting tremendous pressure on them.
It is telling that on May 2, 2006 when they passed the resolution establishing an Ombudsman, Don Saylor indicated that they did this despite the fact that “every specific case that has been raised has been shown to be without merit.” Now to me that’s an inherent contradiction. And it tells me that Saylor knew full well there was merit to this and that they had better do something (not nearly enough in my opinion).
Another outstanding point Davisite. There is no way the City Council would have established an Ombudsman without the HRC and its former chair putting tremendous pressure on them.
It is telling that on May 2, 2006 when they passed the resolution establishing an Ombudsman, Don Saylor indicated that they did this despite the fact that “every specific case that has been raised has been shown to be without merit.” Now to me that’s an inherent contradiction. And it tells me that Saylor knew full well there was merit to this and that they had better do something (not nearly enough in my opinion).
……….who they “fired”, I might add… talk about… attacking the messenger!
……….who they “fired”, I might add… talk about… attacking the messenger!
……….who they “fired”, I might add… talk about… attacking the messenger!
……….who they “fired”, I might add… talk about… attacking the messenger!
What I find suspicious is that the author of this blog has obviously never made any attempt to contact and interview the officer(s) from this incident. If he/she had then he/she would have stated so as any honest writer would have. The video, there is no reason that the video can’t be placed here. It sounds more like it is being hidden from the public and possibly edited. A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera. The big question is what is the motive behind this blog? As the author states, “By the way, I never used the word racist in my account of this event”. However, it is written in the title and if it is isn’t about racism then why put it in the title? Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families? There is such a large lack of investigation and evidence that it would be sad to see anyone believe what the author of this blog has written. The morale of the story, you want the truth you must seek it out yourself. Anything else could hold more bias than needed.
What I find suspicious is that the author of this blog has obviously never made any attempt to contact and interview the officer(s) from this incident. If he/she had then he/she would have stated so as any honest writer would have. The video, there is no reason that the video can’t be placed here. It sounds more like it is being hidden from the public and possibly edited. A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera. The big question is what is the motive behind this blog? As the author states, “By the way, I never used the word racist in my account of this event”. However, it is written in the title and if it is isn’t about racism then why put it in the title? Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families? There is such a large lack of investigation and evidence that it would be sad to see anyone believe what the author of this blog has written. The morale of the story, you want the truth you must seek it out yourself. Anything else could hold more bias than needed.
What I find suspicious is that the author of this blog has obviously never made any attempt to contact and interview the officer(s) from this incident. If he/she had then he/she would have stated so as any honest writer would have. The video, there is no reason that the video can’t be placed here. It sounds more like it is being hidden from the public and possibly edited. A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera. The big question is what is the motive behind this blog? As the author states, “By the way, I never used the word racist in my account of this event”. However, it is written in the title and if it is isn’t about racism then why put it in the title? Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families? There is such a large lack of investigation and evidence that it would be sad to see anyone believe what the author of this blog has written. The morale of the story, you want the truth you must seek it out yourself. Anything else could hold more bias than needed.
What I find suspicious is that the author of this blog has obviously never made any attempt to contact and interview the officer(s) from this incident. If he/she had then he/she would have stated so as any honest writer would have. The video, there is no reason that the video can’t be placed here. It sounds more like it is being hidden from the public and possibly edited. A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera. The big question is what is the motive behind this blog? As the author states, “By the way, I never used the word racist in my account of this event”. However, it is written in the title and if it is isn’t about racism then why put it in the title? Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families? There is such a large lack of investigation and evidence that it would be sad to see anyone believe what the author of this blog has written. The morale of the story, you want the truth you must seek it out yourself. Anything else could hold more bias than needed.
I used “racial profiling” not “racism” in the title.
The nice thing about the video is that it has the time scrolling on it, so any attempt to edit it would be detected. The ombudsman will get a copy of the video however, however there are a number of reasons I cannot post it here that I’m not going to get into. I’m uncertain what I would have gained by attempting to contact the officer involved here, he can respond to this blog if he is so interested.
I used “racial profiling” not “racism” in the title.
The nice thing about the video is that it has the time scrolling on it, so any attempt to edit it would be detected. The ombudsman will get a copy of the video however, however there are a number of reasons I cannot post it here that I’m not going to get into. I’m uncertain what I would have gained by attempting to contact the officer involved here, he can respond to this blog if he is so interested.
I used “racial profiling” not “racism” in the title.
The nice thing about the video is that it has the time scrolling on it, so any attempt to edit it would be detected. The ombudsman will get a copy of the video however, however there are a number of reasons I cannot post it here that I’m not going to get into. I’m uncertain what I would have gained by attempting to contact the officer involved here, he can respond to this blog if he is so interested.
I used “racial profiling” not “racism” in the title.
The nice thing about the video is that it has the time scrolling on it, so any attempt to edit it would be detected. The ombudsman will get a copy of the video however, however there are a number of reasons I cannot post it here that I’m not going to get into. I’m uncertain what I would have gained by attempting to contact the officer involved here, he can respond to this blog if he is so interested.
