Last fall, Trader Joe’s was the one issue in this rancorous little politically minded town that everyone agreed on. At one point someone claimed that 98% of the public supported Trader Joe’s. I’m not sure exactly where that number came from precisely, but if it wasn’t actually 98%, it was close enough that we knew there was a strong consensus.
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The question wasn’t if but when, Trader Joe’s would come to town and then they would have instant success. However, in a move I can only chalk up to corporate greed, from one of those companies you just don’t expect corporate greed from, Trader Joe’s has frittered this advantage away.
I would still guess a majority of Davisites probably favor Trader Joe’s coming, but there are now some deep-seated questions.
Their fall from grace began with the proposal in October that they would move into the corner location of University Mall on the corner of Sycamore and Russell.
There was just one problem with that plan–that spot was already occupied by Radiological Associates of Sacramento–a clinic that does radiological imaging, with a huge base of clients, many of them not very mobile, who had just sunk in a large amount of money to upgrade their on-site facilities and who had just renewed their lease, and therefore had no desire to leave.
Trader Joe’s it was said would only move into that spot and not into the vacant Westlake Shopping Center or Davis Manor locations.
Not to be deterred from their ambitions, the Davis City Council decided to change the zoning on the corner that would facilitate Trader Joe’s coming, even though a zoning change was not completely necessary, nevertheless the council was holding out the welcome mat. Then they stepped back to let the landlords finish their deal with RAS, which at that time was said to be just a formality.
The next we hear about this deal however is that the landlord is suing RAS.
At that point, I personally became alarmed, but was assured by one of the members on the council that it won’t matter to the community, they simply want a Trader Joe’s. The councilmember was flat wrong. What they forgot is that people have a particular adhorrence to lawsuits. They view them as unkempt and unnecessary. Moreover, the sympathetic partner is usually the smaller company who is being uprooted by the larger corporation. You have to have an open and shut case of being fundamentally wronged for people to be supportive of lawsuits.
What was the beginning of the shift. Suddenly 98% approval had been turned on its head. Large numbers of people began to openly question why this spot when we have open spots in Davis.
Still I think many people blamed the Santa Monica based landlord Centro Watt, who was the party that filed the lawsuit against RAS rather than Trader Joe’s for this mess. No doubt, Trader Joe’s insistence on this spot and only this spot was driving people to question their intentions.
And frankly I have always questioned this spot. First, Trader Joe’s could put their store in the middle of Oeste Ranch, and people from Davis would come in the same numbers. Second, you have severe parking issues at University Mall. Third, you have the Alford Hitchcock-esque problem with The Crows. And fourth, you are adding a huge draw to that mall which is right in the middle of the most heavily congested traffic spots in Davis between Sycamore and Anderson on Russell Blvd. Now you are going to add a store that will bring in a ton of customers without an infrastructure upgrade.
West Lake or Davis Manor just makes much more sense than University Mall. Nevertheless a lease was signed in March, even without RAS agreeing to a move.
As I said, all of these issues aside, I think most people still supported Trader Joe’s, but may have questioned their insistence on that particular location.
However, on Thursday came out the story from Claire St. John in the Davis Enterprise that Trader Joe’s has sent out press releases announcing:
“Trader Joe’s is coming to Davis! We are scheduled to open on the North East Corner of Russell/Sycamore. The store is scheduled to open in 2008.”
Now that is very interesting. For as the paper goes on to report, nothing has changed with regards to the lawsuit.
The e-mail comes at a time when a lawsuit filed by Centro Watt against RAS has yet to be resolved and nothing indicates that anything has changed between the two parties.
Attorneys for RAS said they were surprised that Trader Joe’s would jump into the mix, especially since its information seemed to be incorrect.
“In prior correspondence, the landlord’s attorney said the landlord would like to relocate RAS in either ‘spring or summer of 2009′ or ‘upon expiration of the term’ of RAS’ current lease, which is on April 30, 2010,” attorney Michael Chase wrote in an e-mail. “It is our position that Davis Imaging will be staying at its current site and servicing the Davis community.”
