Commentary: DJUSD Cut of Climate Position Threatens To Set Back Efforts by Two Decades

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Within the course of cutting $4 to $4.5 million from the school district’s budget, you know that the cuts are going to – for the most part -be deep and painful. In fact, that is one reason I have mostly avoided hitting this topic head-on. I have a full understanding that there are going to be painful cuts for all.

That being said, with proposals now on the table, I think we also have to think about the bigger picture and along those lines I have some concerns about some of the cuts.
However, I will start with perhaps some good news, without being too flippant or speaking too far out of school. On the other hand, this is the Vanguard and people have perhaps come to expect a bit of irreverence and even honesty that you will not find elsewhere.

Personnel matters are tricky, in fact, as I would suggest, I think state law goes too far to protect the privacy of top level employees. It is one thing to protect the private records of assistants and custodians and other classified employees. It is another thing not to disclose that a top level public official such as a Superintendent or City Manager has been fired and not explain why that occurred. When you have huge amount of responsibility and large salary, I do not think you have the same privacy rights as those making $30,000 per year.

Yesterday’s Davis Enterprise reveals that Ginni Davis, the associate superintendent for educational services is leaving the school district.

In a somewhat contradictory release at first it says

“she decided last month not to renew her contract when it expires in June. Her decision is becoming public now, as part of the district’s plans to reduce staffing in many areas to correct a growing budget deficit.”

She’s quoted as saying:

“I’m part of that proposed $200,000 in reductions among district office administrators.”

As is often the case there is something happening between those lines.

While I cannot say for certain what happened, I do know some board members have had deep concerns about her for a good deal of time. At the end of the day however the Superintendent was going to be allowed to make his own personnel decisions. I have no direct knowledge of what happened here, but I suspect that this was not merely a budget move.

I first became aware of Ms. Davis during the case of the junior high school student who was bullied on the Harper Junior High campus largely, because he has two gay fathers. It was Ms. Davis, who became so intransigent during talks with the family that it turned from simply a complaint to a lawsuit. This was in late 2006 and early 2007.

More recently word has it that the truancy issue became a far bigger problem with the school district last fall due to decisions made from her office not to fully disclose to the school board what was occurring. Indeed, Pam Mari who was newly appointed as Director of Student Services, was hung out to dry in that meeting, believing that the board knew of this policy and she was merely providing an update for them. The board had no idea what was going on and Ms. Mari was left in a very bad position.

Finally, it was Ginni Davis who authored the resolution that opposed the Valley Oak Charter School. This resolution in December was very antagonistic and set the stage for what would happen in January. At that time, the Superintendent had to step in and put forth a large amount of work to reconcile the district’s position with those of the Charter Petitioners. Prior to that point the district was very reluctant to meet or help out with the charter petition and it seems that Ms. Davis played a large role in that as well.

At the end of the day, Board President Sheila Allen issued a statement:

“We want to thank Ginni for her leadership during these difficult times, and we wish her luck in [her] next endeavors. I think she knows a lot about the educational process; that’s a strength she brought to the position.”

I am hopeful that when this budget emergency passes, the school district will find a new associate superintendent of educational services that will work well with the new superintendent to serve all of Davis’ students.

I am less hopeful about the cut of the School Climate Coordinator position.

This position arose out of very serious concerns in this community about the “climate” on campus especially with regards to race relations and bullying. Indeed in 2004, several hundred parents and students came forward at a Davis Human Relations Commission meeting held at the Veteran’s Memorial Center to press for changes to district policy on bullying and racism.

One of the outcomes of the changes was the creation of the then part-time School Climate Coordinator position which is now held by Mel Lewis.

In the fall of 2006, in the wake of events that centered on the anti-gay harassment of a junior high school student, one of the proposals put forth was to expand the climate coordinator position to full-time.

The Vanguard wrote on November 21, 2006:

“During the meeting last week, the school board asked Mel Lewis, now the district’s School Climate Coordinator, to draw up an action plan designed to reduce or eliminate harassment not just at Harper but at all Davis schools.

Lewis at the meeting pointed out he was doing a 1.5 time job on a half-time salary. The school board seemed to agree that the Mr. Lewis needs to be better sourced as did the father of the student, Guy Fischer. Fischer said “this is a full-time problem. There are a lot of things that could be done.”

What followed in 2007 was a series of events on the Davis High School Campus and in the community that underscore the need for a continuation of that program.

Instead what we see is that as soon as the budget gets tight, this will be one of the first things that go. Nevermind the recommendations that have come from a whole variety of studies that the district has invested time and money into. Nevermind the continuing complaints about disparate treatment for students of different races with regards to discipline policy. Nevermind the stark findings of the Achievement Gap Task Force or the DHS Catalysts for Social Justice Student report. Nevermind that last year Tansey Thomas stood up and told the school board that in 1990 they had done a “Racial Climate Assessment Report” and at that time the district struggled with the same problems that they are currently struggling with. Those recommendations were put on a shelf and never acted upon. Let us shelve promising new programs such as the school ambassador program, because we simply are out of money.

I understand that we need to cut money. I also understand that we cannot cut money from core programs if possible, and that these cuts will be painful to all. But if we set ourselves back we are literally setting ourselves back another 18 years, because these programs will not come back until the next incident occurs. And, we will once again wonder why it is that we never acted upon the recommendations of the 2007 Achievement Gap Task Force just as we never acted upon the recommendations of the “Racial Climate Assessment Report.”

When we cut programs for the most vulnerable students, the students who we have long since determined are at-risk, we risk truly damaging the students.

For all of the people who have said that this school district is irresponsible and we should not approve a parcel tax until they demonstrate they have their house in order, I disagreed. I disagreed because these are students, they are kids, and I do not believe we can play politics with the education of students.

At the same time, we cannot merely cut programs for at-risk kids, because we have a budget crunch and it is “easy” (and I know it is not easy) money to cut. Too much work went into establishing this program and this position in the first place to merely throw it out the door.

We need to have the same commitment to school climate and helping at-risk kids as we have for core curriculum because for some kids, without this work and these programs, there is no core curriculum. The achievement gap will grow. Students who are at-risk will not graduate, they will not go to college, they will not succeed in life. That sounds harsh, perhaps too harsh, but in my mind that is what we are facing here.

I’m sorry, but I think we have to find a better way than to balance our budget on the backs of the most vulnerable in our schools just as at the state and federal level we cannot merely balance our budget on the backs of the poor and the working class.

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

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251 comments

  1. Want is the wrong verb, I don’t want to cut anything. I’m also a realist and understand that cuts need to occur. But there needs to be a large amount of blame placed on the governor right now because this is his fault, he is proposing something that he knows will get changed during the course of the project but schools and universities have no choice given the cycle to plan for cuts.

    To avoid dodging your question, we need to look at cuts that distribute the pain equitably and do not place the burden too heavily on the most vulnerable.

  2. Want is the wrong verb, I don’t want to cut anything. I’m also a realist and understand that cuts need to occur. But there needs to be a large amount of blame placed on the governor right now because this is his fault, he is proposing something that he knows will get changed during the course of the project but schools and universities have no choice given the cycle to plan for cuts.

    To avoid dodging your question, we need to look at cuts that distribute the pain equitably and do not place the burden too heavily on the most vulnerable.

  3. Want is the wrong verb, I don’t want to cut anything. I’m also a realist and understand that cuts need to occur. But there needs to be a large amount of blame placed on the governor right now because this is his fault, he is proposing something that he knows will get changed during the course of the project but schools and universities have no choice given the cycle to plan for cuts.

    To avoid dodging your question, we need to look at cuts that distribute the pain equitably and do not place the burden too heavily on the most vulnerable.

  4. Want is the wrong verb, I don’t want to cut anything. I’m also a realist and understand that cuts need to occur. But there needs to be a large amount of blame placed on the governor right now because this is his fault, he is proposing something that he knows will get changed during the course of the project but schools and universities have no choice given the cycle to plan for cuts.

    To avoid dodging your question, we need to look at cuts that distribute the pain equitably and do not place the burden too heavily on the most vulnerable.

  5. Kick her when she is down DPD.

    The list isn’t final and they are trying to cut all they can to retain teachers in the classroom. If they do cut the Climate Coordinator it should not surprise anyone. The new board members voted down a charter school to protect the rich against the poor so why would you be surprised to see the protection for the weak against the strong be on the block?

    One thing I mentioned when they blocked the Valley Oak Charter School is that they would move quickly to use the site and make it unavailable for a charter school. The Enterprise story also spoke about future uses of Valley Oak just as I predicted.

    In response to “what to cut.” Why not open the district to interdistrict transfers to take up the excess capacity and save the distict? Why they refuse this option shows their lack of creativity in addressing declining enrollment. This is, by the way, something they could have done with Valley Oak Charter School if they weren’t so worried about keeping the schools in the newer parts of town, where many of the trustees live, completely insulated from any impacts due to declining enrollment. While there is a risk in allowing students in from other districts the reputation of the Davis schools is such that it would not be hard to bring in students of children from the surrounding communities, many of whom have parents that work at the university, but must commute because they can’t afford to buy in Davis.

    Indifference on every level that is what the new trustees represent in my mind.

    Ron Glick

  6. Kick her when she is down DPD.

    The list isn’t final and they are trying to cut all they can to retain teachers in the classroom. If they do cut the Climate Coordinator it should not surprise anyone. The new board members voted down a charter school to protect the rich against the poor so why would you be surprised to see the protection for the weak against the strong be on the block?

    One thing I mentioned when they blocked the Valley Oak Charter School is that they would move quickly to use the site and make it unavailable for a charter school. The Enterprise story also spoke about future uses of Valley Oak just as I predicted.

    In response to “what to cut.” Why not open the district to interdistrict transfers to take up the excess capacity and save the distict? Why they refuse this option shows their lack of creativity in addressing declining enrollment. This is, by the way, something they could have done with Valley Oak Charter School if they weren’t so worried about keeping the schools in the newer parts of town, where many of the trustees live, completely insulated from any impacts due to declining enrollment. While there is a risk in allowing students in from other districts the reputation of the Davis schools is such that it would not be hard to bring in students of children from the surrounding communities, many of whom have parents that work at the university, but must commute because they can’t afford to buy in Davis.

    Indifference on every level that is what the new trustees represent in my mind.

    Ron Glick

  7. Kick her when she is down DPD.

    The list isn’t final and they are trying to cut all they can to retain teachers in the classroom. If they do cut the Climate Coordinator it should not surprise anyone. The new board members voted down a charter school to protect the rich against the poor so why would you be surprised to see the protection for the weak against the strong be on the block?

    One thing I mentioned when they blocked the Valley Oak Charter School is that they would move quickly to use the site and make it unavailable for a charter school. The Enterprise story also spoke about future uses of Valley Oak just as I predicted.

    In response to “what to cut.” Why not open the district to interdistrict transfers to take up the excess capacity and save the distict? Why they refuse this option shows their lack of creativity in addressing declining enrollment. This is, by the way, something they could have done with Valley Oak Charter School if they weren’t so worried about keeping the schools in the newer parts of town, where many of the trustees live, completely insulated from any impacts due to declining enrollment. While there is a risk in allowing students in from other districts the reputation of the Davis schools is such that it would not be hard to bring in students of children from the surrounding communities, many of whom have parents that work at the university, but must commute because they can’t afford to buy in Davis.

    Indifference on every level that is what the new trustees represent in my mind.

    Ron Glick

  8. Kick her when she is down DPD.

    The list isn’t final and they are trying to cut all they can to retain teachers in the classroom. If they do cut the Climate Coordinator it should not surprise anyone. The new board members voted down a charter school to protect the rich against the poor so why would you be surprised to see the protection for the weak against the strong be on the block?

    One thing I mentioned when they blocked the Valley Oak Charter School is that they would move quickly to use the site and make it unavailable for a charter school. The Enterprise story also spoke about future uses of Valley Oak just as I predicted.

    In response to “what to cut.” Why not open the district to interdistrict transfers to take up the excess capacity and save the distict? Why they refuse this option shows their lack of creativity in addressing declining enrollment. This is, by the way, something they could have done with Valley Oak Charter School if they weren’t so worried about keeping the schools in the newer parts of town, where many of the trustees live, completely insulated from any impacts due to declining enrollment. While there is a risk in allowing students in from other districts the reputation of the Davis schools is such that it would not be hard to bring in students of children from the surrounding communities, many of whom have parents that work at the university, but must commute because they can’t afford to buy in Davis.

    Indifference on every level that is what the new trustees represent in my mind.

    Ron Glick

  9. There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.

  10. There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.

  11. There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.

  12. There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.

  13. DPD,

    Could you address the issue of inter-district transfers? I know of someone who works in Davis but lives in Woodland and wants their child to attend a Davis school. From what I understand the Davis school district is willing to take the child but the Woodland school district does not want to let the child go because of loss of attendance funds. I suspect this would be a problem with all neighboring school districts. Is Davis reluctant to take transfers or are the other districts reluctant to let them go?

