by Andy Jones
“I go over polls. I love polls. I love polls. Now when – if they turn negative, I don’t like them.” Donald Trump
We also love the polls –
We are the people who follow the people
Who follow the polls,
Who love the polls
The poll numbers
The poll numbers compound
The poll numbers compound our interest
The poll numbers compound our interest in the polls
The polls
The polls reflect our response to the polls –
The polls are consulted to determine how we feel –
The polls support who the polls support –
The polls support the way we feel about the polls
The hungry are hungering –
Those polled are hungering for strength –
Those polled are remembering racism fondly
And hope to bring it back again –
They are filled with hope
To make the country white again,
To make the country hate again
White people in primary states
Primarily like white people in primary states,
The people who get to decide,
The people who we like –
They are passionate people –
They are passionate followers,
Our people,
The people we like make up
In passion for what they may otherwise lack
Irish? Like
Danish? Like
Scottish? Like
Viking? Like
The people who we do not like
Are not sending their best –
They are not sending you –
They are not sending you
Check the hue
Check the color
Check the shade
Check the hue
The polls show that how the sun loves you
Is not how we love you –
We disagree with the sun –
We do not support the message of the sun –
The sun is not sending its best
Your people, some of them, I assume, good people,
Have been too loved by the sun
We have killers coming –
The bad ones are being sent over –
Cunning people who have been loved by the sun
Are sending over the people who are doing the raping –
Someone is loving the sun –
Someone who is loving the sun is doing the raping
Someone is not speaking American –
American is the primary language –
American is the language of the primaries –
Around here, you had better speak American –
Of all the colors, white is our color –
White is our primary color
The polls
The polls
The polls
The polls help us understand how we feel about you –
The polls in the primaries –
The primary states’ polls –
Primarily, it’s hue –
Primarily, it’s you –
The sun loves you –
The sun loves you too much,
so we cannot love you
The polls, the polls,
the polls say Hillary lies,
the polls, the polls
the polls say people distrust her,
the polls, the polls,
why do people still back her,
the polls, the polls,
why doesn’t Hillary listen to the polls?
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Thanks Frankly, maybe I should apply to be the next City Poet Laureate. Can conservatives apply?
Certainly, they can apply! Selection may be another matter, completely…
Yes Hpierce, I’m sure you need your liberal credentials to get almost any post in this town.
The way to happinessj: keep your heart free from hate. Keep a positive thought.
“On the Future! -how it tells
Of the rapture that impels
To the swinging and the ringingOf the bells, bells, bells,
Of the bells, bells, bells, bells,Bells, bells, bells –
To the rhyming and the chiming of the bells!”
I too find that The Bells compels.
great poem andy
Others polled remember their feeling of relevancy marching to end racism and so they hope to bring it back again –
This is a poem of a self-loathing white American kin. It will be liked by those with similar traits, and not by those happy in their own skin.
Frankly, you’re not allowed to be happy or proud in your own “white privileged” skin.
wow. everytime i want to give frankly a chance, he writes something like this. as it turns out there is not much room between trump, bp, and frankly after all.
I am a Fiorina and Rubio supporter, but Trump over Clinton and Sanders any day.
By the way, Trump supporters are secular moderates.
So apparently along with whites you would denigrate secular moderates.
Who are you supporting for President?
Or are you too embarrassed to say?
moderate and trump are contradictions in terms.
who am i supporting? i may vote for bernie sanders in the primary, i may vote for none of the above. haven’t decided yet. bernie’s not great on civil rights.
^^^^ditto to Frankly
I’m not for Trump either but will vote for anybody instead of a the liar or the socialist.
http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2015/09/09/who_are_trumps_supporters.html
Since Trump supporters are primarily women, those that denigrate Trump supporters are guilty of waging a war on women.
“Slightly over half” is not “primarily.” Slightly over half of Americans are women (50.8%).
Not sure why you consistently defend Donald Trump on the Vanguard.