First of all, I think RAS has a pretty good chance of prevailing in this lawsuit. But that is almost secondary to the second point and that has to do with the speed of the legal system. It’s already July of 2007. If the lawsuit proceeds, we will be lucky if it is resolved by the end of 2008. It certainly would not be resolved in time for Trader Joe’s to do all of the massive changes that they are proposing and be able to open in 2008.
All of that leads me once again to question what Trader Joe’s is trying to do. Are they trying to brow-beat or intimidate RAS into moving? Do they expect the public in Davis that is at times very fickle is going to be supportive of this.
Frankly this move strikes as sheer arrogance on the part of Trader Joe’s. Now this is Trader Joe’s acting, not just some out of area landlord. They don’t have Centro Watt running interference for them now, they are naked and exposed and many are not liking what they are seeing.
This entire ordeal is changing my view on whether or not I want Trader Joe’s at all.
Meanwhile the Davis City Council is continuing to allow West Lake Shopping Center rot and hanging all of the other businesses out to dry with no anchor. It has been over a year since Food Fair left and amazingly all of the other entities have survived, but for how long? I’m sure people on the east side of town are saying the same about the Davis Manor.
I think the city council made a colossal mistake by signing off on a zoning change before a deal was struck, they now have no leverage at all. Davis was the perfect market for Trader Joe’s. We didn’t have to attract them, they had to sell us. And we blew it. Now this is a mess and Trader Joe’s tactics are going to backfire big time.
—Doug Paul Davis reporting
This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly. Perhaps RAS should move to West Davis since there is vacant space over there.
As for the crows – they are systematically shooting crows in Asia because crows carry influenza. Something to think about the next time you go to Starbucks, which is where I am going right now.SAH
This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly. Perhaps RAS should move to West Davis since there is vacant space over there.
As for the crows – they are systematically shooting crows in Asia because crows carry influenza. Something to think about the next time you go to Starbucks, which is where I am going right now.SAH
This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly. Perhaps RAS should move to West Davis since there is vacant space over there.
As for the crows – they are systematically shooting crows in Asia because crows carry influenza. Something to think about the next time you go to Starbucks, which is where I am going right now.SAH
This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly. Perhaps RAS should move to West Davis since there is vacant space over there.
As for the crows – they are systematically shooting crows in Asia because crows carry influenza. Something to think about the next time you go to Starbucks, which is where I am going right now.SAH
There will, in all probability, be a settlement before the trial with RAS being offered “incentives” to move(as long as they are not too onorous to the landlord) What this settlement finally comes down to will depend on both the legal merits of the arguments AND who has had control of the narrative offered to the public. RAS has clearly dominated this public narrative recently and Trader Joe’s(to strengthen the landlord’s negotiating position) is trying to get the public’s attention, “We’re coming to Davis in 2008!”
There will, in all probability, be a settlement before the trial with RAS being offered “incentives” to move(as long as they are not too onorous to the landlord) What this settlement finally comes down to will depend on both the legal merits of the arguments AND who has had control of the narrative offered to the public. RAS has clearly dominated this public narrative recently and Trader Joe’s(to strengthen the landlord’s negotiating position) is trying to get the public’s attention, “We’re coming to Davis in 2008!”
There will, in all probability, be a settlement before the trial with RAS being offered “incentives” to move(as long as they are not too onorous to the landlord) What this settlement finally comes down to will depend on both the legal merits of the arguments AND who has had control of the narrative offered to the public. RAS has clearly dominated this public narrative recently and Trader Joe’s(to strengthen the landlord’s negotiating position) is trying to get the public’s attention, “We’re coming to Davis in 2008!”
There will, in all probability, be a settlement before the trial with RAS being offered “incentives” to move(as long as they are not too onorous to the landlord) What this settlement finally comes down to will depend on both the legal merits of the arguments AND who has had control of the narrative offered to the public. RAS has clearly dominated this public narrative recently and Trader Joe’s(to strengthen the landlord’s negotiating position) is trying to get the public’s attention, “We’re coming to Davis in 2008!”