  14. DPD,

    Could you address the issue of inter-district transfers? I know of someone who works in Davis but lives in Woodland and wants their child to attend a Davis school. From what I understand the Davis school district is willing to take the child but the Woodland school district does not want to let the child go because of loss of attendance funds. I suspect this would be a problem with all neighboring school districts. Is Davis reluctant to take transfers or are the other districts reluctant to let them go?

  15. DPD,

    Could you address the issue of inter-district transfers? I know of someone who works in Davis but lives in Woodland and wants their child to attend a Davis school. From what I understand the Davis school district is willing to take the child but the Woodland school district does not want to let the child go because of loss of attendance funds. I suspect this would be a problem with all neighboring school districts. Is Davis reluctant to take transfers or are the other districts reluctant to let them go?

  16. DPD,

    Could you address the issue of inter-district transfers? I know of someone who works in Davis but lives in Woodland and wants their child to attend a Davis school. From what I understand the Davis school district is willing to take the child but the Woodland school district does not want to let the child go because of loss of attendance funds. I suspect this would be a problem with all neighboring school districts. Is Davis reluctant to take transfers or are the other districts reluctant to let them go?

  17. I’ve been told that if the school board wants to fire anyone from a teaching position for the following year they have to give them notice by mid-March. In the past that has meant that they spew a storm of pink slips in mid-March – for anybody who *might* not be retained the next year – and then reprieve some of them when a final decision is made.

    Seems like torture for those involved. Do I have a job in the Fall or not? Um, guess I’ll find out in August!

    If this is not correct information perhaps from someone who’s directly involved can clarify.

  18. I’ve been told that if the school board wants to fire anyone from a teaching position for the following year they have to give them notice by mid-March. In the past that has meant that they spew a storm of pink slips in mid-March – for anybody who *might* not be retained the next year – and then reprieve some of them when a final decision is made.

    Seems like torture for those involved. Do I have a job in the Fall or not? Um, guess I’ll find out in August!

    If this is not correct information perhaps from someone who’s directly involved can clarify.

  19. I’ve been told that if the school board wants to fire anyone from a teaching position for the following year they have to give them notice by mid-March. In the past that has meant that they spew a storm of pink slips in mid-March – for anybody who *might* not be retained the next year – and then reprieve some of them when a final decision is made.

    Seems like torture for those involved. Do I have a job in the Fall or not? Um, guess I’ll find out in August!

    If this is not correct information perhaps from someone who’s directly involved can clarify.

  20. I’ve been told that if the school board wants to fire anyone from a teaching position for the following year they have to give them notice by mid-March. In the past that has meant that they spew a storm of pink slips in mid-March – for anybody who *might* not be retained the next year – and then reprieve some of them when a final decision is made.

    Seems like torture for those involved. Do I have a job in the Fall or not? Um, guess I’ll find out in August!

    If this is not correct information perhaps from someone who’s directly involved can clarify.

  21. One additional thing, the loss of Music progams, Science and PE specialists and librarians will also have an impact on the learning that goes on. The schools in Davis will take a long time to recover from all these cuts should they be implemented. What is so sad is that letting in kids on interdistrict transfer could soften the blows by shoring up the budget. By refusing to let in kids from outside the district they are killing the goose that lays the golden eggducation for their own kids.

    Ron

  22. One additional thing, the loss of Music progams, Science and PE specialists and librarians will also have an impact on the learning that goes on. The schools in Davis will take a long time to recover from all these cuts should they be implemented. What is so sad is that letting in kids on interdistrict transfer could soften the blows by shoring up the budget. By refusing to let in kids from outside the district they are killing the goose that lays the golden eggducation for their own kids.

    Ron

  23. One additional thing, the loss of Music progams, Science and PE specialists and librarians will also have an impact on the learning that goes on. The schools in Davis will take a long time to recover from all these cuts should they be implemented. What is so sad is that letting in kids on interdistrict transfer could soften the blows by shoring up the budget. By refusing to let in kids from outside the district they are killing the goose that lays the golden eggducation for their own kids.

    Ron

  24. One additional thing, the loss of Music progams, Science and PE specialists and librarians will also have an impact on the learning that goes on. The schools in Davis will take a long time to recover from all these cuts should they be implemented. What is so sad is that letting in kids on interdistrict transfer could soften the blows by shoring up the budget. By refusing to let in kids from outside the district they are killing the goose that lays the golden eggducation for their own kids.

    Ron

  25. The hiring of our new police chief brought effective leadership and appears to have greatly lessened the need for our Ombudsman. I believe that Hammond will have a similar effect on the “climate” of the DJUSD and the “necessity” of the Climate Position. Effective leadership is the method of choice; As Tansy suggested in her comments, issuing reports and bureaucratic strategies are really more for political consumption than results.

  26. The hiring of our new police chief brought effective leadership and appears to have greatly lessened the need for our Ombudsman. I believe that Hammond will have a similar effect on the “climate” of the DJUSD and the “necessity” of the Climate Position. Effective leadership is the method of choice; As Tansy suggested in her comments, issuing reports and bureaucratic strategies are really more for political consumption than results.

  27. The hiring of our new police chief brought effective leadership and appears to have greatly lessened the need for our Ombudsman. I believe that Hammond will have a similar effect on the “climate” of the DJUSD and the “necessity” of the Climate Position. Effective leadership is the method of choice; As Tansy suggested in her comments, issuing reports and bureaucratic strategies are really more for political consumption than results.

  28. The hiring of our new police chief brought effective leadership and appears to have greatly lessened the need for our Ombudsman. I believe that Hammond will have a similar effect on the “climate” of the DJUSD and the “necessity” of the Climate Position. Effective leadership is the method of choice; As Tansy suggested in her comments, issuing reports and bureaucratic strategies are really more for political consumption than results.

  29. The issue in interdistrict transfer is that they have to be approved by the home district and as you can understand, some of those districts are reluctant to lose their revenue.

  30. The issue in interdistrict transfer is that they have to be approved by the home district and as you can understand, some of those districts are reluctant to lose their revenue.

  31. The issue in interdistrict transfer is that they have to be approved by the home district and as you can understand, some of those districts are reluctant to lose their revenue.

  32. The issue in interdistrict transfer is that they have to be approved by the home district and as you can understand, some of those districts are reluctant to lose their revenue.

  33. DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh?

  34. DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh?

  35. DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh?

  36. DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh?

  37. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh? “

    I don’t know if they are or are not. I’m not making any argument, someone asked me what the rules were, I clarified them.

  38. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh? “

    I don’t know if they are or are not. I’m not making any argument, someone asked me what the rules were, I clarified them.

  39. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh? “

    I don’t know if they are or are not. I’m not making any argument, someone asked me what the rules were, I clarified them.

  40. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this, besides, that is not the problem for Davis. Davis should let them in and let the other districts worry about whether or not to let them go. This argument is pure nonsense, that Davis won’t let them in as a courtesy to other districts so that the other districts won’t need to be embarrassed by refusing to let them go. Huh? “

    I don’t know if they are or are not. I’m not making any argument, someone asked me what the rules were, I clarified them.

  41. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this….”

    …and,of course, this has no relevance to the Valley Oak Charter School which is open to all students from all California School Districts without the need for local approval.

  42. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this….”

    …and,of course, this has no relevance to the Valley Oak Charter School which is open to all students from all California School Districts without the need for local approval.

  43. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this….”

    …and,of course, this has no relevance to the Valley Oak Charter School which is open to all students from all California School Districts without the need for local approval.

  44. “DPD, other districts are not blocking this….”

    …and,of course, this has no relevance to the Valley Oak Charter School which is open to all students from all California School Districts without the need for local approval.

  45. Other districts are making cuts too but few are in the deep trouble that Davis is in because of declining enrollment. It would be interesting to look at a breakout of the two impacts my guess is that declining enrollment is a bigger part of the problem here in Davis leading to bigger cuts.

  46. Other districts are making cuts too but few are in the deep trouble that Davis is in because of declining enrollment. It would be interesting to look at a breakout of the two impacts my guess is that declining enrollment is a bigger part of the problem here in Davis leading to bigger cuts.

  47. Other districts are making cuts too but few are in the deep trouble that Davis is in because of declining enrollment. It would be interesting to look at a breakout of the two impacts my guess is that declining enrollment is a bigger part of the problem here in Davis leading to bigger cuts.

  48. Other districts are making cuts too but few are in the deep trouble that Davis is in because of declining enrollment. It would be interesting to look at a breakout of the two impacts my guess is that declining enrollment is a bigger part of the problem here in Davis leading to bigger cuts.

  49. If friends you know would like their children in a Davis elementary school, have them check out the Valley Oak charter web site:vocharter.org. It’s a tutition free, public charter that is planning to open in Aug. One doesn’t have to give up one’s child’s place in the home district, or get an inter district transfer, in order to be on the enrollment list for Valley Oak charter. The appeal is currently under consideration by the Yolo County Office of Education. A decision should be reached early in March.
    There’s nothing to lose.

  50. If friends you know would like their children in a Davis elementary school, have them check out the Valley Oak charter web site:vocharter.org. It’s a tutition free, public charter that is planning to open in Aug. One doesn’t have to give up one’s child’s place in the home district, or get an inter district transfer, in order to be on the enrollment list for Valley Oak charter. The appeal is currently under consideration by the Yolo County Office of Education. A decision should be reached early in March.
    There’s nothing to lose.

  51. If friends you know would like their children in a Davis elementary school, have them check out the Valley Oak charter web site:vocharter.org. It’s a tutition free, public charter that is planning to open in Aug. One doesn’t have to give up one’s child’s place in the home district, or get an inter district transfer, in order to be on the enrollment list for Valley Oak charter. The appeal is currently under consideration by the Yolo County Office of Education. A decision should be reached early in March.
    There’s nothing to lose.

  52. If friends you know would like their children in a Davis elementary school, have them check out the Valley Oak charter web site:vocharter.org. It’s a tutition free, public charter that is planning to open in Aug. One doesn’t have to give up one’s child’s place in the home district, or get an inter district transfer, in order to be on the enrollment list for Valley Oak charter. The appeal is currently under consideration by the Yolo County Office of Education. A decision should be reached early in March.
    There’s nothing to lose.

  53. I believe that every school, every program, and every child will feel the effects of the cuts that will have to be made this year.

    On Friday, a co-worker who lives in Dixon told me about the cuts that are going to occur in their District. No sports except for JV & Varsity and even then, no stipend for any coaches. Also they apparently are closing a school and laying off the teachers of one school. There is more.

    Cutting music & art is difficult because these are part of UC’s a-f requirements. Sports however is not a requirement for college admission.

    I think that anything that is not part of these a-f requirements will be considered for cuts. Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions.

  54. I believe that every school, every program, and every child will feel the effects of the cuts that will have to be made this year.

    On Friday, a co-worker who lives in Dixon told me about the cuts that are going to occur in their District. No sports except for JV & Varsity and even then, no stipend for any coaches. Also they apparently are closing a school and laying off the teachers of one school. There is more.

    Cutting music & art is difficult because these are part of UC’s a-f requirements. Sports however is not a requirement for college admission.

    I think that anything that is not part of these a-f requirements will be considered for cuts. Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions.

  55. I believe that every school, every program, and every child will feel the effects of the cuts that will have to be made this year.

    On Friday, a co-worker who lives in Dixon told me about the cuts that are going to occur in their District. No sports except for JV & Varsity and even then, no stipend for any coaches. Also they apparently are closing a school and laying off the teachers of one school. There is more.

    Cutting music & art is difficult because these are part of UC’s a-f requirements. Sports however is not a requirement for college admission.

    I think that anything that is not part of these a-f requirements will be considered for cuts. Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions.

  56. I believe that every school, every program, and every child will feel the effects of the cuts that will have to be made this year.

    On Friday, a co-worker who lives in Dixon told me about the cuts that are going to occur in their District. No sports except for JV & Varsity and even then, no stipend for any coaches. Also they apparently are closing a school and laying off the teachers of one school. There is more.

    Cutting music & art is difficult because these are part of UC’s a-f requirements. Sports however is not a requirement for college admission.

    I think that anything that is not part of these a-f requirements will be considered for cuts. Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions.

  57. “Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions. “

    That is correct but an effective program will better enable students to get to college. That’s part of what we are forgetting here I fear.

  58. “Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions. “

    That is correct but an effective program will better enable students to get to college. That’s part of what we are forgetting here I fear.

  59. “Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions. “

    That is correct but an effective program will better enable students to get to college. That’s part of what we are forgetting here I fear.

  60. “Unfortunately, school climate is not considerated in college admissions. “

    That is correct but an effective program will better enable students to get to college. That’s part of what we are forgetting here I fear.

