Meet Maria Grijalva, Dean Johansson’s Answer to the DPOA

Maria Grijalva pumps her fist during a 2016 protest
Maria Grijalva pumps her fist during a 2016 protest

In the surprisingly contentious Yolo County District Attorney’s race, many were stunned when the Davis Police Officers Association dumped in over $16,000 to attempt to reelect incumbent Jeff Reisig.  But not gaining as much attention are the efforts of Maria Grijalva, who has donated over $25,000 to Dean Johansson.

But this isn’t a deep pocketed donor trying to influence the race through big money.  Instead, this is a woman of modest means, who lives in a working class neighborhood in Broderick, West Sacramento, who is hoping to make some change.

“I gave money because money is required to run a campaign,” she told the Vanguard.  “Especially, to start momentum.  The campaign had no money.”

She explained, “I had been waiting for almost 10 years for someone to run against Reisig.  This was/is a rare window of opportunity.”

The Dean Johansson campaign is grassroots to the core, with a small and dedicated group committed to getting him elected.  What they may lack in campaign experience, they make up in resolve and dedication.  The movement has grown, but one thing that it lacked was resources.

Maria Grijalva explained, “I figured pouring money was the solution, hoping community & volunteer momentum would gather….  I wasn’t going to let the campaign lose, trip themselves up, so I provided resources (signs, flyers, billboard, TV, commercial, money, etc.) to the campaign before they anticipated the need.”

When I first met Maria Grijalva it was in Broderick two years ago, and she had families who sons were being prosecuted as adults in trumped-up gang cases that allowed the DA to direct file them as adults.  Ultimately, most ended up back in the juvenile system, but not after time in custody, over six months, and pending charges.

She then ran for West Sacramento City Council, taking on the Cabaldon machine, but not faring well at the polls.

She put away some money through shred investment in real estate.  Prior to the 2008 crash, she had five rental properties, but lost it all during the crash including her own home.  She had to start anew in 2009, purchasing her West Sacramento home.  She paid it off completely in 2017 by renting out the bedrooms.

“I got a loan against my house and purchased an outdated house in Rancho Cordova with the loan. I updated the house and flipped it,” she said.

She pulled aside $30,000, wanting to run for County Board of Education.  But she decided that “getting rid of Reisig and keeping kids out of jails (was) more important.”  With the emergence of Dean Johansson, she explained, “My campaign for County Board of Education suddenly was not important.”

Ms. Grijalva explained, “I donated (this money) because I witnessed Reisig manipulate bureaucratic paperwork (paper tiger) to imprison innocent adolescent boys who were only guilty of petty infractions.”

She continued, “I saw them face million dollar bails for petty infractions and sit in jail for over a year waiting for a trial (I watched hearings get postponed over and over), boys facing strikes, life sentences. I saw these boys age while in jail from a young boy with baby fat still on their cheeks, I saw them grow in height, and also saw the baby fat leave their face as I saw a young angry man evolve.”

Maria Grijalva believes that Jeff Reisig “has used his seat for political gain starting with the gang injunction.”

She says he has a history of being corrupt.  She cites the way the first gang injunction was handled.  They served a single member of the alleged gang under the theory that he would let the other members of the gang know.

The ACLU challenged the injunction as unconstitutional because the individuals covered under the gang injunction weren’t given notice that the DA was seeking to impose it.

Judge Thomas Warriner, a Yolo County judge at the time in 2005, refused to allow the ACLU’s suit to go forward because their clients denied gang affiliation, thus he ruled they had no right to challenge the injunction in court.

That ruling was overturned by the US Third Circuit Court of Appeals in 2007.  They ruled, “To say appellants have no standing to attack the injunction unless they incriminate themselves by admitting that they are gang members is not reasonable.”

Like many, when she purchased her home in the gang injunction zone on Michigan Blvd., she had never heard of the gang injunction and the real estate agent never mentioned it.

It is not just about the gang injunction – although that has clearly inspired a lot of her advocacy and activism.  She sees Jeff Reisig as a “bully.”

She said, “There is a lot of information out there but the community does not know about his corrupt ways; by spending on Dean it is my hope the public becomes informed of what is happening to their neighbors. All families are subject to his tyranny. Reisig is not a public servant. He refuses to speak to the public. He refused our invitations to debate and discuss his policies in an opening setting by the WS & Davis LWV [League of Women Voters], except for the Woodland League (controlled) forum.