According to one of our council members, Trader Joes prefers more central locations, so did not like the Westlake site at all. They were somewhat interested in the Manor site however. I believe the council gave in much too easily. We want Trader Joes, but not at any price, I would hope. And Trader Joes wants to come here. I believe if the council had had any backbone, they could have gotten Trader Joes to go to the Manor site. Now, everything is a mess. I do not want to see Radiological Associates have to move. University Mall is absolutely not the right place for TJs for many reasons.
I, for one, will not shop at TJs if they insist on University Mall.
According to one of our council members, Trader Joes prefers more central locations, so did not like the Westlake site at all. They were somewhat interested in the Manor site however. I believe the council gave in much too easily. We want Trader Joes, but not at any price, I would hope. And Trader Joes wants to come here. I believe if the council had had any backbone, they could have gotten Trader Joes to go to the Manor site. Now, everything is a mess. I do not want to see Radiological Associates have to move. University Mall is absolutely not the right place for TJs for many reasons.
I, for one, will not shop at TJs if they insist on University Mall.
According to one of our council members, Trader Joes prefers more central locations, so did not like the Westlake site at all. They were somewhat interested in the Manor site however. I believe the council gave in much too easily. We want Trader Joes, but not at any price, I would hope. And Trader Joes wants to come here. I believe if the council had had any backbone, they could have gotten Trader Joes to go to the Manor site. Now, everything is a mess. I do not want to see Radiological Associates have to move. University Mall is absolutely not the right place for TJs for many reasons.
I, for one, will not shop at TJs if they insist on University Mall.
According to one of our council members, Trader Joes prefers more central locations, so did not like the Westlake site at all. They were somewhat interested in the Manor site however. I believe the council gave in much too easily. We want Trader Joes, but not at any price, I would hope. And Trader Joes wants to come here. I believe if the council had had any backbone, they could have gotten Trader Joes to go to the Manor site. Now, everything is a mess. I do not want to see Radiological Associates have to move. University Mall is absolutely not the right place for TJs for many reasons.
I, for one, will not shop at TJs if they insist on University Mall.
I welcome Trader Joe’s at any appropriately zoned site in Davis that doesn’t currently have a grocery store. I would have particularly loved to see them at Davis Manor or Westlake, or at the proposed Mace Ranch shopping center. I know that City Staff has tried to interest them in these sites.
But Trader Joe’s has done their analysis, and is quite firm in their decision.. Where they locate is between them and their prospective landlords. I believe that most Davis residents very much want to have them in town, and don’t want to see them go to Woodland or Dixon.
The University Mall landlord has stated that their lease allows them to move RAS to another spot in the mall, and that they will spend their own money replicating the expensive tenant improvements made by RAS. RAS, with their high-powered lawyer, has not rebutted these statements by their landlord.
University Mall is a good site. That neighborhood is currently without a grocery store, and has the highest density of housing in the City. I also believe that Mall is vulnerable. I love having Gottshalk’s there, but I have read that Gottshalk’s could be bought out by Walmart. Without their anchor, they the mall could be in trouble as they wer a few years ago.
The mall owners bought the Mall with the understanding that Davis would not zone for big box retail. The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot.
I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents. Unlike Radiological Associates, tenants were not offered the option to be relocate nearby at the landord’s expense.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
I welcome Trader Joe’s at any appropriately zoned site in Davis that doesn’t currently have a grocery store. I would have particularly loved to see them at Davis Manor or Westlake, or at the proposed Mace Ranch shopping center. I know that City Staff has tried to interest them in these sites.
But Trader Joe’s has done their analysis, and is quite firm in their decision.. Where they locate is between them and their prospective landlords. I believe that most Davis residents very much want to have them in town, and don’t want to see them go to Woodland or Dixon.
The University Mall landlord has stated that their lease allows them to move RAS to another spot in the mall, and that they will spend their own money replicating the expensive tenant improvements made by RAS. RAS, with their high-powered lawyer, has not rebutted these statements by their landlord.