  61. The district is considering sending Da Vinci to the vacant classrooms at Valley Oak next year? I thought the whole point was to save money by closing the facility. How will closing an elementary and then opening a high school at the same site save money? Or was this all just a ploy to get the disadvantaged students of Valley Oak out of the way for Harris, Lovenburgs, Taylors and Daleidons rich Da Vinci friends to have their own school?

  62. The district is considering sending Da Vinci to the vacant classrooms at Valley Oak next year? I thought the whole point was to save money by closing the facility. How will closing an elementary and then opening a high school at the same site save money? Or was this all just a ploy to get the disadvantaged students of Valley Oak out of the way for Harris, Lovenburgs, Taylors and Daleidons rich Da Vinci friends to have their own school?

  63. The district is considering sending Da Vinci to the vacant classrooms at Valley Oak next year? I thought the whole point was to save money by closing the facility. How will closing an elementary and then opening a high school at the same site save money? Or was this all just a ploy to get the disadvantaged students of Valley Oak out of the way for Harris, Lovenburgs, Taylors and Daleidons rich Da Vinci friends to have their own school?

  64. The district is considering sending Da Vinci to the vacant classrooms at Valley Oak next year? I thought the whole point was to save money by closing the facility. How will closing an elementary and then opening a high school at the same site save money? Or was this all just a ploy to get the disadvantaged students of Valley Oak out of the way for Harris, Lovenburgs, Taylors and Daleidons rich Da Vinci friends to have their own school?

  65. Anonymous said… 2/18/08 8:56 AM

    “There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.”

    This comment almost gets too personal for me. I think this person needs to be a little more specific in his/her comments. I can only speak directly to the orchestra program. There are 126 students spread out over two classes, at an average student-teacher ratio of 63:1. Music programs are very productive for the district. If this were an English class, such a ratio would be an outrage.

    One is an audition group, the other is available to those who don’t want or can’t (various legitimate reasons why, such as course schedule) take on a more rigorous level of performance. I don’t consider myself rich, by any means. We pay for lessons, and it’s a stretch at times.

    I value the music program in DJUSD because it promotes values of
    1) creative self-expression
    2) cooperation as a team
    3) promotes community/friendship among parents and students helps connect all of us to the school and the district
    4) defines success differently for students besides winning or losing or a numerical grade/score

    Where else will my kids get these kinds of values instilled for a very reasonable price to the district and communtiy?

    If you cut the music programs, mostly the talented/economic elite will find the resources to continue.

    If you want a class where a diverse range of students of different academic abilities, racial/ethnic/national backgrounds, socio-economic classes come together, music is a pretty good place to start.

    Orchestra has been able to offer trips at a cheaper individual cost than normal because of the economy of scale. Our fundraising efforts have increasingly been trying to include subsidies for students/families who have a harder time affording such activities. Some families come forth and accept the help. Others choose not to or opt out for other reasons. What you propose, practically, is pay to play for the music program.

    A strong, vibrant, and accessible spectrum of arts and athletics keeps more students involved in schools. In Davis w/ the presence of an overachieving culture, not all students can keep up w/ the large cohort of excellent academic performers. Unfortunately, too, many teens do not have the maturity and perspective to understand that just because they’re not the best students, they have a responsibility to themselves and others to stick with school and graduate. Athletics and arts keeps many such students involved and connected to their school. And while they’re involved w/ those programs, they stick it out through their algebra, English comp and lit, and chemistry.

    A person’s personal positive memories of high school are likelier to center around music and athletics than w/ algebra or chemistry.

    School districts who accept these broader values that I listed above have lower dropout rates, higher API, higher transition to college, lower juvenile crime. And this isn’t always tied to affluent communities.

    Personally, I’m not crazy about a HS football program, but I think it serves a very useful purpose in keep students active and occupied during after school hours.

  66. Anonymous said… 2/18/08 8:56 AM

    “There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.”

    This comment almost gets too personal for me. I think this person needs to be a little more specific in his/her comments. I can only speak directly to the orchestra program. There are 126 students spread out over two classes, at an average student-teacher ratio of 63:1. Music programs are very productive for the district. If this were an English class, such a ratio would be an outrage.

    One is an audition group, the other is available to those who don’t want or can’t (various legitimate reasons why, such as course schedule) take on a more rigorous level of performance. I don’t consider myself rich, by any means. We pay for lessons, and it’s a stretch at times.

    I value the music program in DJUSD because it promotes values of
    1) creative self-expression
    2) cooperation as a team
    3) promotes community/friendship among parents and students helps connect all of us to the school and the district
    4) defines success differently for students besides winning or losing or a numerical grade/score

    Where else will my kids get these kinds of values instilled for a very reasonable price to the district and communtiy?

    If you cut the music programs, mostly the talented/economic elite will find the resources to continue.

    If you want a class where a diverse range of students of different academic abilities, racial/ethnic/national backgrounds, socio-economic classes come together, music is a pretty good place to start.

    Orchestra has been able to offer trips at a cheaper individual cost than normal because of the economy of scale. Our fundraising efforts have increasingly been trying to include subsidies for students/families who have a harder time affording such activities. Some families come forth and accept the help. Others choose not to or opt out for other reasons. What you propose, practically, is pay to play for the music program.

    A strong, vibrant, and accessible spectrum of arts and athletics keeps more students involved in schools. In Davis w/ the presence of an overachieving culture, not all students can keep up w/ the large cohort of excellent academic performers. Unfortunately, too, many teens do not have the maturity and perspective to understand that just because they’re not the best students, they have a responsibility to themselves and others to stick with school and graduate. Athletics and arts keeps many such students involved and connected to their school. And while they’re involved w/ those programs, they stick it out through their algebra, English comp and lit, and chemistry.

    A person’s personal positive memories of high school are likelier to center around music and athletics than w/ algebra or chemistry.

    School districts who accept these broader values that I listed above have lower dropout rates, higher API, higher transition to college, lower juvenile crime. And this isn’t always tied to affluent communities.

    Personally, I’m not crazy about a HS football program, but I think it serves a very useful purpose in keep students active and occupied during after school hours.

  67. Anonymous said… 2/18/08 8:56 AM

    “There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.”

    This comment almost gets too personal for me. I think this person needs to be a little more specific in his/her comments. I can only speak directly to the orchestra program. There are 126 students spread out over two classes, at an average student-teacher ratio of 63:1. Music programs are very productive for the district. If this were an English class, such a ratio would be an outrage.

    One is an audition group, the other is available to those who don’t want or can’t (various legitimate reasons why, such as course schedule) take on a more rigorous level of performance. I don’t consider myself rich, by any means. We pay for lessons, and it’s a stretch at times.

    I value the music program in DJUSD because it promotes values of
    1) creative self-expression
    2) cooperation as a team
    3) promotes community/friendship among parents and students helps connect all of us to the school and the district
    4) defines success differently for students besides winning or losing or a numerical grade/score

    Where else will my kids get these kinds of values instilled for a very reasonable price to the district and communtiy?

    If you cut the music programs, mostly the talented/economic elite will find the resources to continue.

    If you want a class where a diverse range of students of different academic abilities, racial/ethnic/national backgrounds, socio-economic classes come together, music is a pretty good place to start.

    Orchestra has been able to offer trips at a cheaper individual cost than normal because of the economy of scale. Our fundraising efforts have increasingly been trying to include subsidies for students/families who have a harder time affording such activities. Some families come forth and accept the help. Others choose not to or opt out for other reasons. What you propose, practically, is pay to play for the music program.

    A strong, vibrant, and accessible spectrum of arts and athletics keeps more students involved in schools. In Davis w/ the presence of an overachieving culture, not all students can keep up w/ the large cohort of excellent academic performers. Unfortunately, too, many teens do not have the maturity and perspective to understand that just because they’re not the best students, they have a responsibility to themselves and others to stick with school and graduate. Athletics and arts keeps many such students involved and connected to their school. And while they’re involved w/ those programs, they stick it out through their algebra, English comp and lit, and chemistry.

    A person’s personal positive memories of high school are likelier to center around music and athletics than w/ algebra or chemistry.

    School districts who accept these broader values that I listed above have lower dropout rates, higher API, higher transition to college, lower juvenile crime. And this isn’t always tied to affluent communities.

    Personally, I’m not crazy about a HS football program, but I think it serves a very useful purpose in keep students active and occupied during after school hours.

  68. Anonymous said… 2/18/08 8:56 AM

    “There are a number of programs at DHS that benefit at most a dozen or two students, and that are effectively closed to all but the most affluent. I speak of the advanced choral and instrumental music programs. To get past auditions for these programs private lessons are essential, a requirement that puts them out of reach for many. I have no idea how much public funds go to these programs, but given the effective bar to any but the top economic class, I’d look at taking them out of the budget. They’ve already shown they can raise independent funding for trips around the world – just extend that independent funding to cover the whole program.

    Likewise I’d take a hard look at how much public money goes to support team sports. Here the division isn’t simply economic; some kids whose families have limited resources are still excellent athletes. But it’s only tradition that implies some connection with education; in reality a team sport program is completely unnecessary. Some of us see football, in particular, as nothing but officially sanctioned physical aggression.

    The absolute last things that should be cut are programs specifically for at-risk students and programs designed to keep kids in school. Special ed, climate improvements to prevent bullying – some of these are protected by state mandates but even without that force behind them these should be the top priority. Our richest and best-prepared students (and I count my own among the latter, if not the former) need their free and appropriate education, but “enrichment” activities for them need not be provided from public funds, not at the expense of free and appropriate education for those who need it even more.”

    This comment almost gets too personal for me. I think this person needs to be a little more specific in his/her comments. I can only speak directly to the orchestra program. There are 126 students spread out over two classes, at an average student-teacher ratio of 63:1. Music programs are very productive for the district. If this were an English class, such a ratio would be an outrage.

    One is an audition group, the other is available to those who don’t want or can’t (various legitimate reasons why, such as course schedule) take on a more rigorous level of performance. I don’t consider myself rich, by any means. We pay for lessons, and it’s a stretch at times.

    I value the music program in DJUSD because it promotes values of
    1) creative self-expression
    2) cooperation as a team
    3) promotes community/friendship among parents and students helps connect all of us to the school and the district
    4) defines success differently for students besides winning or losing or a numerical grade/score

    Where else will my kids get these kinds of values instilled for a very reasonable price to the district and communtiy?

    If you cut the music programs, mostly the talented/economic elite will find the resources to continue.

    If you want a class where a diverse range of students of different academic abilities, racial/ethnic/national backgrounds, socio-economic classes come together, music is a pretty good place to start.

    Orchestra has been able to offer trips at a cheaper individual cost than normal because of the economy of scale. Our fundraising efforts have increasingly been trying to include subsidies for students/families who have a harder time affording such activities. Some families come forth and accept the help. Others choose not to or opt out for other reasons. What you propose, practically, is pay to play for the music program.

    A strong, vibrant, and accessible spectrum of arts and athletics keeps more students involved in schools. In Davis w/ the presence of an overachieving culture, not all students can keep up w/ the large cohort of excellent academic performers. Unfortunately, too, many teens do not have the maturity and perspective to understand that just because they’re not the best students, they have a responsibility to themselves and others to stick with school and graduate. Athletics and arts keeps many such students involved and connected to their school. And while they’re involved w/ those programs, they stick it out through their algebra, English comp and lit, and chemistry.

    A person’s personal positive memories of high school are likelier to center around music and athletics than w/ algebra or chemistry.

    School districts who accept these broader values that I listed above have lower dropout rates, higher API, higher transition to college, lower juvenile crime. And this isn’t always tied to affluent communities.

    Personally, I’m not crazy about a HS football program, but I think it serves a very useful purpose in keep students active and occupied during after school hours.

  69. “…..There’s nothing to lose.”

    … and I would think that if you are unhappy with your choice to send your child to Valley Oak Charter School(highly unlikely), you can return your child to your District school at the next registration opportunity.

  70. “…..There’s nothing to lose.”

    … and I would think that if you are unhappy with your choice to send your child to Valley Oak Charter School(highly unlikely), you can return your child to your District school at the next registration opportunity.

  71. “…..There’s nothing to lose.”

    … and I would think that if you are unhappy with your choice to send your child to Valley Oak Charter School(highly unlikely), you can return your child to your District school at the next registration opportunity.

  72. “…..There’s nothing to lose.”

    … and I would think that if you are unhappy with your choice to send your child to Valley Oak Charter School(highly unlikely), you can return your child to your District school at the next registration opportunity.

  73. If memory serves the Enterprise also mentioned combining the GATE and Special Ed (or maybe it was ESL) director positions. Either way I think this will weaken both programs. THey already are going down that path with the 4 strands of GATE. As a parent of a college kid who benefited greatly from the Valley Oak and GATE experience, I see a great dilution with these changes.