“He finds joy in charging adolescent boys as an adults. He doesn’t have any sons, so he has no empathy as a father. His policies are not in sync with the voters. He ignores data and statistics.”

Mr. Reisig’s policies have had a devastating impact on her neighborhood.

She said, “There are no teenagers in my neighborhood.”  She said, “Our boys are locked up before they get a chance to become young men. You don’t see adolescent boys playing in a park around here, or riding bikes because it is/was illegal for three or more boys to congregate. We are not allowed to wear 49er T-shirts because it contains red. We are not allowed to wear any amount of red in our clothing because we are subject to a Stop & Search under the gang injunction order. Our civil rights have been violated constantly under Reisig’s gang injunction.”

She said, “The impact is that these kids walk out of prison angry men, ready to let off their anger on a white person. It’s a vicious cycle.”

It’s one in which she is doing her part, in hopes that it will end.

—David M. Greenwald reporting


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    1. Ken

      That is a value dependent statement. If your net worth is $26,000 and you decide to donate $25,000 to a campaign because it is that important to you, the statement could be very accurate.

      1. If your net worth is $26,000 and you decide to donate $25,000 to a campaign . . . 

        I gave about .01% of my net worth to Larry Guenther’s campaign for City Council.  If I spend 96% of my net worth on a campaign contribution, it’s not a campaign contribution, it’s a vendetta.

        1. More likely someone like George Soros funneled some money into your account with the understanding that you would spend it for the great cause.

    2. Ken, I am Maria’s daughter and I can assure you she is of modest means. Swing by her house and say hello. You can see for yourself. She is living off her retirement as a state worker.

  1. You don’t see adolescent boys playing in a park around here, or riding bikes because it is/was illegal for three or more boys to congregate. We are not allowed to wear 49er T-shirts because it contains red. We are not allowed to wear any amount of red in our clothing because we are subject to a Stop & Search under the gang injunction order. Our civil rights have been violated constantly under Reisig’s gang injunction.”

    Before anyone decides to challenge this particular portion of Ms. Grijalva’s statement, I want to support this. At the Reisig sponsored Citizen’s Academy which I attended several years ago, during the session devoted to gang activity, these particular measures were confirmed by the DAs representative gang expert.

    Whether you see these as good steps to take, or oppression of a neighborhood is dependent on perspective. My point is only that they are accurate or at least were at that time.

  2. I have met Maria several times.  She is active in the League of Women Voters in West Sacramento and has been working to restart the LWV Chapter in Davis.  I have been impressed with her energy and her effectiveness.  $25,000 is putting your money where your mouth is!!

        1. If you are not involved in gangs nor crime, you have little reason to fear the cops.  However, if you walk down the street in most of the neighborhoods with the most complaints of abuse by the police, you would have many reasons to fear the gangs and criminals.

          There is some great idiocy in this new anti-law enforcement pro-criminal meme of gang enhancements being unfair in that the critics ignore or are completely blind to the benefits to those neighborhoods and the kids growing up in them that the police and DA work to destroy the benefit of gang membership relative to gang member assessment of potential benefits vs costs.   Basically weaker law enforcement of gangs will result in more gangs and greater gang crime and violence.

          Gang enhancements came about for this reason… after growing gang crime and the increase loss of life as gang members would kill each other for a bad look.   We should have near zero tolerance for gangs if we are serious about saving the lives of young people in these troubled communities.

        2. Uh.  No it is not demonstrably false.  It is false to make the claim that there is reason to fear the cops if you are not in a gang and/or involved in crime.

          Reading a good article on law enforcement using AI to help them target areas and people for having a better chance of catching criminals before they commit crimes.  Guess what?… AI is apparently racist based on the outcomes.

          1. Yes there is a reason that people have to fear police officers. It is false to say if you simply obey the law, that the police will leave you alone. Watch the video of Eduardo Letellier having the officer walk up and punch him in the face and then lie on the stand. There is a reason that officer Bellamy is no longer with DPD. As it turns out not only did Mr. Letellier not resist, he was also acquitted of the crime he was accused of. He is not the only example. What you are saying is false.

        3. I directed a big data center in my career.  When the mainframe went down there were people criticizing me that the computer service was unreliable. Then I started reporting metrics of percentage uptime and meantime between failures.  When computer users saw 99.98% uptime and average of 8 months between failures, they stopped complaining.