University Mall is a good site. That neighborhood is currently without a grocery store, and has the highest density of housing in the City. I also believe that Mall is vulnerable. I love having Gottshalk’s there, but I have read that Gottshalk’s could be bought out by Walmart. Without their anchor, they the mall could be in trouble as they wer a few years ago.
The mall owners bought the Mall with the understanding that Davis would not zone for big box retail. The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot.
I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents. Unlike Radiological Associates, tenants were not offered the option to be relocate nearby at the landord’s expense.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
I welcome Trader Joe’s at any appropriately zoned site in Davis that doesn’t currently have a grocery store. I would have particularly loved to see them at Davis Manor or Westlake, or at the proposed Mace Ranch shopping center. I know that City Staff has tried to interest them in these sites.
But Trader Joe’s has done their analysis, and is quite firm in their decision.. Where they locate is between them and their prospective landlords. I believe that most Davis residents very much want to have them in town, and don’t want to see them go to Woodland or Dixon.
The University Mall landlord has stated that their lease allows them to move RAS to another spot in the mall, and that they will spend their own money replicating the expensive tenant improvements made by RAS. RAS, with their high-powered lawyer, has not rebutted these statements by their landlord.
University Mall is a good site. That neighborhood is currently without a grocery store, and has the highest density of housing in the City. I also believe that Mall is vulnerable. I love having Gottshalk’s there, but I have read that Gottshalk’s could be bought out by Walmart. Without their anchor, they the mall could be in trouble as they wer a few years ago.
The mall owners bought the Mall with the understanding that Davis would not zone for big box retail. The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot.
I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents. Unlike Radiological Associates, tenants were not offered the option to be relocate nearby at the landord’s expense.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
I welcome Trader Joe’s at any appropriately zoned site in Davis that doesn’t currently have a grocery store. I would have particularly loved to see them at Davis Manor or Westlake, or at the proposed Mace Ranch shopping center. I know that City Staff has tried to interest them in these sites.
But Trader Joe’s has done their analysis, and is quite firm in their decision.. Where they locate is between them and their prospective landlords. I believe that most Davis residents very much want to have them in town, and don’t want to see them go to Woodland or Dixon.
The University Mall landlord has stated that their lease allows them to move RAS to another spot in the mall, and that they will spend their own money replicating the expensive tenant improvements made by RAS. RAS, with their high-powered lawyer, has not rebutted these statements by their landlord.
University Mall is a good site. That neighborhood is currently without a grocery store, and has the highest density of housing in the City. I also believe that Mall is vulnerable. I love having Gottshalk’s there, but I have read that Gottshalk’s could be bought out by Walmart. Without their anchor, they the mall could be in trouble as they wer a few years ago.
The mall owners bought the Mall with the understanding that Davis would not zone for big box retail. The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot.
I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents. Unlike Radiological Associates, tenants were not offered the option to be relocate nearby at the landord’s expense.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
“The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot. “
Gee. Then maybe *they* should have helped out the No on K campaign.
“The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot. “
Gee. Then maybe *they* should have helped out the No on K campaign.
“The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot. “
Gee. Then maybe *they* should have helped out the No on K campaign.
“The council majority’s decision to approve Target has put a lot of retailers and commercial landlords in a difficult spot. “
Gee. Then maybe *they* should have helped out the No on K campaign.
Sue, I think the electorte of Davis – the same electorate that shot down Covell Village, elevated you to Mayor, and passed Measure J – approved Target coming to town, not the “Council Majority”
It’s hipocrasy to often refer to your vote totals with pride, and then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.
Sue, I think the electorte of Davis – the same electorate that shot down Covell Village, elevated you to Mayor, and passed Measure J – approved Target coming to town, not the “Council Majority”
It’s hipocrasy to often refer to your vote totals with pride, and then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.
Sue, I think the electorte of Davis – the same electorate that shot down Covell Village, elevated you to Mayor, and passed Measure J – approved Target coming to town, not the “Council Majority”
It’s hipocrasy to often refer to your vote totals with pride, and then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.