  74. If memory serves the Enterprise also mentioned combining the GATE and Special Ed (or maybe it was ESL) director positions. Either way I think this will weaken both programs. THey already are going down that path with the 4 strands of GATE. As a parent of a college kid who benefited greatly from the Valley Oak and GATE experience, I see a great dilution with these changes.

  75. If memory serves the Enterprise also mentioned combining the GATE and Special Ed (or maybe it was ESL) director positions. Either way I think this will weaken both programs. THey already are going down that path with the 4 strands of GATE. As a parent of a college kid who benefited greatly from the Valley Oak and GATE experience, I see a great dilution with these changes.

  76. If memory serves the Enterprise also mentioned combining the GATE and Special Ed (or maybe it was ESL) director positions. Either way I think this will weaken both programs. THey already are going down that path with the 4 strands of GATE. As a parent of a college kid who benefited greatly from the Valley Oak and GATE experience, I see a great dilution with these changes.

  77. 8:56. Football is one of the TWO NON CUT sports at the high school. Anyone can be on the team if there willing to go to practice. Last year there were over 120 students playing FB at DHS. The average cost for a family with student playing FB last year was $400 dollars. (this is because of the cost for protective equipment). If there are cuts, all extra circular programs should be cuts equally.

    Every kid is different and what ever motivates them to go to school and be excited about learning is a good thing!

  78. 8:56. Football is one of the TWO NON CUT sports at the high school. Anyone can be on the team if there willing to go to practice. Last year there were over 120 students playing FB at DHS. The average cost for a family with student playing FB last year was $400 dollars. (this is because of the cost for protective equipment). If there are cuts, all extra circular programs should be cuts equally.

    Every kid is different and what ever motivates them to go to school and be excited about learning is a good thing!

  79. 8:56. Football is one of the TWO NON CUT sports at the high school. Anyone can be on the team if there willing to go to practice. Last year there were over 120 students playing FB at DHS. The average cost for a family with student playing FB last year was $400 dollars. (this is because of the cost for protective equipment). If there are cuts, all extra circular programs should be cuts equally.

    Every kid is different and what ever motivates them to go to school and be excited about learning is a good thing!

  80. 8:56. Football is one of the TWO NON CUT sports at the high school. Anyone can be on the team if there willing to go to practice. Last year there were over 120 students playing FB at DHS. The average cost for a family with student playing FB last year was $400 dollars. (this is because of the cost for protective equipment). If there are cuts, all extra circular programs should be cuts equally.

    Every kid is different and what ever motivates them to go to school and be excited about learning is a good thing!

  81. Football has been a great experience for my son and I feel that he has gotten better grades because of it. Also I’m pretty sure the Football program does not get money from the district as of now. Last year the backers raised fifty thousand dollars for the program and I know half of that went to scholarships for needy kids who’s family’s could not afford to play.

  82. Football has been a great experience for my son and I feel that he has gotten better grades because of it. Also I’m pretty sure the Football program does not get money from the district as of now. Last year the backers raised fifty thousand dollars for the program and I know half of that went to scholarships for needy kids who’s family’s could not afford to play.

  83. Football has been a great experience for my son and I feel that he has gotten better grades because of it. Also I’m pretty sure the Football program does not get money from the district as of now. Last year the backers raised fifty thousand dollars for the program and I know half of that went to scholarships for needy kids who’s family’s could not afford to play.

  84. Football has been a great experience for my son and I feel that he has gotten better grades because of it. Also I’m pretty sure the Football program does not get money from the district as of now. Last year the backers raised fifty thousand dollars for the program and I know half of that went to scholarships for needy kids who’s family’s could not afford to play.

  85. It is far from my intention to pit kids against kids here or to talk about cutting football to save school climate. This is part of the problem here and I think there are a confluence of things including poor fiscal management of the past by the prior boards and especially the prior fiscal team. Declining enrollment does not help. And the Governor’s irresponsible proposals in my view are the worst of it.

    I fully understand we need to make painful choices, my problem is that we have to think about what we are doing here because some of these things have been long hard fights to get this far, and we are going to cut them in one fell swoop? I have a problem with that and I think our kids will pay for it down the line.

  86. It is far from my intention to pit kids against kids here or to talk about cutting football to save school climate. This is part of the problem here and I think there are a confluence of things including poor fiscal management of the past by the prior boards and especially the prior fiscal team. Declining enrollment does not help. And the Governor’s irresponsible proposals in my view are the worst of it.

    I fully understand we need to make painful choices, my problem is that we have to think about what we are doing here because some of these things have been long hard fights to get this far, and we are going to cut them in one fell swoop? I have a problem with that and I think our kids will pay for it down the line.

  87. It is far from my intention to pit kids against kids here or to talk about cutting football to save school climate. This is part of the problem here and I think there are a confluence of things including poor fiscal management of the past by the prior boards and especially the prior fiscal team. Declining enrollment does not help. And the Governor’s irresponsible proposals in my view are the worst of it.

    I fully understand we need to make painful choices, my problem is that we have to think about what we are doing here because some of these things have been long hard fights to get this far, and we are going to cut them in one fell swoop? I have a problem with that and I think our kids will pay for it down the line.

  88. It is far from my intention to pit kids against kids here or to talk about cutting football to save school climate. This is part of the problem here and I think there are a confluence of things including poor fiscal management of the past by the prior boards and especially the prior fiscal team. Declining enrollment does not help. And the Governor’s irresponsible proposals in my view are the worst of it.

    I fully understand we need to make painful choices, my problem is that we have to think about what we are doing here because some of these things have been long hard fights to get this far, and we are going to cut them in one fell swoop? I have a problem with that and I think our kids will pay for it down the line.

  89. Much as focusing on education, jobs programs and a good economy brings some eventual solid savings in welfare and correctional programs, I can’t help but think that strengthening/supporting programs that have a positive socializing effect on school communities — such as athletics and the performing arts — should bring about improvements in graduation rates, ADA, lower dropout rates, and reduced costs in remedial/punitive/correctional programs for the district.

    Carried further, I think the district could fund performing arts and team athletic programs and hold those groups accountable for making themselves accessible to a diverse student population. Presumably you minimize the need and justification for a district-wide climate coordinator, and perhaps other related programs.

    DPD, what do you think?

  90. Much as focusing on education, jobs programs and a good economy brings some eventual solid savings in welfare and correctional programs, I can’t help but think that strengthening/supporting programs that have a positive socializing effect on school communities — such as athletics and the performing arts — should bring about improvements in graduation rates, ADA, lower dropout rates, and reduced costs in remedial/punitive/correctional programs for the district.

    Carried further, I think the district could fund performing arts and team athletic programs and hold those groups accountable for making themselves accessible to a diverse student population. Presumably you minimize the need and justification for a district-wide climate coordinator, and perhaps other related programs.

    DPD, what do you think?

  91. Much as focusing on education, jobs programs and a good economy brings some eventual solid savings in welfare and correctional programs, I can’t help but think that strengthening/supporting programs that have a positive socializing effect on school communities — such as athletics and the performing arts — should bring about improvements in graduation rates, ADA, lower dropout rates, and reduced costs in remedial/punitive/correctional programs for the district.

    Carried further, I think the district could fund performing arts and team athletic programs and hold those groups accountable for making themselves accessible to a diverse student population. Presumably you minimize the need and justification for a district-wide climate coordinator, and perhaps other related programs.

    DPD, what do you think?

  92. Much as focusing on education, jobs programs and a good economy brings some eventual solid savings in welfare and correctional programs, I can’t help but think that strengthening/supporting programs that have a positive socializing effect on school communities — such as athletics and the performing arts — should bring about improvements in graduation rates, ADA, lower dropout rates, and reduced costs in remedial/punitive/correctional programs for the district.

    Carried further, I think the district could fund performing arts and team athletic programs and hold those groups accountable for making themselves accessible to a diverse student population. Presumably you minimize the need and justification for a district-wide climate coordinator, and perhaps other related programs.

    DPD, what do you think?

  93. The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

  94. The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

  95. The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

  96. The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

  97. I hope we can get there. We were not there a year ago. In fact, a year ago the district felt the need to expand the role of the climate coordinator position from half-time to full-time.

    $100,000 does seem a lot for that position and to be honest, I have had some concerns with Mel Lewis, but I don’t think we’ve done much in the past year that would justify eliminating the position that we expanded previously.

    I am hopeful that having a new superintendent and a new team in place will lessen the need for a climate coordinator, but I think that is premature. And there is a long history here.

  98. I hope we can get there. We were not there a year ago. In fact, a year ago the district felt the need to expand the role of the climate coordinator position from half-time to full-time.

    $100,000 does seem a lot for that position and to be honest, I have had some concerns with Mel Lewis, but I don’t think we’ve done much in the past year that would justify eliminating the position that we expanded previously.

    I am hopeful that having a new superintendent and a new team in place will lessen the need for a climate coordinator, but I think that is premature. And there is a long history here.

  99. I hope we can get there. We were not there a year ago. In fact, a year ago the district felt the need to expand the role of the climate coordinator position from half-time to full-time.

    $100,000 does seem a lot for that position and to be honest, I have had some concerns with Mel Lewis, but I don’t think we’ve done much in the past year that would justify eliminating the position that we expanded previously.

    I am hopeful that having a new superintendent and a new team in place will lessen the need for a climate coordinator, but I think that is premature. And there is a long history here.

  100. I hope we can get there. We were not there a year ago. In fact, a year ago the district felt the need to expand the role of the climate coordinator position from half-time to full-time.

    $100,000 does seem a lot for that position and to be honest, I have had some concerns with Mel Lewis, but I don’t think we’ve done much in the past year that would justify eliminating the position that we expanded previously.

    I am hopeful that having a new superintendent and a new team in place will lessen the need for a climate coordinator, but I think that is premature. And there is a long history here.

  101. “been through this before said…
    The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

    2/18/08 2:07 PM”

    Ouch! again, a little too personal attack for me.

    I am not trying to promote a hunker-down, NIMBY, approach.

    Every time budget cuts come around, performing arts and athletics are regularly devalued enough to justify cutting them.

    They are perceived as “elite” and extra in some way. If you build them correctly, they engage broad segments of the community that wouldn’t normally associate w/ each other.

    Rather, *I wish to broaden the perspective of education beyond traditional sitdown academic classes. The latter classes just aren’t for everyone at this age.

    I have seen any number of kids, one of my own included, who would probably be a drag on the Davis community right now, were it not for the positive socializing effects of music.

    Others may argue that my kid is the way he is because of poor parenting. I simply respond that there are instances where you have a difficult kid, no matter what you do (and we have tried almost everything). Socializing programs offer a very helpful tool, in these instances.

    I would rather see participation in these program rather than have my kid dragging down the district w/ costs associated w/ truancy, or corrective/remedial programs.

    Yes, that would imply cutting back some additional core classes, or raising class sizes for those courses. You still have an English program, you still have a math program, you still have a science program, and you still have arts and athletics.

  102. “been through this before said…
    The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

    2/18/08 2:07 PM”

    Ouch! again, a little too personal attack for me.

    I am not trying to promote a hunker-down, NIMBY, approach.

    Every time budget cuts come around, performing arts and athletics are regularly devalued enough to justify cutting them.

    They are perceived as “elite” and extra in some way. If you build them correctly, they engage broad segments of the community that wouldn’t normally associate w/ each other.

    Rather, *I wish to broaden the perspective of education beyond traditional sitdown academic classes. The latter classes just aren’t for everyone at this age.

    I have seen any number of kids, one of my own included, who would probably be a drag on the Davis community right now, were it not for the positive socializing effects of music.

    Others may argue that my kid is the way he is because of poor parenting. I simply respond that there are instances where you have a difficult kid, no matter what you do (and we have tried almost everything). Socializing programs offer a very helpful tool, in these instances.

    I would rather see participation in these program rather than have my kid dragging down the district w/ costs associated w/ truancy, or corrective/remedial programs.

    Yes, that would imply cutting back some additional core classes, or raising class sizes for those courses. You still have an English program, you still have a math program, you still have a science program, and you still have arts and athletics.

  103. “been through this before said…
    The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

    2/18/08 2:07 PM”

    Ouch! again, a little too personal attack for me.

    I am not trying to promote a hunker-down, NIMBY, approach.

    Every time budget cuts come around, performing arts and athletics are regularly devalued enough to justify cutting them.

    They are perceived as “elite” and extra in some way. If you build them correctly, they engage broad segments of the community that wouldn’t normally associate w/ each other.

    Rather, *I wish to broaden the perspective of education beyond traditional sitdown academic classes. The latter classes just aren’t for everyone at this age.

    I have seen any number of kids, one of my own included, who would probably be a drag on the Davis community right now, were it not for the positive socializing effects of music.

    Others may argue that my kid is the way he is because of poor parenting. I simply respond that there are instances where you have a difficult kid, no matter what you do (and we have tried almost everything). Socializing programs offer a very helpful tool, in these instances.