          I think you and others have the same problem. You can always find a bad cop story to exploit.  By there are millions of law enforcement transactions a year, and the percentage that go bad given the crap the cops have to deal with is really a pittance and do not at all rise to the level to back your claim that people are justified in fear of the cops… unless they are criminals and living primarily where there is higher than average crime.

          1. Except the problem is that you said that people who are not committing crimes have nothing to fear. I just demonstrated that this was false. You can’t even refute my example.

        4. I’m not a criminal. I fear the police. I’m a combat veteran with a brain injury.

          They shot me in the neck with a taser while I was being handcuffed…without even telling me why they wanted to speak with me/detain me.

          They arrested me for Obstruction of an Executive Officer and DUI after shooting me in the neck with the taser and cycling it twice for fun. I had to post bail to get out of jail, to support two foster kids. They lied about how many times they cycled the taser in my neck. They told their buddies they were scared I was trying to steal their police car.

          They told the DMV I refused a chemical test, so I had to go to several DMV hearings to keep my license, which I won. They got a warrant to draw my blood, even though I willfully submitted to the test at the hospital.

          The arrest was April 2017. I went to court 3 times to be arraigned. The judge exonerated my bail the second court appearance. They didn’t know when they would charge me and told me I was free to go, they would send a notice via mail if I needed to come back.

          I received notice of my new arraignment date of June 4th, 2018. OVER A YEAR after being arrested. June 4th – Dept 1. 930 AM.

          Guess who I’m voting for?

  3. That originally wasn’t her money she contributed.  Finding out where it came from might be difficult, but might result in more work for DA Reisig.

    1. Absolutely that is how she got it! The Sacramento County Assessor’s tax records are public. You can she how much she bought and sold if for. This can easily be quashed by swinging by and saying hello! Just this past week she held a community BBQ.

  4. http://fox40.com/2016/10/12/west-sac-mayor-calls-council-candidate-bat-s-crazy/

    She must have done a fine job raising children that were upstanding citizens who just made a little mistake joining a gang and robbing several pizza deliveries.   That Reisig is sure a bully preventing subsequent robberies that could have easily resulted in someone getting seriously hurt or killed.

    Again we have this absurd making victims out of criminals and denigrating those that have a professional role to enforce the law.

    Thinking logical problem-solver about the situation where these lower income neighborhoods have a higher incidence of fatherless households or otherwise have households where the parents have a greater likelihood of personal struggles that leave less time and attention for their kids… and they also have (surprise, surprise) a higher incidence of criminals and crime and more corresponding attention by law enforcement to keep everyone within and outside of these neighborhoods safe by enforcing the law… it appears to me that the advocates for these criminals as victims of law enforcement are slowly getting to a point where they are going to have to admit that they are really demanding affirmative action law enforcement.   In other words a sort of reverse racial or class-based profiling where the minority and/or the poor get less attention, many second chances and more lenient sentencing.   Seems like instead of coming clean with this vision, the supporters of Dean want to insert a soft-on-crime, anti-law enforcement activist who will ignore the laws they don’t like and aggressively pursue those they do.

    1. Jeff M, I am Maria’s daughter and she did do a great job raising me. Yes, she was a single Mother raising 3 children alone, but she did her best with what was thrown our way. My brother is a successful business owner in Colorado and I’m in my last semester at CSUS working on a BA in Poltical Science and minoring in Chicano/Latino Studies. I’ve been accepted to Lincoln Law in Sacramento. Our younger brother still lives with our mom as he has a developmental condition. This is why she is active with National Alliance on Mental Illness.
      Please don’t bash my mom. She is doing her best to make a difference in her community. She really cares. Swing by to talk to her in person.
       

    2. Jeff M, As I stated in another post below, I am Maria’s daughter and she did do a great job raising me. Yes, she was a single Mother raising 3 children alone, but she did her best with what was thrown our way. My brother is a successful business owner in Colorado and I’m in my last semester at CSUS working on a BA in Poltical Science and minoring in Chicano/Latino Studies. I’ve been accepted to Lincoln Law in Sacramento. Our younger brother still lives with our mom as he has a developmental condition. This is why she is active with National Alliance on Mental Illness.
      If you take issue with the candidate, then vote accordingly.
      Please don’t bash my mom. She is doing her best to make a difference in her community. She really cares. Swing by to talk to her in person. Maybe you can have a conversation about issues as neighbors and I am sure you will find that your belief are not so different.
       