By all means Honesty should prevail-
“A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera” An interesting point although in this case a significant problem is the non existence of the video from the police car. One form of editing is to erase a tape and say it never existed. I am far more curious about the missing tape than I am in possible editing of the existing tape. The DPD has spent the last three years on improving technology and part of that was putting cameras in police cars – so what happened to the police video? This gets right to the issue of Honesty.
If the video does not exist then certainly the hidden audio recording device must have been working – has anyone listened to that tape?
“Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families?” Why, yes! Admittedly, when you look at the entire department of 105 employees the statistics look pretty good. However the DPD employees that most people interact with are the sworn officers – the 60 police officers. When you look at the diversity of that group, the diversity does not look very good. I have always felt that police honesty has more to do with these cases than racial profiling does. I really do not think DPD diversity is an issue and I am only writing about it because it is another thing the DPD is not being completely honest about.SAH
By all means Honesty should prevail-
“A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera” An interesting point although in this case a significant problem is the non existence of the video from the police car. One form of editing is to erase a tape and say it never existed. I am far more curious about the missing tape than I am in possible editing of the existing tape. The DPD has spent the last three years on improving technology and part of that was putting cameras in police cars – so what happened to the police video? This gets right to the issue of Honesty.
If the video does not exist then certainly the hidden audio recording device must have been working – has anyone listened to that tape?
“Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families?” Why, yes! Admittedly, when you look at the entire department of 105 employees the statistics look pretty good. However the DPD employees that most people interact with are the sworn officers – the 60 police officers. When you look at the diversity of that group, the diversity does not look very good. I have always felt that police honesty has more to do with these cases than racial profiling does. I really do not think DPD diversity is an issue and I am only writing about it because it is another thing the DPD is not being completely honest about.SAH
By all means Honesty should prevail-
“A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera” An interesting point although in this case a significant problem is the non existence of the video from the police car. One form of editing is to erase a tape and say it never existed. I am far more curious about the missing tape than I am in possible editing of the existing tape. The DPD has spent the last three years on improving technology and part of that was putting cameras in police cars – so what happened to the police video? This gets right to the issue of Honesty.
If the video does not exist then certainly the hidden audio recording device must have been working – has anyone listened to that tape?
“Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families?” Why, yes! Admittedly, when you look at the entire department of 105 employees the statistics look pretty good. However the DPD employees that most people interact with are the sworn officers – the 60 police officers. When you look at the diversity of that group, the diversity does not look very good. I have always felt that police honesty has more to do with these cases than racial profiling does. I really do not think DPD diversity is an issue and I am only writing about it because it is another thing the DPD is not being completely honest about.SAH
By all means Honesty should prevail-
“A home video is more easily edited than a police car camera” An interesting point although in this case a significant problem is the non existence of the video from the police car. One form of editing is to erase a tape and say it never existed. I am far more curious about the missing tape than I am in possible editing of the existing tape. The DPD has spent the last three years on improving technology and part of that was putting cameras in police cars – so what happened to the police video? This gets right to the issue of Honesty.
If the video does not exist then certainly the hidden audio recording device must have been working – has anyone listened to that tape?
“Has anyone ever checked the diversity of the Police Department and their families?” Why, yes! Admittedly, when you look at the entire department of 105 employees the statistics look pretty good. However the DPD employees that most people interact with are the sworn officers – the 60 police officers. When you look at the diversity of that group, the diversity does not look very good. I have always felt that police honesty has more to do with these cases than racial profiling does. I really do not think DPD diversity is an issue and I am only writing about it because it is another thing the DPD is not being completely honest about.SAH
Once again the excuse is unfounded as to why the video is not being posted. If we don’t have the Police video then why can’t we view the home video if it holds such compelling evidence of footage and audio that it would end the question of whether or not profiling took place. You say that you have looked into the diversity of the officers, what were the results? How many of them have diverse families? What culture are their families? If you are going to state something that you believe is true then at least back it up with fact. If you want to know who these officers are, wouldn’t you want to talk to them and ask them what nationality they have in their families? Wouldn’t this be some important information before you assume that they are racial profiling. How do you know that the video was erased? How do you know that it was not just a problem with the equipment? I looked at the history of the Davis police department and found that they have had many problems with electrical equipment due to the use of cellular signals that this equipment works off of. It’s the same with anyone who owns a cell phone in Davis. They will tell you that they get better reception outside of the city than in it. One last thing, how is it racial profiling if this individual did have something wrong with his/her vehicle? What was the reason for the stop? I have received a ticket before; there is a section on the ticket that states the vehicle code that was broken. Which was it? Why hasn’t that been stated? Should the police just bypass someone who has done something against California law just because they might be a different color? When they see someone murdering someone, steeling something or simply speeding down the road should they just look away because they are not of the same race? There are still a lot of questions to be answered before racial profiling can be the title of this blog.