    I would rather see participation in these program rather than have my kid dragging down the district w/ costs associated w/ truancy, or corrective/remedial programs.

    Yes, that would imply cutting back some additional core classes, or raising class sizes for those courses. You still have an English program, you still have a math program, you still have a science program, and you still have arts and athletics.

  104. “been through this before said…
    The long diatribe about the value of the orchestra program is an example of the “hunker-down and protect my favorite program” mentality that sets in when cuts are being looked at.

    I think the sports programs at the Junior High and High School level could make some of the same arguments – all sports at the junior high level are “no cut” and we’ve heard that at least Football is “no cut”. Other sports are “by audition.” Isn’t that the same for music?

    Again, music at the high school level fits into the a-f requirements for college admission and will not be cut for this reason. Sports, unfortunately isn’t one of the a-f requirements. However, I’m sure that there are expenses associated with the music program that will be looked at – the extra curricular activities that the groups engage in.

    2/18/08 2:07 PM”

    Ouch! again, a little too personal attack for me.

    I am not trying to promote a hunker-down, NIMBY, approach.

    Every time budget cuts come around, performing arts and athletics are regularly devalued enough to justify cutting them.

    They are perceived as “elite” and extra in some way. If you build them correctly, they engage broad segments of the community that wouldn’t normally associate w/ each other.

    Rather, *I wish to broaden the perspective of education beyond traditional sitdown academic classes. The latter classes just aren’t for everyone at this age.

    I have seen any number of kids, one of my own included, who would probably be a drag on the Davis community right now, were it not for the positive socializing effects of music.

    Others may argue that my kid is the way he is because of poor parenting. I simply respond that there are instances where you have a difficult kid, no matter what you do (and we have tried almost everything). Socializing programs offer a very helpful tool, in these instances.

    I would rather see participation in these program rather than have my kid dragging down the district w/ costs associated w/ truancy, or corrective/remedial programs.

    Yes, that would imply cutting back some additional core classes, or raising class sizes for those courses. You still have an English program, you still have a math program, you still have a science program, and you still have arts and athletics.

  105. DPD,
    You blame the Governor for the budgets ills? You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.
    People like nunez,perata, cedillo and many others were there first, can you see that? Where do you want the cuts to be? And when you have to make those decisions would it be fair to call you the root of all evil in the state? How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?
    How about the elderly on fixed income, want to raise their taxes?
    I know there is not enough room in your time to address this issue fairly or in an unbiased manner. But you are wrong when you blame one person.

  106. DPD,
    You blame the Governor for the budgets ills? You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.
    People like nunez,perata, cedillo and many others were there first, can you see that? Where do you want the cuts to be? And when you have to make those decisions would it be fair to call you the root of all evil in the state? How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?
    How about the elderly on fixed income, want to raise their taxes?
    I know there is not enough room in your time to address this issue fairly or in an unbiased manner. But you are wrong when you blame one person.

  107. DPD,
    You blame the Governor for the budgets ills? You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.
    People like nunez,perata, cedillo and many others were there first, can you see that? Where do you want the cuts to be? And when you have to make those decisions would it be fair to call you the root of all evil in the state? How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?
    How about the elderly on fixed income, want to raise their taxes?
    I know there is not enough room in your time to address this issue fairly or in an unbiased manner. But you are wrong when you blame one person.

  108. DPD,
    You blame the Governor for the budgets ills? You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.
    People like nunez,perata, cedillo and many others were there first, can you see that? Where do you want the cuts to be? And when you have to make those decisions would it be fair to call you the root of all evil in the state? How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?
    How about the elderly on fixed income, want to raise their taxes?
    I know there is not enough room in your time to address this issue fairly or in an unbiased manner. But you are wrong when you blame one person.

  109. Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.

    Sports and anything “extra curricular” is not so lucky, but just as important to many kids.

  110. Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.

    Sports and anything “extra curricular” is not so lucky, but just as important to many kids.

  111. Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.

    Sports and anything “extra curricular” is not so lucky, but just as important to many kids.

  112. Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.

    Sports and anything “extra curricular” is not so lucky, but just as important to many kids.

  113. There are 35 posts on this thread, 19 of them by anonymous. Is it really too much to ask people to click on the ‘name’ option and invent a name that they can use on a consistent basis.

    In response to the anonymous above:

    “You blame the Governor for the budgets ills?”

    I blame the governor for proposing a budget that is unrealistic in the extent of the cuts knowing full well that the difficult choices have been thrown to the legislature but in the meantime, place like UC Davis and DJUSD are hung out to dry because they have to plan as though these cuts will go through–that means people will be in limbo and may lose their jobs or may think they are losing their jobs.

    ” You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.”

    I wouldn’t call people clowns, but I’m not arguing blame for the budget mess, I’m placing blame on a policy decision that in my view is irresponsible.

    “How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?”

    The way I see it is that I can either pay more in taxes or other people can lose their jobs. Sounds like Sophie’s choice to me and I suppose the responsible thing is to sacrifice other people’s jobs rather than increase taxes? Is that your argument? And btw, decrease the quality of our educational system in the process of cutting that money. Is that really a better solution? I’m just asking since you made it sound so simple a moment ago.

  114. There are 35 posts on this thread, 19 of them by anonymous. Is it really too much to ask people to click on the ‘name’ option and invent a name that they can use on a consistent basis.

    In response to the anonymous above:

    “You blame the Governor for the budgets ills?”

    I blame the governor for proposing a budget that is unrealistic in the extent of the cuts knowing full well that the difficult choices have been thrown to the legislature but in the meantime, place like UC Davis and DJUSD are hung out to dry because they have to plan as though these cuts will go through–that means people will be in limbo and may lose their jobs or may think they are losing their jobs.

    ” You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.”

    I wouldn’t call people clowns, but I’m not arguing blame for the budget mess, I’m placing blame on a policy decision that in my view is irresponsible.

    “How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?”

    The way I see it is that I can either pay more in taxes or other people can lose their jobs. Sounds like Sophie’s choice to me and I suppose the responsible thing is to sacrifice other people’s jobs rather than increase taxes? Is that your argument? And btw, decrease the quality of our educational system in the process of cutting that money. Is that really a better solution? I’m just asking since you made it sound so simple a moment ago.

  115. There are 35 posts on this thread, 19 of them by anonymous. Is it really too much to ask people to click on the ‘name’ option and invent a name that they can use on a consistent basis.

    In response to the anonymous above:

    “You blame the Governor for the budgets ills?”

    I blame the governor for proposing a budget that is unrealistic in the extent of the cuts knowing full well that the difficult choices have been thrown to the legislature but in the meantime, place like UC Davis and DJUSD are hung out to dry because they have to plan as though these cuts will go through–that means people will be in limbo and may lose their jobs or may think they are losing their jobs.

    ” You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.”

    I wouldn’t call people clowns, but I’m not arguing blame for the budget mess, I’m placing blame on a policy decision that in my view is irresponsible.

    “How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?”

    The way I see it is that I can either pay more in taxes or other people can lose their jobs. Sounds like Sophie’s choice to me and I suppose the responsible thing is to sacrifice other people’s jobs rather than increase taxes? Is that your argument? And btw, decrease the quality of our educational system in the process of cutting that money. Is that really a better solution? I’m just asking since you made it sound so simple a moment ago.

  116. There are 35 posts on this thread, 19 of them by anonymous. Is it really too much to ask people to click on the ‘name’ option and invent a name that they can use on a consistent basis.

    In response to the anonymous above:

    “You blame the Governor for the budgets ills?”

    I blame the governor for proposing a budget that is unrealistic in the extent of the cuts knowing full well that the difficult choices have been thrown to the legislature but in the meantime, place like UC Davis and DJUSD are hung out to dry because they have to plan as though these cuts will go through–that means people will be in limbo and may lose their jobs or may think they are losing their jobs.

    ” You need to take a look at the the last 20 years and all the state clowns who helped us get there. The Governor is only trying to stop the downhill slide.”

    I wouldn’t call people clowns, but I’m not arguing blame for the budget mess, I’m placing blame on a policy decision that in my view is irresponsible.

    “How about raising taxes? Do you wnat to be taxed more?”

    The way I see it is that I can either pay more in taxes or other people can lose their jobs. Sounds like Sophie’s choice to me and I suppose the responsible thing is to sacrifice other people’s jobs rather than increase taxes? Is that your argument? And btw, decrease the quality of our educational system in the process of cutting that money. Is that really a better solution? I’m just asking since you made it sound so simple a moment ago.

  117. The writing was on the wall last year. HUGE cuts will have to be made. The fate of Emerson Junior High will be on the table with students consolidated into two junior highs.
    Four million can’t be cut by eliminating “these” under enrolled classes and “this” fine art program. It’s FOUR MILLION.

  118. The writing was on the wall last year. HUGE cuts will have to be made. The fate of Emerson Junior High will be on the table with students consolidated into two junior highs.
    Four million can’t be cut by eliminating “these” under enrolled classes and “this” fine art program. It’s FOUR MILLION.

  119. The writing was on the wall last year. HUGE cuts will have to be made. The fate of Emerson Junior High will be on the table with students consolidated into two junior highs.
    Four million can’t be cut by eliminating “these” under enrolled classes and “this” fine art program. It’s FOUR MILLION.

  120. The writing was on the wall last year. HUGE cuts will have to be made. The fate of Emerson Junior High will be on the table with students consolidated into two junior highs.
    Four million can’t be cut by eliminating “these” under enrolled classes and “this” fine art program. It’s FOUR MILLION.

  121. Why not elminate administrators and let the teachers run the school? With every prinicpal making roughly $100,000 and the VPs pulling in about $75-90, we could save a lot of money….

  122. Why not elminate administrators and let the teachers run the school? With every prinicpal making roughly $100,000 and the VPs pulling in about $75-90, we could save a lot of money….

  123. Why not elminate administrators and let the teachers run the school? With every prinicpal making roughly $100,000 and the VPs pulling in about $75-90, we could save a lot of money….

  124. Why not elminate administrators and let the teachers run the school? With every prinicpal making roughly $100,000 and the VPs pulling in about $75-90, we could save a lot of money….

  125. Be realistic…4 million is a huge amount to cut. This is going to hurt. Every kid in the district is going to feel the effect.

    Either they need to cut many many programs, close another school or two, or both. They are in a bad place.

    In part because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.
    (one of the reasons why the previous superintendent and financial manager had to go.)

  126. Be realistic…4 million is a huge amount to cut. This is going to hurt. Every kid in the district is going to feel the effect.

    Either they need to cut many many programs, close another school or two, or both. They are in a bad place.

    In part because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.
    (one of the reasons why the previous superintendent and financial manager had to go.)

  127. Be realistic…4 million is a huge amount to cut. This is going to hurt. Every kid in the district is going to feel the effect.

    Either they need to cut many many programs, close another school or two, or both. They are in a bad place.

    In part because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.
    (one of the reasons why the previous superintendent and financial manager had to go.)

  128. Be realistic…4 million is a huge amount to cut. This is going to hurt. Every kid in the district is going to feel the effect.

    Either they need to cut many many programs, close another school or two, or both. They are in a bad place.

    In part because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.
    (one of the reasons why the previous superintendent and financial manager had to go.)

  129. Again, I’m not asking for people to give names, just use something other than anonymous, it is rather simple.

    I understand that it is going to be painful, I can accept that. However, I’m merely suggesting it not harm those who are most vulnerable disproportionately.

  130. Again, I’m not asking for people to give names, just use something other than anonymous, it is rather simple.

    I understand that it is going to be painful, I can accept that. However, I’m merely suggesting it not harm those who are most vulnerable disproportionately.

  131. Again, I’m not asking for people to give names, just use something other than anonymous, it is rather simple.

    I understand that it is going to be painful, I can accept that. However, I’m merely suggesting it not harm those who are most vulnerable disproportionately.

  132. Again, I’m not asking for people to give names, just use something other than anonymous, it is rather simple.

    I understand that it is going to be painful, I can accept that. However, I’m merely suggesting it not harm those who are most vulnerable disproportionately.

  133. anon writes, and god bless her or him for their choice of being anonymous. If someone wants to voice their opinion anonymously here, I say more power to ’em; their doing so is based on the same principle as the secret ballot. The Davis schools, he or she declares, are hurting…

    “…because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.”

    My question, who’s making the big bucks off of the Valley Oak remodel? We’re talking hundred$ of thousand$ here, am sure. Time to take the greedhead developers to task, make ’em fork back over buck$ to keep the schools running in a manner best suited to students and teachers. Get real:
    Why the hell does Valley Oak look now from the front more like a mini-mall than a school (already plenty of convenient parking I see)?
    Because the developers made big bucks off of the remodel…What we have here, in the immortal words of Strother Martin, who played the Captain in Cool Hand Luke, “…is a failure to communicate.”
    Let’s cut some red tape here people, cut to the heart of the problem, get our priorities honest, and give Valley Oak back to those who need it the way it’s supposed to be.

