(From Press Release) – A resolution condemning the President of the United States for his speech on Charlottesville was unanimously passed at the monthly meeting of the Yolo County Democratic Party on August 21, 2017. It also called on the Yolo County Republican Party to denounce his speech as well.
Below is a statement released alongside the resolution:
The Neo-Nazis and white supremacists in Charlottesville were not “very fine people” as the president called them Tuesday. They are racists, terrorists and fascists. They represent the most un-American values of hate, intolerance and division. And, sadly, they have found a sympathizer in this President.
This is not who we are. Too many Americans have sacrificed in military and civil rights conflicts defending our shared values of freedom, justice, inclusion, equity and opportunity. Our nation has 
made important progress in recent years. We have elected an African American President, we made marriage inclusive, and we expanded protections for immigrants. We have done a lot, but always, remember, the work is not finished. How can it be when these groups feel free to espouse their hatred. Now is the time for everyone to speak up and speak out.
These dangerous groups now feel emboldened and are planning many more rallies around the country including here in California. Wherever their message of hate and violence is spread, we need to work to bring respect, understanding and love.
We are outraged at the support the President gave to neo-nazis and the KKK last week and we urge the Yolo County Republicans to make a statement denouncing them as well.
We must all stand together to reject hate and the ideologies that seek to turn us against one another. We are all in this together. We will move forward together, or we won’t move forward at all. We know that– united and committed — we’ll continue to move forward.
That’s a lie, Trump never called the Neo-Nazi’s or the white supremacists very fine people.
When is the Yolo Democratic Party going to denounce ANTIFA?
“That’s a lie, Trump never called the Neo-Nazi’s or the white supremacists very fine people.”
As we discussed previously, he clearly did.
As I proved earlier, he clearly didn’t.
I can pull up his actual words as I did before but I doubt that will sway Trump haters because they choose to twist his words to fit their agenda.
You kept pulling up the second statement and ignoring the first.
Trump clearly stated he wasn’t including Neo-Nazis and white supremacists as being “very fine people”. Why is that so hard for you to admit?
In the second statement, he did attempt to say that. The problem as a conservative commentator pointed out, there were not non-Neo-Nazis and non-white supremacists in that crowd. So even when he attempted to back track in his second statement, it made no sense.
There you go again, you have no way of knowing that. But I get why you persist in saying it, any means to take a shot at Trump.
Eric’s point – anyone in a crowd shouting “Jews will not replace us” and “blood and soil” with a list of announced speakers who are avowed white supremacists, you have no leg to stand on in this argument.
If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck ….
People who march with a group that is chanting “Jews will not replace us” and “blood and soil” are not very fine people. They are Neo-Nazis and white supremacists.
As I recall the local progressives were marching with the Iman of the Davis Islamic Center who was saying similar things.
C’mon… when was there a march, which the iman lead or participated in, where such things were said? In this, you lie.
Or, were you using a very convoluted “metaphor”? It’s got to be one or the other…
Must have been during one of my blackouts.
You can read this to refresh yourself.
https://davisvanguard.org/2017/01/hundreds-show-central-park-support-davis-islamic-center-wake-hate-crime/
That was six months before he made his comments
Jim –
The comparison you make is absurd. The Enterprise article cited relates to the community response to the hate incident perpetrated against the Islamic Center. It predates the Imam’s anti-Semitic remarks that later came to light. The gathering was not in support of hate and did not involve the chanting of anti-Semitic slogans. To compare participation in that gathering to participation in the explicitly white supremacist event in Charlottesville is nonsensical.
That would be like saying that everyone on the left that was there was part of ANTIFA. I’m smart enough to know that’s not true.
Wrong. The anti-white supremacist demonstrators (who were not all on the left, by the way) did not join in on Antifa’s violent activities. The so-called “very fine people,” on the other hand, participated in the tiki torch demonstration. Are you smart enough to see the difference?
It’s not at all like saying it, because there were multiple groups counterprotesting. Whereas the main event was very specific.
There were also people there who were protesting the removal of the statue both at the Friday night vigil, as Trump alluded to, and on Saturday. Everyone there protesting the removal of the statue were not Neo-Nazi’s and white supremacists.
The protesters at the Friday night event were organized by Richard Spencer, and turned out to protect their “white heritage.” There is no evidence that anybody was there other than his followers. It is perfectly reasonable to say that the torch-bearing mob was entirely white supremacists and their ilk. It is not reasonable to suggest that there were peaceful people there simply trying to preserve historical monuments. There is no evidence for that. This was a mob chanting anti-Semitic slogans and carrying torches.