Sue, I think the electorte of Davis – the same electorate that shot down Covell Village, elevated you to Mayor, and passed Measure J – approved Target coming to town, not the “Council Majority”
It’s hipocrasy to often refer to your vote totals with pride, and then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.
“Meanwhile the Davis City Council is continuing to allow West Lake Shopping Center rot and hanging all of the other businesses out to dry with no anchor.”
West side residents should do a serious signature-gathering, petition effort asking for a Davis Coop second store in Westlake. There has been a change in the Coop board membership and it may be receptive to this concept.
“Meanwhile the Davis City Council is continuing to allow West Lake Shopping Center rot and hanging all of the other businesses out to dry with no anchor.”
West side residents should do a serious signature-gathering, petition effort asking for a Davis Coop second store in Westlake. There has been a change in the Coop board membership and it may be receptive to this concept.
“Meanwhile the Davis City Council is continuing to allow West Lake Shopping Center rot and hanging all of the other businesses out to dry with no anchor.”
West side residents should do a serious signature-gathering, petition effort asking for a Davis Coop second store in Westlake. There has been a change in the Coop board membership and it may be receptive to this concept.
“Meanwhile the Davis City Council is continuing to allow West Lake Shopping Center rot and hanging all of the other businesses out to dry with no anchor.”
West side residents should do a serious signature-gathering, petition effort asking for a Davis Coop second store in Westlake. There has been a change in the Coop board membership and it may be receptive to this concept.
“.. then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.”
After spending near 1/2 million dollars, Measure K won by 500 votes, most coming from a well-financed campaign directed towards UCD students… hardly a clear victory.
“.. then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.”
After spending near 1/2 million dollars, Measure K won by 500 votes, most coming from a well-financed campaign directed towards UCD students… hardly a clear victory.
“.. then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.”
After spending near 1/2 million dollars, Measure K won by 500 votes, most coming from a well-financed campaign directed towards UCD students… hardly a clear victory.
“.. then ignore what voters said about wanting a Target.”
After spending near 1/2 million dollars, Measure K won by 500 votes, most coming from a well-financed campaign directed towards UCD students… hardly a clear victory.
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
Prediction: In 2010 Trader Joe’s will be operating in Davis and Rexroad walks into re-election in Woodland.
Prediction: In 2010 Trader Joe’s will be operating in Davis and Rexroad walks into re-election in Woodland.
Prediction: In 2010 Trader Joe’s will be operating in Davis and Rexroad walks into re-election in Woodland.
Prediction: In 2010 Trader Joe’s will be operating in Davis and Rexroad walks into re-election in Woodland.
I will shop at Trader Joe’s anywhere they land. Retail is a tough business. If they want to battle it out with RAS, that’s their choice. How about RAS moving to Westlake? Right now the parking lot is a ghost town.
I will shop at Trader Joe’s anywhere they land. Retail is a tough business. If they want to battle it out with RAS, that’s their choice. How about RAS moving to Westlake? Right now the parking lot is a ghost town.
I will shop at Trader Joe’s anywhere they land. Retail is a tough business. If they want to battle it out with RAS, that’s their choice. How about RAS moving to Westlake? Right now the parking lot is a ghost town.
I will shop at Trader Joe’s anywhere they land. Retail is a tough business. If they want to battle it out with RAS, that’s their choice. How about RAS moving to Westlake? Right now the parking lot is a ghost town.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
this is an issue that i’ve noticed of late, but haven’t seen much in the way of coverage or public discussion on. how might we change the dynamics of the commercial rental market to enable the local stores to stay in business?
as for trader joe’s, it would be fantastic in westlake (or as i tend to reflexively call it, “farmtown’), where it is not only blessed with tons of empty parking spaces but also surrounded by an ideal mix (for TJ) of dense student-occupied apartments and boomer homeowners. a co-op or TJ’s would be fantastic in that location, the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly and did not target them to the demands of the neighborhood.
trader joe’s could be located in a duplex without posting signs or offering parking, and peple would beat a path to their door. if people in stonegate can manage to drive across town to buy our groceries, people in the rest of town will figure out how to cross 113 on covell or russell somehow.