      1. I have two sons.  If they did what these boys did, I would support having them punished at the full extent of the law.

        There are moral lines that should not be crossed.  Parents need to be teaching their kids that they will suffer the consequences of a potentially destroyed life if they cross those lines.

        Your mother blaming the DA and making victims out of her son(s) is a sign that she was not setting the line and is still not setting the line.

        I would love my sons the same if they did something like this, but I would not send a message that they were treated unfairly by the law.  The law was the law before they broke it.  Robbing another person… threatening them with physical harm… even without the gang membership… is WAY below the moral line and deserving of significant punishment.  We are all lucky, and your brother(s) are lucky, that the DA stopped them before they ended up physically harming someone with their theft.

        1. “I have two sons.  If they did what these boys did, I would support having them punished at the full extent of the law.”

          If they did what these boys did?

          If they did what you think these boys did?

          If they did what the DA said these boys did?

          The problem here is that these are three different things that you are treating as though they were synonymous.

      2. Jeff, you are entitled to your opinion, but you know nothing about our family. The sons she is referring to in the article are the boys in the community, not her own.

        Please go back and re-read the article. It would be a shame if your sons were to follow your example of disparaging a women you know nothing about.

        How you made the leap from my mother’s civic engagement to you being victimized by revise racism is baffling.

        You seem to be confusing civil discourse with making unfounded and ignorant statements. Let’s hope your sons are able to overcome your short comings.

        1. I was using the “son(s)” rhetorically.

          My sons will be fine with all my shortcomings which thankfully do not include excusing law breaking that harms others.

          Don’t have a clue what you mean by “being victimized by reverse racism”.   A racist is a racist… even those that keep using the term “white” or “whites” in their claims.

        2. Let’s hope they [your sons] are ok. Not just for their own sakes, but for the rest of us who will have to engage with them.

          I ask that you take a moment to educate yourself on the history of race, racism and the term “white”, which seemed to be a good enough term for the U.S. Supreme Court.

          Let me empart some wisdom on you where obviously your parents did not. It is easy to judge others until you walk a mile in their shoes.

          “In every situation we get to make the decision whether we want to add hurt or add good.” Don’t we have enough hurt in this world? Why not make the choice to add good? I bet you can do it.

          I believe in you!

  5. Check out the West Sac News Ledger article dated April 18, 2018,  “In an historic vote, Washington Unified School District to convert to single member district elections”

    — the article lists MARIA GRIJALVA as the “lead plaintiff” in a lawsuit against the school district… it also says that based on this lawsuit damages are limited to $30,000 and if the district did not convert, damages in the millions could occur.

    I have never seen a person or an association list or detail the ways that one came up with money given to a candidate… again the Vanguard does no digging, no legitimate reporting, and fails to provide the real story.

     

     

      1. For the record YOU know who my husband is… great job at investigating. Officer Trn has worked in Davis for 20 years— yes, as an Officer… The profession you constantly bash on your illegitimate news site. He has taken an oath to protect all the citizens of Davis, including you and other members of this forum that publicly decry them.

        So your story here is that the POA gave money to a candidate they support— a candidate that supports victims and prosecuted criminals that set innocent people up and assault them, rob them, etc. Are you really that shocked that ALL the police associations support DA Reisig.

        The real story is that you are trying desperately to uncover some sinister activities among the police when you actually make your money enflaming stories about brutality and heinous treatment of juveniles. The ‘picnic day 5’ is a perfect example of this— give me a break, you equate the defendents to wrongfully accused men who were incarcerated for murder.

        I feel bad for citizens of Davis— they are scared of the truth, they have to try and make this election some national story…it’s not that. Period.

        You also know I was a CSI in west sac for over a decade…but those robberies, involving all 9 innocent victims, that was no big deal. Hope the victims of those cases and the citizens who read this blog understand that you don’t have their best interests in mind.

        Next time you see Officer Trn, I hope you thank him for his service and keeping you and your community safe.

         

        1. give me a break, you equate the defendents to wrongfully accused men who were incarcerated for murder.