You have no evidence that there weren’t people there to simply protest the taking down of the statue.
Yes I do have evidence: logical deduction from the fact that the organizers of the event were well-known white supremacists. Anyone else would have just wandered into a crowd of chanting white supremacists and presumably become quickly aware of what they were doing. But those “simple” statue protectors have not been found or shown on camera or interviewed, to my knowledge.
Please find one. Please find an interview with someone who happened to be there at the Friday night torch-wielding rally, just trying to protect a statue while surrounded by white guys chanting about Jews. You find that evidence for us, please.
The Friday night protest was a white supremacist event. The attempts by Trump to make an argument of false equivalence (“both sides”) failed because those attempts had a false premise.
I say more than three times… it WAS NOT ABOUT THE STATUE OR LEE… it was a pretext/pretence to do a demonstration… and “act out”…
And some have bought the ‘bait’, hook line and sinker, and are ‘gut-hooked’… they must defend their view lest it results in the death of their position/view… Gettysburg will never be the same… the anarchists and the uber-right and uber left are ahead by 59 points with 10 seconds remaining on the game clock…
The guy who drove the car may have been associated with neo-nazis, KKK, whatever… but it is clear he was a sociopath/DUI, etc. The latter was the causation… the other was just contributing factors…
Why would the party that has championed eugenics since the beginning of the twentieth century disavow their most faithful members? [edited] Their cultivation of the disillusioned southern Democrats was fueled entirely by race hatred. Whatever lip service they may give to egalitarianism is a lie. Lying, in fact, has become their default position on race, climate change, Russian entanglements, just about everything. With Trump as their leader, what else could one expect?
Is the Yolo County Republican Party Calling on the Yolo County Democratic Party to Denounce Antifa?
Exactly, read the first comment above.
Keith
“Trump never called the Neo-Nazi’s or the white supremacists very fine people.”
I have a very simple question for you. Trump made a positive assertion that there were “very fine people there” and you seem to be backing his assertion. He was not there, and presumably you were not there either. He did not choose to provide any names or any evidence that there were “very fine people there”. So my question for you is, how do you know that there were fine people there ?
The evidence as demonstrated by social media rants pre rally, statements of the organizers, and follow up statements by participants and leaders afterward seem to indicate that the motive was not the statues but rather a demonstration of force for the purpose of intimidation. This is not twisting their words, it is literally in their words. Why are both you and Trump not taking these people at their word ?
The same way you seem to know there weren’t any fine people there. Because you don’t know.
” Why are both you and Trump not taking these people at their word ?”
In reality, they both (all) do. We are the objects of their deception by deflection, false equivalencies and outright mendacity, but be assured Trump and all his minions know the code words. Heck, Sessions probably hosts the bbq and robe bleaching.
http://thefederalistpapers.integratedmarket.netdna-cdn.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/when-repubs-freed-slaves.jpg
Republicans like this argument for some reason. But it ignores the intricacies of history. The Republican Party was more liberal on issues of civil rights up until a point. But the Civil Rights Act and Voting Rights Act were supported heavily by Northern Democrats and opposed by Southern Democrats. The Southern Democrats starting in the 1960s converted to being Republican. All the southern segregationists converted over to being Republicans eventually.
Interesting analysis of voting patterns of the Civil Rights Act 1964:
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2013/aug/28/republicans-party-of-civil-rights
Southern Republicans were completely against the Civil Rights Act. There were just fewer of them overall.
Worth noting in 1948, the southern Democrats temporarily bolted over Truman’s liberal civil rights platform. They formed the Dixiecrats under the leadership of Storm Thurmond – who would eventually become a Republican Senator.
In 1968, George Wallace ran as a third-party candidate against Nixon and Humphrey, on an explicitly segregationist platform
Feeling abandoned by both parties, Southern white racists flocked to Wallace’s cause, winning him the Deep South states of Ark., La., Miss., Ala. and Ga.
Nixon then created the southern strategy which then moved them over to Republicans.
Do you want me to continue with the history lesson?
Republicans like to refer to themselves as the Party of Lincoln. But Lincoln went to war against those who supported slavery. Today’s Republicans want to maintain statues to honor them. Times change.
Speaking of Senators, Robert Byrd a KKK Democratic Senator:
https://exposingmodernmugwumps.files.wordpress.com/2015/07/byrd.jpg
Keith –
Are you really that gullible? The photo is a fake:
http://www.snopes.com/robert-byrd-kkk-photo/
“Are you really that gullible?”
The unlikely alternative is that he’s really that disingenuous.