Once again the excuse is unfounded as to why the video is not being posted. If we don’t have the Police video then why can’t we view the home video if it holds such compelling evidence of footage and audio that it would end the question of whether or not profiling took place. You say that you have looked into the diversity of the officers, what were the results? How many of them have diverse families? What culture are their families? If you are going to state something that you believe is true then at least back it up with fact. If you want to know who these officers are, wouldn’t you want to talk to them and ask them what nationality they have in their families? Wouldn’t this be some important information before you assume that they are racial profiling. How do you know that the video was erased? How do you know that it was not just a problem with the equipment? I looked at the history of the Davis police department and found that they have had many problems with electrical equipment due to the use of cellular signals that this equipment works off of. It’s the same with anyone who owns a cell phone in Davis. They will tell you that they get better reception outside of the city than in it. One last thing, how is it racial profiling if this individual did have something wrong with his/her vehicle? What was the reason for the stop? I have received a ticket before; there is a section on the ticket that states the vehicle code that was broken. Which was it? Why hasn’t that been stated? Should the police just bypass someone who has done something against California law just because they might be a different color? When they see someone murdering someone, steeling something or simply speeding down the road should they just look away because they are not of the same race? There are still a lot of questions to be answered before racial profiling can be the title of this blog.
Once again the excuse is unfounded as to why the video is not being posted. If we don’t have the Police video then why can’t we view the home video if it holds such compelling evidence of footage and audio that it would end the question of whether or not profiling took place. You say that you have looked into the diversity of the officers, what were the results? How many of them have diverse families? What culture are their families? If you are going to state something that you believe is true then at least back it up with fact. If you want to know who these officers are, wouldn’t you want to talk to them and ask them what nationality they have in their families? Wouldn’t this be some important information before you assume that they are racial profiling. How do you know that the video was erased? How do you know that it was not just a problem with the equipment? I looked at the history of the Davis police department and found that they have had many problems with electrical equipment due to the use of cellular signals that this equipment works off of. It’s the same with anyone who owns a cell phone in Davis. They will tell you that they get better reception outside of the city than in it. One last thing, how is it racial profiling if this individual did have something wrong with his/her vehicle? What was the reason for the stop? I have received a ticket before; there is a section on the ticket that states the vehicle code that was broken. Which was it? Why hasn’t that been stated? Should the police just bypass someone who has done something against California law just because they might be a different color? When they see someone murdering someone, steeling something or simply speeding down the road should they just look away because they are not of the same race? There are still a lot of questions to be answered before racial profiling can be the title of this blog.
Once again the excuse is unfounded as to why the video is not being posted. If we don’t have the Police video then why can’t we view the home video if it holds such compelling evidence of footage and audio that it would end the question of whether or not profiling took place. You say that you have looked into the diversity of the officers, what were the results? How many of them have diverse families? What culture are their families? If you are going to state something that you believe is true then at least back it up with fact. If you want to know who these officers are, wouldn’t you want to talk to them and ask them what nationality they have in their families? Wouldn’t this be some important information before you assume that they are racial profiling. How do you know that the video was erased? How do you know that it was not just a problem with the equipment? I looked at the history of the Davis police department and found that they have had many problems with electrical equipment due to the use of cellular signals that this equipment works off of. It’s the same with anyone who owns a cell phone in Davis. They will tell you that they get better reception outside of the city than in it. One last thing, how is it racial profiling if this individual did have something wrong with his/her vehicle? What was the reason for the stop? I have received a ticket before; there is a section on the ticket that states the vehicle code that was broken. Which was it? Why hasn’t that been stated? Should the police just bypass someone who has done something against California law just because they might be a different color? When they see someone murdering someone, steeling something or simply speeding down the road should they just look away because they are not of the same race? There are still a lot of questions to be answered before racial profiling can be the title of this blog.
The most basic reason that the video has not been posted is that we do not have permission to do so.
Why were they pulled over? The officer about halfway through said they had an obstructed license plate on the rear of the car. This explanation is difficult to reconcile with the facts given that the police vehicle approached from the front and made a u-turn behind the vehicle and second, there is no obstruction. No citation was given. That to me is a very telling fact and it is a consistent that people (mostly minorities) are consistently pulled over, questioned, and not cited and not warned.
The most basic reason that the video has not been posted is that we do not have permission to do so.
Why were they pulled over? The officer about halfway through said they had an obstructed license plate on the rear of the car. This explanation is difficult to reconcile with the facts given that the police vehicle approached from the front and made a u-turn behind the vehicle and second, there is no obstruction. No citation was given. That to me is a very telling fact and it is a consistent that people (mostly minorities) are consistently pulled over, questioned, and not cited and not warned.
The most basic reason that the video has not been posted is that we do not have permission to do so.
Why were they pulled over? The officer about halfway through said they had an obstructed license plate on the rear of the car. This explanation is difficult to reconcile with the facts given that the police vehicle approached from the front and made a u-turn behind the vehicle and second, there is no obstruction. No citation was given. That to me is a very telling fact and it is a consistent that people (mostly minorities) are consistently pulled over, questioned, and not cited and not warned.
The most basic reason that the video has not been posted is that we do not have permission to do so.
Why were they pulled over? The officer about halfway through said they had an obstructed license plate on the rear of the car. This explanation is difficult to reconcile with the facts given that the police vehicle approached from the front and made a u-turn behind the vehicle and second, there is no obstruction. No citation was given. That to me is a very telling fact and it is a consistent that people (mostly minorities) are consistently pulled over, questioned, and not cited and not warned.