Don Shor: Not sure why you consistently defend Donald Trump on the Vanguard.
So he can justify voting for him later if his favored candidates don’t win.
Trump is probably the least consistent candidate on issues (source):
“Not sure why you consistently defend Donald Trump on the Vanguard.”
Seems obvious to me.
I don’t so much defend Trump. I am defending his supporters… the same people that I consider the core of America and the real America. I am extra sensitive to their negative plight which is primarily the result of the policies of both the establishment Democrats and establishment Republicans… combined with an intolerant liberal opposition, the liberal media and the liberal-promulgated political-correctness machine.
Who are you supporting?
Unless you are willing to say I think you should probably steer clear of denigrating others who have the honesty to say.
It’s tough for them to say when your choices are either a liar or a socialist.
It’s very easy to say, as I just did. I could categorize all of the other candidates in the same disparaging manner you just did, one by one, but that seems unnecessary. We always wish that we could vote for people whose values we share, who we respect, who we connect with somehow. But prior to this election, I can’t think of one where there were so many major candidates who I simply cannot even imagine in the White House, representing our country to the world, managing foreign crises.
On any list of policies there are bound to be areas of agreement and disagreement with any candidate. We all make decisions about what is most important. War, health care, social issues, environment, fiscal/tax policies — we have to rank those things. Character obviously counts, and that’s a big part of what I have problems with Hilary Clinton about. I am not going to spend 4 – 8 years defending her. She’s not my first choice for president. But it’s where we are when the GOP field is so egregiously bad in my opinion in all other respects.
I am not presently supporting anyone. As to who I will vote for, which — as I have explained before is a different thing entirely — I will probably cast a protest vote for Sanders in the primary, then vote for Clinton in the general election because all of the leading Republicans are completely unacceptable to me.
I don’t personally know anyone who ‘supports’ Hilary Clinton. I know lots of people who support Bernie Sanders enthusiastically, but who will likely vote for Clinton in the general election.
My high school civics teacher once explained it pretty simply:
Sometimes we vote for someone.
Sometimes we vote against someone, so we are voting for the other candidate by default.
Sometimes we choose the lesser of two evils.
Well at least you put that out there.
Sure, but your party is only offering two different evils.
Frankly (because I am) I feel for my lefty friends having to chose between a chronic liar establishment politician and a grumpy old socialist that has not accomplished anything noteworthy since becoming a US Senator in 2007.
So I’m not seeing such a high horse to stand to complain about support for Trump.
And what are your reasons for not being supportive of Rubio or Fiorina other than ideological?
Short answer: war, health care, and social issues. War #1. Plus Fiorina is unqualified; I see nothing in her background that leads me to believe she would be effective.
Well, as the Republicans have made a huge point [although Democratic Party has, to a lesser extent] of shutting out not only Democrats, but non-partisan (decline to state/independent), Green, Libertarian, AIP, etc., from the presidential primary, if Don is a registered Democrat/no party/etc., why would he ‘support’ ANY Republican candidate until the general election?
As for me, just as you seem to have strong feelings that you support “anyone but Sanders or Clinton”, I have at least as strong feelings that I could, if allowed to [which I will not be, in the primary, as I have no party affiliation], support anyone other than Trump or Cruz.
The Republican Party is on the verge of being irrelevant in CA… the Democrats are trending that way, as well. Those who are neither, are well on their way to being the ‘dominant’ party.
The “big tent” that Republicans referred to years ago, is looking more like a “pup tent”. My parents were Republicans. Dad and I voted ~ 95 % the same way for years… I started out as a Democrat… Dad would have likely gone “no preference”, but he insisted in voting in the primaries, but in the general election he would vote for the ‘best person’ as Don Shor explained earlier… I still do… Don’s point resonated with me…
I’ll add another, that dad taught me… if you don’t vote, you damn well better not complain…
Speaking of Hillary, it was very interesting hearing Democrats at Bernie Sander’s Iowa campaign event chanting “She’s a liar”, “she’s a liar” over and over while she was giving a speech on overhead tv’s.