The GOP has been intellectually invested in eugenics since the the turn of the twentieth century.
Al. Johnson and Coolidge ginned up their justification for the 1924 immigration act based on such patently racist nonsense.
Are you denying that the longest serving Democratic Senator Robert Byrd was a KKK member and KKK recruiter?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Byrd
Why is my comment under moderation?
[moderator] Because it has eleven links in it. I’ll release it and we’ll see if it stays.
Once again, people need to understand if you post anything with more than one link it automatically goes into moderation.
Not at all; although he left the Klan in the 1940’s. But that’s not what you said. You deceptively posted a fake photo to divert attention from the topic here–the unwillingness of Republicans, in the present, to denounce Trump’s statements on the events in Charlottesville. “But what about [Obama, Hillary’s emails, LBJ, Robert Byrd, antifa, liberals, etc.]” is not a relevant response to everything. Try addressing rather than avoiding or deflecting issues once in a while.
Eric Gelber, I’m just taking a page out of the Democrat playbook. Obama and Democrats blamed Bush for 8 years during Obama’s failed presidency.
Keith – Very mature. Your comment just illustrates my point. It’s like trying to have a serious discussion with an 8-year-old. (I apologize to any 8-year-olds I may have offended.)
Oh, and let’s not forget:
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-0WhaOYiMRvY/VKD68_cTLjI/AAAAAAAAR8c/td3XgxITWRg/s1600/10004020_439071319559385_1410703510_n.jpg
There’s no question that the Republican and Democratic parties have essentially “switched roles”, over the years.
Who was Trump referring to, regarding “very fine people” on both sides? It’s unknown. But, it’s extremely unlikely that he was referring to members of white supremacist groups, in particular. Donald Trump is not known for being “careful” with speech. (This statement was, as usual, blown out of proportion, and borders on “fake news”.)
Perhaps I should clarify that I’ve never voted Republican, at least as far as I can recall. And, I have no plans to do so (although I am attracted to some principles regarding fiscal responsibility).
Do the Yolo Democrats have some evidence that the Yolo Republicans instigated or otherwise supported the unrest in Charlottesville?
Jim: I suspect that you intended to post this separately, and not as a response to my post.
You are correct, Multitasking
“The same way you seem to know there weren’t any fine people there. Because you don’t know.”
No. It is not the same at all. One can “prove” or at least provide evidence for a positive assertion which is what Trump made, and what you seemed to be backing. One cannot prove, or even often provide a convincing argument for a negative assertion. Ask a former frequent poster here who often criticized me for discussing unicorns.
Well, this whole comments thread is a microcosm of the “discussions” happening across America. If I say Nazis are bad, white supremacists are bad, the KKK is bad, and anti Semitism is bad, the response on the right is (paraphrasing here) “But what about Antifa?” or “Democrats used to be the racist Party”. I cant wait for the inevitable “black on black crime” comment followed by the “Trump isnt racist, you just dont like white people!” comment.
Everyone on the right is deflecting from the actual problem we are discussing. That being we have white supremacists and neo nazis are literally marching through the streets, killing people, and our President lacks the moral clarity and authority to denounce such groups as the repugnant people they are.
So you have some reason to believe that the Yolo Republicans are supporting the there groups?
No he doesn’t, this is all political theater.
Let him say, either he does or he is FOS.
Jim
“So you have some reason to believe that the Yolo Republicans are supporting the there groups?”
I have some reason to believe that the Young Republicans are at least sympathetic to if not actively “supporting these groups”. My evidence is the invitation to the avowed racist, misogynist Milo Yiannopoulis to campus to speak. Accompanying was Martin Skrelli who is on video walking out of the building where the event was scheduled to physically engage with one of the protestors. Can’t speak for the Yolo Republicans, but do not recall a repudiation by them at the time.
Milo Yiannopoulis is not a racist. Show proof for your allegations.
Tia:
Keith O:
So you acknowledge that Milo Yiannopoulos is a misogynist.
Don’s comment is hilarious. Just for reference are the hiphop misogyny rankings
http://exclaim.ca/images/rap3.jpg
Care to guess how many of these high profile misogynists have endorsed Democrats?
Tia:
“Yolo Republicans” and UCD “Young Republicans” are two different groups. I do not believe that you can classify Milo as either a Nazi or member of the KKK. Do you some evidence to the contrary?
Milo is an opportunistic, narcissist, “showman”… would be shocked if he has any REAL convictions of any kind… political, ideological, or moral.
Mainly a “shock jock”… ‘feeds’ on controversy…
Exactly . He is a political clown .