          Over the top, (or below the bottom) big time!  Guilty of the same hyperbole as you accuse another of… both wrong!  “Picnic Day 5” is a BS story on both sides… no innocents, no righteous policing… bad day at black rock… ‘stupids’ enough to go around… at best, nuances, degrees of responsibility… we need to learn, and move on… IMHO…

          I’ve seen drunk detectives (not in Davis, Bay Area) investigating murders (at 1 pm)… police officers are not gods, nor are they devils… there are some who are exemplary, some who should be relieved of their position… most are like all of us… human, and trying to do our best… Davis PD has had its share of greats, and scoundrels…

          As to the latter,  I repeat two incidents of where Davis PD individuals were “weird”… a bank robbery, where all accounts said the suspects were Black, and Davis PD pulling two White teenagers over “on suspicion” of the crime… detained and questioned for ~ 10 minutes… one of the white teenagers was later pulled over for no apparent reason, accussed him of having a false license sticker, then the officer had it obliterated (sticker) so there was no defense except asserting that there was no ‘evidence’… thatofficer “left” Davis PD… he was well known as an AH by those who worked with him.

          Feel free to live in a “black and white” world… but it isn’t real…

        2. give me a break, you equate the defendents to wrongfully accused men who were incarcerated for murder.

          Over the top, (or below the bottom) big time!  Guilty of the same hyperbole as you accuse another of… both wrong!  “Picnic Day 5” is a BS story on both sides… no innocents, no righteous policing… bad day at black rock… ‘stupids’ enough to go around… at best, nuances, degrees of responsibility… we need to learn, and move on… IMHO…

          I’ve seen drunk detectives (not in Davis, Bay Area) investigating murders (at 1 pm)… police officers are not gods, nor are they devils… there are some who are exemplary, some who should be relieved of their position… most are like all of us… human, and trying to do our best… Davis PD has had its share of greats, and scoundrels…

          As to the latter,  I repeat two incidents of where Davis PD individuals were “weird”… a bank robbery, where all accounts said the suspects were Black, and Davis PD pulling two White teenagers over “on suspicion” of the crime… detained and questioned for ~ 10 minutes… one of the white teenagers was later pulled over for no apparent reason, accussed him of having a false license sticker, then the officer had it obliterated (sticker) so there was no defense except asserting that there was no ‘evidence’… that officer “left” Davis PD… he was well known as an AH by those who worked with him.

          Feel free to live in a “black and white” world… but it isn’t real…

        3. For the record, Ruth, I like your husband. He’s always been friendly when I’ve seen him. However, I find it ironic that in the case of the DPOA, it’s they gave money to a candidate they support, but you can’t allow for reciprocal to be true as well – Maria gave money for a candidate she supports.

        4. I find it ironic DG that YOU are friends with Dean or in your words, you have known him for a long time, and you know about ALL his problems and issues and you continue to purport that he is the best choice for DA of Yolo County— your articles are all slanted, they highlight people who are telling their story the way that they want it heard— leaving lots of facts out. And you are making money off of all this— while the communities of YOLO CO are at risk of losing public safety… and yes, In my opinion. If Dean gets elected, Public Safety, as we know it today under DA Reisig, is at risk.

        5. “And you are making money off of all this”

          Thats laughable.

          Are people in Philadelphia less safe with Krasner?  Too soon to tell I suppose. There’s nothing in the data to suggest Yolo is safer due to Reisigs policies.

    1. Hi Ruth, I am Maria’s daughter and she did do a great job raising me. Yes, she was a single Mother raising 3 children alone, but she did her best with what was thrown our way. My brother is a successful business owner in Colorado and I’m in my last semester at CSUS working on a BA in Poltical Science and minoring in Chicano/Latino Studies. I’ve been accepted to Lincoln Law in Sacramento. Our younger brother still lives with our mom as he has a developmental condition. This is why she is active with National Alliance on Mental Illness.

      Please don’t bash my mom. She is doing her best to make a difference in her community. She really cares. Swing by to talk to her in person.

      1. The person who ‘bashed’ your Mom is “Jeff M.” — see comments above. Not sure why you are replying to me and not him.  Making a difference in the Community is great, as long as it’s positive. If you think suing the school district is positive then that’s your opinion. I agree that representation from all districts is important but I have never seen or heard of our school board not caring or being equitable with every school in West Sac. Period.

        As you know freedom of speech goes both way and as you will learn in law school, victims have rights too— unfortunately victims is not who DJ is advocating for— and that’s what I have spent my life doing and that’s why I support DA Reisig.