  134. anon writes, and god bless her or him for their choice of being anonymous. If someone wants to voice their opinion anonymously here, I say more power to ’em; their doing so is based on the same principle as the secret ballot. The Davis schools, he or she declares, are hurting…

    “…because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.”

    My question, who’s making the big bucks off of the Valley Oak remodel? We’re talking hundred$ of thousand$ here, am sure. Time to take the greedhead developers to task, make ’em fork back over buck$ to keep the schools running in a manner best suited to students and teachers. Get real:
    Why the hell does Valley Oak look now from the front more like a mini-mall than a school (already plenty of convenient parking I see)?
    Because the developers made big bucks off of the remodel…What we have here, in the immortal words of Strother Martin, who played the Captain in Cool Hand Luke, “…is a failure to communicate.”
    Let’s cut some red tape here people, cut to the heart of the problem, get our priorities honest, and give Valley Oak back to those who need it the way it’s supposed to be.

  135. anon writes, and god bless her or him for their choice of being anonymous. If someone wants to voice their opinion anonymously here, I say more power to ’em; their doing so is based on the same principle as the secret ballot. The Davis schools, he or she declares, are hurting…

    “…because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.”

    My question, who’s making the big bucks off of the Valley Oak remodel? We’re talking hundred$ of thousand$ here, am sure. Time to take the greedhead developers to task, make ’em fork back over buck$ to keep the schools running in a manner best suited to students and teachers. Get real:
    Why the hell does Valley Oak look now from the front more like a mini-mall than a school (already plenty of convenient parking I see)?
    Because the developers made big bucks off of the remodel…What we have here, in the immortal words of Strother Martin, who played the Captain in Cool Hand Luke, “…is a failure to communicate.”
    Let’s cut some red tape here people, cut to the heart of the problem, get our priorities honest, and give Valley Oak back to those who need it the way it’s supposed to be.

  136. anon writes, and god bless her or him for their choice of being anonymous. If someone wants to voice their opinion anonymously here, I say more power to ’em; their doing so is based on the same principle as the secret ballot. The Davis schools, he or she declares, are hurting…

    “…because of declining enrollment. In part because of the state cuts. But also because for years the district has been paying ongoing costs with one time funds.”

    My question, who’s making the big bucks off of the Valley Oak remodel? We’re talking hundred$ of thousand$ here, am sure. Time to take the greedhead developers to task, make ’em fork back over buck$ to keep the schools running in a manner best suited to students and teachers. Get real:
    Why the hell does Valley Oak look now from the front more like a mini-mall than a school (already plenty of convenient parking I see)?
    Because the developers made big bucks off of the remodel…What we have here, in the immortal words of Strother Martin, who played the Captain in Cool Hand Luke, “…is a failure to communicate.”
    Let’s cut some red tape here people, cut to the heart of the problem, get our priorities honest, and give Valley Oak back to those who need it the way it’s supposed to be.

  137. “Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.”

    And yet it’s okay to cut the elementary music program. That is the root of the band and orchestra program. You don’t have a living plant w/o its roots.

    In 1978 Davis cut its elementary music program. It was restored three years later. But w/in 4-5 years, DHS orchestra program was one third of its original enrollment. It took twenty years to recover to pre Prop 13 levels.
    You can find such info by looking at DHS yearbooks in the Davis public library.

    There are good gangs and bad gangs. Band, choir, orchestra, football, basketball, etc. are examples of good gangs. If we don’t have enough good gangs for our students to join, they will join other gangs, and they may not necessarily be the good gangs.

  138. “Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.”

    And yet it’s okay to cut the elementary music program. That is the root of the band and orchestra program. You don’t have a living plant w/o its roots.

    In 1978 Davis cut its elementary music program. It was restored three years later. But w/in 4-5 years, DHS orchestra program was one third of its original enrollment. It took twenty years to recover to pre Prop 13 levels.
    You can find such info by looking at DHS yearbooks in the Davis public library.

    There are good gangs and bad gangs. Band, choir, orchestra, football, basketball, etc. are examples of good gangs. If we don’t have enough good gangs for our students to join, they will join other gangs, and they may not necessarily be the good gangs.

  139. “Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.”

    And yet it’s okay to cut the elementary music program. That is the root of the band and orchestra program. You don’t have a living plant w/o its roots.

    In 1978 Davis cut its elementary music program. It was restored three years later. But w/in 4-5 years, DHS orchestra program was one third of its original enrollment. It took twenty years to recover to pre Prop 13 levels.
    You can find such info by looking at DHS yearbooks in the Davis public library.

    There are good gangs and bad gangs. Band, choir, orchestra, football, basketball, etc. are examples of good gangs. If we don’t have enough good gangs for our students to join, they will join other gangs, and they may not necessarily be the good gangs.

  140. “Art (performing & fine) is now an a-f requirement for UC admissions.

    Orchestra will not be considered for removal from the High School curriculum because of this.”

    And yet it’s okay to cut the elementary music program. That is the root of the band and orchestra program. You don’t have a living plant w/o its roots.

    In 1978 Davis cut its elementary music program. It was restored three years later. But w/in 4-5 years, DHS orchestra program was one third of its original enrollment. It took twenty years to recover to pre Prop 13 levels.
    You can find such info by looking at DHS yearbooks in the Davis public library.

    There are good gangs and bad gangs. Band, choir, orchestra, football, basketball, etc. are examples of good gangs. If we don’t have enough good gangs for our students to join, they will join other gangs, and they may not necessarily be the good gangs.

  141. The sky will not fall… chicken littles. Just like the banking/housing market/credit meltdown is being “managed” and the damage spread out over time with various financial arrangements and stimulus packages, politics will not allow these education budget deficits to hit all at once but rather will be spread out over time to “soften ” their impact.

  142. The sky will not fall… chicken littles. Just like the banking/housing market/credit meltdown is being “managed” and the damage spread out over time with various financial arrangements and stimulus packages, politics will not allow these education budget deficits to hit all at once but rather will be spread out over time to “soften ” their impact.

  143. The sky will not fall… chicken littles. Just like the banking/housing market/credit meltdown is being “managed” and the damage spread out over time with various financial arrangements and stimulus packages, politics will not allow these education budget deficits to hit all at once but rather will be spread out over time to “soften ” their impact.

  144. The sky will not fall… chicken littles. Just like the banking/housing market/credit meltdown is being “managed” and the damage spread out over time with various financial arrangements and stimulus packages, politics will not allow these education budget deficits to hit all at once but rather will be spread out over time to “soften ” their impact.

  145. Maybe the GATE program should be disbanded entirely. It polarizes the community, is expensive, and often requires our children to ‘commute’ outside of their neighborhood area. Our neighborhood teachers should be good enough to teach ALL of the children in their classrooms, even the ‘smart’ ones. Everyone has a bias; mine is that I have GATE identified kids, but the neighborhood school is ‘good enough.’

  146. Maybe the GATE program should be disbanded entirely. It polarizes the community, is expensive, and often requires our children to ‘commute’ outside of their neighborhood area. Our neighborhood teachers should be good enough to teach ALL of the children in their classrooms, even the ‘smart’ ones. Everyone has a bias; mine is that I have GATE identified kids, but the neighborhood school is ‘good enough.’

  147. Maybe the GATE program should be disbanded entirely. It polarizes the community, is expensive, and often requires our children to ‘commute’ outside of their neighborhood area. Our neighborhood teachers should be good enough to teach ALL of the children in their classrooms, even the ‘smart’ ones. Everyone has a bias; mine is that I have GATE identified kids, but the neighborhood school is ‘good enough.’

  148. Maybe the GATE program should be disbanded entirely. It polarizes the community, is expensive, and often requires our children to ‘commute’ outside of their neighborhood area. Our neighborhood teachers should be good enough to teach ALL of the children in their classrooms, even the ‘smart’ ones. Everyone has a bias; mine is that I have GATE identified kids, but the neighborhood school is ‘good enough.’

  149. I am not a GATE parent so have no dog in that fight, but disbanding GATE won’t save much money. The big expense is for teachers, and those same kids will still need another teacher someplace else if they aren’t being taught in a GATE program.

  150. I am not a GATE parent so have no dog in that fight, but disbanding GATE won’t save much money. The big expense is for teachers, and those same kids will still need another teacher someplace else if they aren’t being taught in a GATE program.

  151. I am not a GATE parent so have no dog in that fight, but disbanding GATE won’t save much money. The big expense is for teachers, and those same kids will still need another teacher someplace else if they aren’t being taught in a GATE program.

  152. I am not a GATE parent so have no dog in that fight, but disbanding GATE won’t save much money. The big expense is for teachers, and those same kids will still need another teacher someplace else if they aren’t being taught in a GATE program.

  153. GATE is always brought up as “polarizing” yet none of the other sacred cows are mentioned. If you want to cut GATE then also have the guts to go after Spanish Immersion or Fairfield. Or are those not politically correct cuts?

  154. GATE is always brought up as “polarizing” yet none of the other sacred cows are mentioned. If you want to cut GATE then also have the guts to go after Spanish Immersion or Fairfield. Or are those not politically correct cuts?

  155. GATE is always brought up as “polarizing” yet none of the other sacred cows are mentioned. If you want to cut GATE then also have the guts to go after Spanish Immersion or Fairfield. Or are those not politically correct cuts?

  156. GATE is always brought up as “polarizing” yet none of the other sacred cows are mentioned. If you want to cut GATE then also have the guts to go after Spanish Immersion or Fairfield. Or are those not politically correct cuts?

  157. So… go after Spanish immersion and Fairfield programs, as well as GATE.

    At least the band and orchestra programs at the Jr. and Senior High Schools support themselves, allow all students to participate at some level, pay teacher salaries, and fund instrument repairs and purchases for use in their groups and for the elementary children as well. The high school students also give private music lessons, paid for by a scholarship, to younger children. The music programs are available to any student who puts in the time and effort, private lessons or not. Music programs are easy to target because they are visible. Less visible are the excess ‘counselors’ and administrators.

  158. So… go after Spanish immersion and Fairfield programs, as well as GATE.

    At least the band and orchestra programs at the Jr. and Senior High Schools support themselves, allow all students to participate at some level, pay teacher salaries, and fund instrument repairs and purchases for use in their groups and for the elementary children as well. The high school students also give private music lessons, paid for by a scholarship, to younger children. The music programs are available to any student who puts in the time and effort, private lessons or not. Music programs are easy to target because they are visible. Less visible are the excess ‘counselors’ and administrators.

  159. So… go after Spanish immersion and Fairfield programs, as well as GATE.

    At least the band and orchestra programs at the Jr. and Senior High Schools support themselves, allow all students to participate at some level, pay teacher salaries, and fund instrument repairs and purchases for use in their groups and for the elementary children as well. The high school students also give private music lessons, paid for by a scholarship, to younger children. The music programs are available to any student who puts in the time and effort, private lessons or not. Music programs are easy to target because they are visible. Less visible are the excess ‘counselors’ and administrators.

  160. So… go after Spanish immersion and Fairfield programs, as well as GATE.

    At least the band and orchestra programs at the Jr. and Senior High Schools support themselves, allow all students to participate at some level, pay teacher salaries, and fund instrument repairs and purchases for use in their groups and for the elementary children as well. The high school students also give private music lessons, paid for by a scholarship, to younger children. The music programs are available to any student who puts in the time and effort, private lessons or not. Music programs are easy to target because they are visible. Less visible are the excess ‘counselors’ and administrators.

  161. “Anonymous FRW said…

    Long time no Don Shor…?

    2/19/08 6:56 AM”
    LOL.
    My kids were
    –interdistrict transfer students,
    –at Valley Oak,
    –in GATE and Special Ed, and –participated in debate and music at the high school.
    Which of those topics and sacred cows would you like me to address?!

  162. “Anonymous FRW said…

    Long time no Don Shor…?

    2/19/08 6:56 AM”
    LOL.
    My kids were
    –interdistrict transfer students,
    –at Valley Oak,
    –in GATE and Special Ed, and –participated in debate and music at the high school.
    Which of those topics and sacred cows would you like me to address?!

  163. “Anonymous FRW said…

    Long time no Don Shor…?

    2/19/08 6:56 AM”
    LOL.
    My kids were
    –interdistrict transfer students,
    –at Valley Oak,
    –in GATE and Special Ed, and –participated in debate and music at the high school.
    Which of those topics and sacred cows would you like me to address?!

  164. “Anonymous FRW said…

    Long time no Don Shor…?

    2/19/08 6:56 AM”
    LOL.
    My kids were
    –interdistrict transfer students,
    –at Valley Oak,
    –in GATE and Special Ed, and –participated in debate and music at the high school.
    Which of those topics and sacred cows would you like me to address?!