Trump appeals to the values of conservatives, anti-intellectualism, fear and authoritarianism.
http://www.sacbee.com/opinion/op-ed/soapbox/article57777593.html#storylink=mainstage
Sanders appeals to the values of liberals, anti-common sense, fear and authoritarianism.
Clinton appeals to people that don’t value the truth as much as feeling good about themselves.
Oh and because you say it, it must be true. That is a Republican value as Republicans go nowdays.
Actually, Sanders appeals to the liberal values of common sense, hope and courage over fear and democratic action from the ground up. And it is true because I say so.
Frankly said . . . “Sanders appeals to the values of liberals, anti-common sense, fear and authoritarianism. Clinton appeals to people that don’t value the truth as much as feeling good about themselves.”
Ahhhhhh the joys of a “When did you stop beating your wife?” statement. You are in rare form today Frankly.
Really? A Socialist vowing to give more free stuff with 20 trillion in national debt?
He wins 50% of the Iowa Caucus delegates tonight.
I’m not in rare form, the Democrat Party is.
Sanders would pay for his programs with tax increases. He’s said so. Were he to actually be able to accomplish that, it would have a very negative effect on GDP. But the likelihood of his enacting any of his proposals, even if he were elected by a landslide, would be nearly zero. On the other hand, presidents are perfectly capable of committing the American military to very expensive, unfunded, foolish, open-ended, catastrophic interventions without even bothering to get congressional approval. And we know those can cost trillions of dollars. So, yeah, you’re viewing fiscal irresponsibility through a very narrow partisan lens.
So Don, what you’re saying is even though Sander’s proposals would bury the economy don’t you fret because the GOP held congress would stop him from doing so. Okay, got it.
No, that is not what I said.
If Sanders were elected President how else would his agenda be stopped unless a GOP held congress refused to vote for raising taxes to fund all of his giveaways?
You seem to have a reading comprehension problem.
You seem to be dodging the question. You stated the chances of Sanders enacting all of his handouts were nearly zero, so I’m curious as to how you think he would he be stopped unless by a GOP held Congress?
You really seem to have a reading comprehension problem. My point was regarding the fiscal imprudence of both parties in certain regards.
But to answer your question, a significant percentage of Democratic House members and Senators would also oppose his fiscal policies such as Medicare for all. Even in a majority-Democratic House and/or Senate it would be unlikely that his tax and spending policies would prevail.
I’ll leave it to Sanders supporters to come here and justify his positions. I’m not a Sanders supporter.
What is really interesting this election is the Democrat split between the young people and the old people. We see a similar thing happening in Davis. The old people want to close the bars and block the building of new housing and new business that would provide job opportunities.
The Davis young people are largely oblivious, but will wake up at some point.
The national old people are going for Clinton; the national young people for Sanders.
Which basically supports my ongoing assertion that national Democrats have looted all they can and kicked the can down the road too far.
The problem is that the national young people are not yet knowledgeable enough, after their college liberal professor brainwashing of social justice political correctness and identity politics, to recognize how we got here and what we need to do to really help their plight. They want something better, but Venezuela is what they would get with Sanders.
There are a lot of “old” people who really like Sanders because he is the only one they trust not to gut Social Security and Medicare (Clinton included) and a lot of young people are smart enough to recognize that every Republican (with the possible exception of Kasich who doesn’t have a prayer) is certain to bring more war, death and destruction. They want something better and while Sanders will be stonewalled at every point, at least he is fighting for the common person and has demonstrated by the way he lives that he knows what it is like to be one of the common people. But then you already knew all that.
Dave Hart, you hit on most of the Democrat talking point lies except you left out pushing grandma off the cliff in her wheelchair.
BP, the reason they resonate as talking points is that substantial portions of the voting electorate believe them to be true.