        Please don’t twist my words…and don’t think WE all don’t have hard lives.

        1. She told me that litigation was never filed. She threatened it to get West Sacramento to comply with the California Voting Rights Act. All she sent was a demand letter. She complied, she never filed a suit. I fail to see the problem.

        2. Ruth, I meant to reply to yout and Jeff M’s post. If your issue is with Dean Johansson then take out your frustrations there. I am not sure how targeting my mom will exact the ends you are determined to achieve.

          The protections afforded under freedom of speech do not extend to slander nor hate speech.

          In our advocacy for that which we believe, we must remain mindful not to become the evil we disdain.

          Take a moment to reflect.

          Peace be upon you.

           

      2. What bashing are you talking about? So much confusion amongst Dean supporters—

        My point is that someone needs to stand up for victims and the police who keep us all safe. No one values or appreciates law enforcement or prosecutors until you need them.  Don’t twist my words… I’m sure you are very intelligent considering you are in law school— best of luck to you.

  6. DG- the news article written by Carlos Alcala says, she is the lead plaintiff represented by Scott Rafferty. — a person who sues school districts 30,000 to “comply” with CVRA.  It’s a scam.  Districts have to comply or they faces insurmountable legal fees. When all is said and done money is being taken away from the children… it’s being spent on complying… way more than just the 30k. So who suffers? The kids, I think so. Who gets the 30k?

    1. Yes, Scott Raffery sent a demand letter on March 3, 2018. But it was only a demand letter, there is no litigation, you can look it up and see that there is no case. The demand is to change to a single-member district and avoid litigation. Again, what’s wrong with this, you’ve never specified?

      Here is what he wrote (first paragraph of a 16 page demand letter): “In 2001, the Legislature determined that the use of at-large elections (by cities and districts that are characterized by racially polarized voting) dilutes the influence of minority voting blocs. I represent the Latino Information and Resource Network, the Broderick Area Homeowners’ Association and their members, including Maria Grijalva, who are committed to advocate for the interests of all minority voters. We give notice of our belief, supported by evidence, that at-large voting dilutes minority electoral influence in the election of board members to the Washington Unified School District (WUSD), thus violating Elections Code Section 14047. The remedy is to change from at-large election to election from single-member districts (or ”trustee areas”). The Board should consider this advice as an opportunity to engage the community in a collaborative process that avoids adversary litigation.”

      1. Keep reading… you will find the 30,000 amount, just to comply. Show me evidence that the school board is not fair… and that’s a template he sends everywhere— you can’t just show one paragraph…report the facts.

        just trying to get people to pay attention…and you only seem to care about certain police officers and their Alledged wrongdoings. YOU are risking public safety in your own community. And if Dean promised you a job, you should probably report on that too.

         

        1. For someone who claims I fail to investigate, you certainly are not shy about making baseless allegations.  Dean’s never promised me a job and I have one I happen to like.

  7. Let’s see… if elected, Johansson will realize ~ $ 90,000 more in total comp.

    Reisig makes ~ $292,000 (total comp).

    Am thinking this basically isn’t about “service” for either candidate.

      1. Then, delete it… not fitting your narrative, therefore “off-topic”, right?

        Money has nothing to do with their candidacies, and the fierceness of their contention… $90,000/yr X 4 years, heck that’s just “beer money”… right…

        It’s all about service , and safety for the community, and righting “wrongs”… right…

        And, BOTH candidates feel so strongly about the moral, ethical,and service values they espouse, they’d do it for half those amounts… right…

        $16 k and $30 k is “beer money” in comparison…

        Neither candidate rises to the level of a “messiah”…

        1. That doesn’t mean that money is driving their decision to run.  I don’t think either of them are primarily driven by money.

        2. You are entitled to your opinion, as I am to mine.

          Maybe you need to acquire some sodium pentathol, administer it, and ask them their true motivations…

          They may qualify for 3% @ 50 under PERS… pretty much for sure 2.5 @ 55… do the math…

  8. mud·sling·ing

    ˈmədˌsliNGiNG/

    noun
    informal

    noun: mud-slinging; noun: mudslinging

    the use of insults and accusations, especially unjust ones, with the aim of damaging the reputation of an opponent.

    A staple in Yolo county, whether in an election or just trying to keep out new neighbors, it’s the go to tactic.

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