  165. Actually, I was looking to hear your usual well-reasoned assessment of the situation.
    I am not interested in furthering the urination contest going on of, “Not MY program, take THEIRS!” when all those programs put together are small potatoes compared to the 4 million in cuts that is needed.

  166. Actually, I was looking to hear your usual well-reasoned assessment of the situation.
    I am not interested in furthering the urination contest going on of, “Not MY program, take THEIRS!” when all those programs put together are small potatoes compared to the 4 million in cuts that is needed.

  167. Actually, I was looking to hear your usual well-reasoned assessment of the situation.
    I am not interested in furthering the urination contest going on of, “Not MY program, take THEIRS!” when all those programs put together are small potatoes compared to the 4 million in cuts that is needed.

  168. Actually, I was looking to hear your usual well-reasoned assessment of the situation.
    I am not interested in furthering the urination contest going on of, “Not MY program, take THEIRS!” when all those programs put together are small potatoes compared to the 4 million in cuts that is needed.

  169. “Doug Paul Davis said…
    “These cuts are mostly from declining enrollment not state cuts. “

    That is completely false.”

    At the last school board meeting, the figures cited were that the state shortfall was $1.5 million. The shortfall from declining enrollment was almost $1 million. The shortfall from required mandates that hadn’t been previously balanced was $1.5 million.

    In one sense, the state cut isn’t as much as the sum of the other two.

  170. “Doug Paul Davis said…
    “These cuts are mostly from declining enrollment not state cuts. “

    That is completely false.”

    At the last school board meeting, the figures cited were that the state shortfall was $1.5 million. The shortfall from declining enrollment was almost $1 million. The shortfall from required mandates that hadn’t been previously balanced was $1.5 million.

    In one sense, the state cut isn’t as much as the sum of the other two.

  171. “Doug Paul Davis said…
    “These cuts are mostly from declining enrollment not state cuts. “

    That is completely false.”

    At the last school board meeting, the figures cited were that the state shortfall was $1.5 million. The shortfall from declining enrollment was almost $1 million. The shortfall from required mandates that hadn’t been previously balanced was $1.5 million.

    In one sense, the state cut isn’t as much as the sum of the other two.

  172. “Doug Paul Davis said…
    “These cuts are mostly from declining enrollment not state cuts. “

    That is completely false.”

    At the last school board meeting, the figures cited were that the state shortfall was $1.5 million. The shortfall from declining enrollment was almost $1 million. The shortfall from required mandates that hadn’t been previously balanced was $1.5 million.

    In one sense, the state cut isn’t as much as the sum of the other two.

  173. Years ago, the Berkeley school district cut their elementary school music program. Parents and Teachers banded together and began to contact all of their alumni who had benefited from the free elementary music program and were successful musicians and performers. Each were asked to donate substantially to the program that provided them with their start. They raised enough money over that following summer to keep the elementary program alive – some $300,000.

  174. Years ago, the Berkeley school district cut their elementary school music program. Parents and Teachers banded together and began to contact all of their alumni who had benefited from the free elementary music program and were successful musicians and performers. Each were asked to donate substantially to the program that provided them with their start. They raised enough money over that following summer to keep the elementary program alive – some $300,000.

  175. Years ago, the Berkeley school district cut their elementary school music program. Parents and Teachers banded together and began to contact all of their alumni who had benefited from the free elementary music program and were successful musicians and performers. Each were asked to donate substantially to the program that provided them with their start. They raised enough money over that following summer to keep the elementary program alive – some $300,000.

  176. Years ago, the Berkeley school district cut their elementary school music program. Parents and Teachers banded together and began to contact all of their alumni who had benefited from the free elementary music program and were successful musicians and performers. Each were asked to donate substantially to the program that provided them with their start. They raised enough money over that following summer to keep the elementary program alive – some $300,000.

  177. You guys are like a circular firing squad. Gate says cut immersion who wants to cut music who wants to cut valley oak who wants to cut art who wants to cut climate control who wants to cut pe. You don’t get it how do you lessen the blow? Interdistrict transfers and build housing for young families. You can lay this at the feet of the nimbys who don’t want any growth and you can also blame the city planners and developers for not building housing that the city needs instead of maximizing profits for the developers. This school district is about to take a big dive and as pogo said “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

  178. You guys are like a circular firing squad. Gate says cut immersion who wants to cut music who wants to cut valley oak who wants to cut art who wants to cut climate control who wants to cut pe. You don’t get it how do you lessen the blow? Interdistrict transfers and build housing for young families. You can lay this at the feet of the nimbys who don’t want any growth and you can also blame the city planners and developers for not building housing that the city needs instead of maximizing profits for the developers. This school district is about to take a big dive and as pogo said “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

  179. You guys are like a circular firing squad. Gate says cut immersion who wants to cut music who wants to cut valley oak who wants to cut art who wants to cut climate control who wants to cut pe. You don’t get it how do you lessen the blow? Interdistrict transfers and build housing for young families. You can lay this at the feet of the nimbys who don’t want any growth and you can also blame the city planners and developers for not building housing that the city needs instead of maximizing profits for the developers. This school district is about to take a big dive and as pogo said “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

  180. You guys are like a circular firing squad. Gate says cut immersion who wants to cut music who wants to cut valley oak who wants to cut art who wants to cut climate control who wants to cut pe. You don’t get it how do you lessen the blow? Interdistrict transfers and build housing for young families. You can lay this at the feet of the nimbys who don’t want any growth and you can also blame the city planners and developers for not building housing that the city needs instead of maximizing profits for the developers. This school district is about to take a big dive and as pogo said “We have met the enemy and he is us.”

  181. DPD,
    I agree with you . Cut out the Anonymous postings. This will elimate probably 90% of responses to your website. It will save you a lot of time and you will only have to respond to Rifkin,Wu Ming,Don shor and a few others.
    This is your website. You have the power to control thoughts and responses in your favor.

  182. DPD,
    I agree with you . Cut out the Anonymous postings. This will elimate probably 90% of responses to your website. It will save you a lot of time and you will only have to respond to Rifkin,Wu Ming,Don shor and a few others.
    This is your website. You have the power to control thoughts and responses in your favor.

  183. DPD,
    I agree with you . Cut out the Anonymous postings. This will elimate probably 90% of responses to your website. It will save you a lot of time and you will only have to respond to Rifkin,Wu Ming,Don shor and a few others.
    This is your website. You have the power to control thoughts and responses in your favor.

  184. DPD,
    I agree with you . Cut out the Anonymous postings. This will elimate probably 90% of responses to your website. It will save you a lot of time and you will only have to respond to Rifkin,Wu Ming,Don shor and a few others.
    This is your website. You have the power to control thoughts and responses in your favor.

  185. i agree, cutting Mel’s position is bad. there are moments of enlightenment in this community and elsewhere when people realize what is important: teaching healthy mind. we need to take the aggression and competition out of schools and teach fitness of mind and body.

    cut sports- this is fine. i did sports in high school- but until i practiced healthy thinking and start riding my bike for fitness did i understand what good sports was for- fun and fitness. doing sports in school skips over this and goes straight to competition. this is an old way of thinking.

    mel lewis and his position is a new way of thinking. it reaches to the core of how we should live- in peace with ourselves and our community. ultimately things fall in place after that.

  186. i agree, cutting Mel’s position is bad. there are moments of enlightenment in this community and elsewhere when people realize what is important: teaching healthy mind. we need to take the aggression and competition out of schools and teach fitness of mind and body.

    cut sports- this is fine. i did sports in high school- but until i practiced healthy thinking and start riding my bike for fitness did i understand what good sports was for- fun and fitness. doing sports in school skips over this and goes straight to competition. this is an old way of thinking.

    mel lewis and his position is a new way of thinking. it reaches to the core of how we should live- in peace with ourselves and our community. ultimately things fall in place after that.

  187. i agree, cutting Mel’s position is bad. there are moments of enlightenment in this community and elsewhere when people realize what is important: teaching healthy mind. we need to take the aggression and competition out of schools and teach fitness of mind and body.

    cut sports- this is fine. i did sports in high school- but until i practiced healthy thinking and start riding my bike for fitness did i understand what good sports was for- fun and fitness. doing sports in school skips over this and goes straight to competition. this is an old way of thinking.

    mel lewis and his position is a new way of thinking. it reaches to the core of how we should live- in peace with ourselves and our community. ultimately things fall in place after that.

  188. i agree, cutting Mel’s position is bad. there are moments of enlightenment in this community and elsewhere when people realize what is important: teaching healthy mind. we need to take the aggression and competition out of schools and teach fitness of mind and body.

    cut sports- this is fine. i did sports in high school- but until i practiced healthy thinking and start riding my bike for fitness did i understand what good sports was for- fun and fitness. doing sports in school skips over this and goes straight to competition. this is an old way of thinking.

    mel lewis and his position is a new way of thinking. it reaches to the core of how we should live- in peace with ourselves and our community. ultimately things fall in place after that.

  189. Dear Anonymouses (Anonymi?) 8:56AM, 8:58AM, 9:03AM, 9:11AM, 9:11AM, 9:13AM, 9:15AM, 9:25AM, 9:32AM, 10:07AM, 10:29AM, 10:47AM, 11:22AM, 11:42AM, 2:06PM, 2:44PM, 3:47PM, 10:25PM, 10:59PM, 12:20PM, 8:12AM, 8:51AM, 9:22AM, 10:05AM, 8:37PM and, especially, 9:36PM

    DPD *isn’t* saying you can’t or shouldn’t be anonymous, he’s just asking you to please pick any name, not your own, so it is easier to respond to your particular post.

  190. Dear Anonymouses (Anonymi?) 8:56AM, 8:58AM, 9:03AM, 9:11AM, 9:11AM, 9:13AM, 9:15AM, 9:25AM, 9:32AM, 10:07AM, 10:29AM, 10:47AM, 11:22AM, 11:42AM, 2:06PM, 2:44PM, 3:47PM, 10:25PM, 10:59PM, 12:20PM, 8:12AM, 8:51AM, 9:22AM, 10:05AM, 8:37PM and, especially, 9:36PM

    DPD *isn’t* saying you can’t or shouldn’t be anonymous, he’s just asking you to please pick any name, not your own, so it is easier to respond to your particular post.

  191. Dear Anonymouses (Anonymi?) 8:56AM, 8:58AM, 9:03AM, 9:11AM, 9:11AM, 9:13AM, 9:15AM, 9:25AM, 9:32AM, 10:07AM, 10:29AM, 10:47AM, 11:22AM, 11:42AM, 2:06PM, 2:44PM, 3:47PM, 10:25PM, 10:59PM, 12:20PM, 8:12AM, 8:51AM, 9:22AM, 10:05AM, 8:37PM and, especially, 9:36PM

    DPD *isn’t* saying you can’t or shouldn’t be anonymous, he’s just asking you to please pick any name, not your own, so it is easier to respond to your particular post.

  192. Dear Anonymouses (Anonymi?) 8:56AM, 8:58AM, 9:03AM, 9:11AM, 9:11AM, 9:13AM, 9:15AM, 9:25AM, 9:32AM, 10:07AM, 10:29AM, 10:47AM, 11:22AM, 11:42AM, 2:06PM, 2:44PM, 3:47PM, 10:25PM, 10:59PM, 12:20PM, 8:12AM, 8:51AM, 9:22AM, 10:05AM, 8:37PM and, especially, 9:36PM

    DPD *isn’t* saying you can’t or shouldn’t be anonymous, he’s just asking you to please pick any name, not your own, so it is easier to respond to your particular post.

  193. Mel Lewis’s postion is an important reminder of what is important. If you ever have gone to his meetings, it is sad to see that the issues that he brings up are the same issues that were brought up when Michael Villalobos, the first climate person, was on board. However, the last meeting I went to, instead of the same ethnic European faces filling the table, I was encouraged to see that Latino students and faculty were coming to tell about their continued experiences with racism and voice their opinions. And the people around that table were REALLY hearing them! This was a step forward. If the climate position is eliminated, all the years of work would be lost.
    But most of the people in Davis have never felt the sting of racial prejudice or known what it is like to feel to not be seen as a unique individual but be labelled for the color of your skin. So I suspect that most people in Davis don’t give a damn. That is why Valley Oak went on the chopping block to early in the game.

    Okay DPD—I’m, not “anonymous!”

  194. Mel Lewis’s postion is an important reminder of what is important. If you ever have gone to his meetings, it is sad to see that the issues that he brings up are the same issues that were brought up when Michael Villalobos, the first climate person, was on board. However, the last meeting I went to, instead of the same ethnic European faces filling the table, I was encouraged to see that Latino students and faculty were coming to tell about their continued experiences with racism and voice their opinions. And the people around that table were REALLY hearing them! This was a step forward. If the climate position is eliminated, all the years of work would be lost.
    But most of the people in Davis have never felt the sting of racial prejudice or known what it is like to feel to not be seen as a unique individual but be labelled for the color of your skin. So I suspect that most people in Davis don’t give a damn. That is why Valley Oak went on the chopping block to early in the game.

    Okay DPD—I’m, not “anonymous!”

  195. Mel Lewis’s postion is an important reminder of what is important. If you ever have gone to his meetings, it is sad to see that the issues that he brings up are the same issues that were brought up when Michael Villalobos, the first climate person, was on board. However, the last meeting I went to, instead of the same ethnic European faces filling the table, I was encouraged to see that Latino students and faculty were coming to tell about their continued experiences with racism and voice their opinions. And the people around that table were REALLY hearing them! This was a step forward. If the climate position is eliminated, all the years of work would be lost.
    But most of the people in Davis have never felt the sting of racial prejudice or known what it is like to feel to not be seen as a unique individual but be labelled for the color of your skin. So I suspect that most people in Davis don’t give a damn. That is why Valley Oak went on the chopping block to early in the game.

    Okay DPD—I’m, not “anonymous!”

  196. Mel Lewis’s postion is an important reminder of what is important. If you ever have gone to his meetings, it is sad to see that the issues that he brings up are the same issues that were brought up when Michael Villalobos, the first climate person, was on board. However, the last meeting I went to, instead of the same ethnic European faces filling the table, I was encouraged to see that Latino students and faculty were coming to tell about their continued experiences with racism and voice their opinions. And the people around that table were REALLY hearing them! This was a step forward. If the climate position is eliminated, all the years of work would be lost.
    But most of the people in Davis have never felt the sting of racial prejudice or known what it is like to feel to not be seen as a unique individual but be labelled for the color of your skin. So I suspect that most people in Davis don’t give a damn. That is why Valley Oak went on the chopping block to early in the game.

    Okay DPD—I’m, not “anonymous!”

  197. The Best Uses of School Sites Task Force that recommended Valley Oak closure admitted that they didn’t even look at school test scores in making their decision. They don’t see anything wrong with that.

  198. The Best Uses of School Sites Task Force that recommended Valley Oak closure admitted that they didn’t even look at school test scores in making their decision. They don’t see anything wrong with that.

  199. The Best Uses of School Sites Task Force that recommended Valley Oak closure admitted that they didn’t even look at school test scores in making their decision. They don’t see anything wrong with that.

  200. The Best Uses of School Sites Task Force that recommended Valley Oak closure admitted that they didn’t even look at school test scores in making their decision. They don’t see anything wrong with that.

  201. Hi, good article. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is adamantly against cutting the school climate coordinator. In fact, at the school board meeting tonight, I publicly proclaimed that if the school is worried about losing money from poor attendance, then they need to keep Mel Lewis around becuase as many know, there is a high amount of abscences due to a hostile school environment. If Davis wants to save money, it would behooveth them to keep Mel around, as his presence and encouragement to the disadvantaged kids, will increase enrollment and attendance of these kids, and decrease the potential for lawsuits against the school district due to bullying and racism.
    I also told the room full of people who were begging for the district not to cut their program that if they want to keep their programs, then they should put their money where there mouth is.
    Yes, it’s gonna cost and if we want to keep programs, we’re gonna have to pay, either in the form of taxes, or budget cuts to teachers and administrators salaries. I find it interesting, that there were many teachers there, as well as high paid administrators, but none were willing to give up a smidgen of their salaries, in order to help the students. It makes me sick, that the very same teachers, who are fighting up and down for their kids, are unwilling to give up a 1% perk in payraise in order to help out with the budget crisis. Instead, they would rather keep their jobs, their pay increase, their tax credit, erstwhile, the students are left to suffer. It’s hypocritical to say the least. Bottom line is..if we don’t want any cuts to our education, then we have to be willing to pay for it, and I don’t understand why the teacher’s union, is not fighting tooth and nail against these recent budget cuts like they did in 06. Is it because they have already gotten theirs, and they don’t care about anyone else?
    Everbody wants services, Lnobody wants to pay. Bottom line is..and dare I say the T word, but a tax increase is in order, and it’s high time that we organize and fight against Arnold for our rights, just as the right wingers fought against Gray Davis for their tax cuts.
    It’s time to move, it’s time to organize, it’s time to simply stand up and say “I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore.”

    Anyone ready to join in a political action against Arnold’s tax cuts and benefit cuts?

  202. Hi, good article. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is adamantly against cutting the school climate coordinator. In fact, at the school board meeting tonight, I publicly proclaimed that if the school is worried about losing money from poor attendance, then they need to keep Mel Lewis around becuase as many know, there is a high amount of abscences due to a hostile school environment. If Davis wants to save money, it would behooveth them to keep Mel around, as his presence and encouragement to the disadvantaged kids, will increase enrollment and attendance of these kids, and decrease the potential for lawsuits against the school district due to bullying and racism.
    I also told the room full of people who were begging for the district not to cut their program that if they want to keep their programs, then they should put their money where there mouth is.
    Yes, it’s gonna cost and if we want to keep programs, we’re gonna have to pay, either in the form of taxes, or budget cuts to teachers and administrators salaries. I find it interesting, that there were many teachers there, as well as high paid administrators, but none were willing to give up a smidgen of their salaries, in order to help the students. It makes me sick, that the very same teachers, who are fighting up and down for their kids, are unwilling to give up a 1% perk in payraise in order to help out with the budget crisis. Instead, they would rather keep their jobs, their pay increase, their tax credit, erstwhile, the students are left to suffer. It’s hypocritical to say the least. Bottom line is..if we don’t want any cuts to our education, then we have to be willing to pay for it, and I don’t understand why the teacher’s union, is not fighting tooth and nail against these recent budget cuts like they did in 06. Is it because they have already gotten theirs, and they don’t care about anyone else?
    Everbody wants services, Lnobody wants to pay. Bottom line is..and dare I say the T word, but a tax increase is in order, and it’s high time that we organize and fight against Arnold for our rights, just as the right wingers fought against Gray Davis for their tax cuts.
    It’s time to move, it’s time to organize, it’s time to simply stand up and say “I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore.”

    Anyone ready to join in a political action against Arnold’s tax cuts and benefit cuts?

  203. Hi, good article. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is adamantly against cutting the school climate coordinator. In fact, at the school board meeting tonight, I publicly proclaimed that if the school is worried about losing money from poor attendance, then they need to keep Mel Lewis around becuase as many know, there is a high amount of abscences due to a hostile school environment. If Davis wants to save money, it would behooveth them to keep Mel around, as his presence and encouragement to the disadvantaged kids, will increase enrollment and attendance of these kids, and decrease the potential for lawsuits against the school district due to bullying and racism.
    I also told the room full of people who were begging for the district not to cut their program that if they want to keep their programs, then they should put their money where there mouth is.
    Yes, it’s gonna cost and if we want to keep programs, we’re gonna have to pay, either in the form of taxes, or budget cuts to teachers and administrators salaries. I find it interesting, that there were many teachers there, as well as high paid administrators, but none were willing to give up a smidgen of their salaries, in order to help the students. It makes me sick, that the very same teachers, who are fighting up and down for their kids, are unwilling to give up a 1% perk in payraise in order to help out with the budget crisis. Instead, they would rather keep their jobs, their pay increase, their tax credit, erstwhile, the students are left to suffer. It’s hypocritical to say the least. Bottom line is..if we don’t want any cuts to our education, then we have to be willing to pay for it, and I don’t understand why the teacher’s union, is not fighting tooth and nail against these recent budget cuts like they did in 06. Is it because they have already gotten theirs, and they don’t care about anyone else?
    Everbody wants services, Lnobody wants to pay. Bottom line is..and dare I say the T word, but a tax increase is in order, and it’s high time that we organize and fight against Arnold for our rights, just as the right wingers fought against Gray Davis for their tax cuts.
    It’s time to move, it’s time to organize, it’s time to simply stand up and say “I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore.”

    Anyone ready to join in a political action against Arnold’s tax cuts and benefit cuts?

  204. Hi, good article. I’m glad I’m not the only one who is adamantly against cutting the school climate coordinator. In fact, at the school board meeting tonight, I publicly proclaimed that if the school is worried about losing money from poor attendance, then they need to keep Mel Lewis around becuase as many know, there is a high amount of abscences due to a hostile school environment. If Davis wants to save money, it would behooveth them to keep Mel around, as his presence and encouragement to the disadvantaged kids, will increase enrollment and attendance of these kids, and decrease the potential for lawsuits against the school district due to bullying and racism.
    I also told the room full of people who were begging for the district not to cut their program that if they want to keep their programs, then they should put their money where there mouth is.
    Yes, it’s gonna cost and if we want to keep programs, we’re gonna have to pay, either in the form of taxes, or budget cuts to teachers and administrators salaries. I find it interesting, that there were many teachers there, as well as high paid administrators, but none were willing to give up a smidgen of their salaries, in order to help the students. It makes me sick, that the very same teachers, who are fighting up and down for their kids, are unwilling to give up a 1% perk in payraise in order to help out with the budget crisis. Instead, they would rather keep their jobs, their pay increase, their tax credit, erstwhile, the students are left to suffer. It’s hypocritical to say the least. Bottom line is..if we don’t want any cuts to our education, then we have to be willing to pay for it, and I don’t understand why the teacher’s union, is not fighting tooth and nail against these recent budget cuts like they did in 06. Is it because they have already gotten theirs, and they don’t care about anyone else?
    Everbody wants services, Lnobody wants to pay. Bottom line is..and dare I say the T word, but a tax increase is in order, and it’s high time that we organize and fight against Arnold for our rights, just as the right wingers fought against Gray Davis for their tax cuts.
    It’s time to move, it’s time to organize, it’s time to simply stand up and say “I’m mad as hell and I’m not gonna take it anymore.”

    Anyone ready to join in a political action against Arnold’s tax cuts and benefit cuts?

  205. The inter-district transfer issue gets complicated as the student progresses through the schools. Once a district accepts a transfer, the district is legally bound to provide an education for him until 12TH grade. There’s the DHS rub. There are many places available in the elementary schools, young families can’t afford Davis. It’s at the high school level that things get crowded. Older, more financially established families can better afford Davis and are more likely to have older children. The Davis board determined that the ideal enrollment for DHS was about 1600 students. It’s been at 1800 (approx) for several years.
    About fourteen eyars ago, when our schools were bursting at the seams with enrollees, the district tried to “kick out” all inter-district transfers because of space constraints. A group of inter-district transfer parents sued and won. The county board of ed. ruled that once a district has accepted a transfer student, they are obligated to educate that student through senior high.

  206. The inter-district transfer issue gets complicated as the student progresses through the schools. Once a district accepts a transfer, the district is legally bound to provide an education for him until 12TH grade. There’s the DHS rub. There are many places available in the elementary schools, young families can’t afford Davis. It’s at the high school level that things get crowded. Older, more financially established families can better afford Davis and are more likely to have older children. The Davis board determined that the ideal enrollment for DHS was about 1600 students. It’s been at 1800 (approx) for several years.
    About fourteen eyars ago, when our schools were bursting at the seams with enrollees, the district tried to “kick out” all inter-district transfers because of space constraints. A group of inter-district transfer parents sued and won. The county board of ed. ruled that once a district has accepted a transfer student, they are obligated to educate that student through senior high.

  207. The inter-district transfer issue gets complicated as the student progresses through the schools. Once a district accepts a transfer, the district is legally bound to provide an education for him until 12TH grade. There’s the DHS rub. There are many places available in the elementary schools, young families can’t afford Davis. It’s at the high school level that things get crowded. Older, more financially established families can better afford Davis and are more likely to have older children. The Davis board determined that the ideal enrollment for DHS was about 1600 students. It’s been at 1800 (approx) for several years.
    About fourteen eyars ago, when our schools were bursting at the seams with enrollees, the district tried to “kick out” all inter-district transfers because of space constraints. A group of inter-district transfer parents sued and won. The county board of ed. ruled that once a district has accepted a transfer student, they are obligated to educate that student through senior high.

  208. The inter-district transfer issue gets complicated as the student progresses through the schools. Once a district accepts a transfer, the district is legally bound to provide an education for him until 12TH grade. There’s the DHS rub. There are many places available in the elementary schools, young families can’t afford Davis. It’s at the high school level that things get crowded. Older, more financially established families can better afford Davis and are more likely to have older children. The Davis board determined that the ideal enrollment for DHS was about 1600 students. It’s been at 1800 (approx) for several years.
    About fourteen eyars ago, when our schools were bursting at the seams with enrollees, the district tried to “kick out” all inter-district transfers because of space constraints. A group of inter-district transfer parents sued and won. The county board of ed. ruled that once a district has accepted a transfer student, they are obligated to educate that student through senior high.

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