the lawsuit business is rather obnoxious, but the thing that really set the mess up is the council changing he zoning to allow IGA to be replaced by the costplus kitsch emporium instead of a grocery store to serve the neighborhood. then, when covell village got shot down, TJ would have had the option of moving into state market’s old slot, and RAS would not be in their current bind of having signed a lease and shielded their facility.
mostly i just want a grocery on the west side of 113.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
this is an issue that i’ve noticed of late, but haven’t seen much in the way of coverage or public discussion on. how might we change the dynamics of the commercial rental market to enable the local stores to stay in business?
as for trader joe’s, it would be fantastic in westlake (or as i tend to reflexively call it, “farmtown’), where it is not only blessed with tons of empty parking spaces but also surrounded by an ideal mix (for TJ) of dense student-occupied apartments and boomer homeowners. a co-op or TJ’s would be fantastic in that location, the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly and did not target them to the demands of the neighborhood.
trader joe’s could be located in a duplex without posting signs or offering parking, and peple would beat a path to their door. if people in stonegate can manage to drive across town to buy our groceries, people in the rest of town will figure out how to cross 113 on covell or russell somehow.
the lawsuit business is rather obnoxious, but the thing that really set the mess up is the council changing he zoning to allow IGA to be replaced by the costplus kitsch emporium instead of a grocery store to serve the neighborhood. then, when covell village got shot down, TJ would have had the option of moving into state market’s old slot, and RAS would not be in their current bind of having signed a lease and shielded their facility.
mostly i just want a grocery on the west side of 113.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
this is an issue that i’ve noticed of late, but haven’t seen much in the way of coverage or public discussion on. how might we change the dynamics of the commercial rental market to enable the local stores to stay in business?
as for trader joe’s, it would be fantastic in westlake (or as i tend to reflexively call it, “farmtown’), where it is not only blessed with tons of empty parking spaces but also surrounded by an ideal mix (for TJ) of dense student-occupied apartments and boomer homeowners. a co-op or TJ’s would be fantastic in that location, the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly and did not target them to the demands of the neighborhood.
trader joe’s could be located in a duplex without posting signs or offering parking, and peple would beat a path to their door. if people in stonegate can manage to drive across town to buy our groceries, people in the rest of town will figure out how to cross 113 on covell or russell somehow.
the lawsuit business is rather obnoxious, but the thing that really set the mess up is the council changing he zoning to allow IGA to be replaced by the costplus kitsch emporium instead of a grocery store to serve the neighborhood. then, when covell village got shot down, TJ would have had the option of moving into state market’s old slot, and RAS would not be in their current bind of having signed a lease and shielded their facility.
mostly i just want a grocery on the west side of 113.
There are many, many small local merchants in Davis who are currently loosing their livelihood do to evictions and higher retail rents. RAS seems to be among the more fortunate of businesses in this regard.
this is an issue that i’ve noticed of late, but haven’t seen much in the way of coverage or public discussion on. how might we change the dynamics of the commercial rental market to enable the local stores to stay in business?
as for trader joe’s, it would be fantastic in westlake (or as i tend to reflexively call it, “farmtown’), where it is not only blessed with tons of empty parking spaces but also surrounded by an ideal mix (for TJ) of dense student-occupied apartments and boomer homeowners. a co-op or TJ’s would be fantastic in that location, the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly and did not target them to the demands of the neighborhood.
trader joe’s could be located in a duplex without posting signs or offering parking, and peple would beat a path to their door. if people in stonegate can manage to drive across town to buy our groceries, people in the rest of town will figure out how to cross 113 on covell or russell somehow.
the lawsuit business is rather obnoxious, but the thing that really set the mess up is the council changing he zoning to allow IGA to be replaced by the costplus kitsch emporium instead of a grocery store to serve the neighborhood. then, when covell village got shot down, TJ would have had the option of moving into state market’s old slot, and RAS would not be in their current bind of having signed a lease and shielded their facility.
mostly i just want a grocery on the west side of 113.
oh, and crows don’t carry influenza, it’s waterfowl like ducks and geese that typically incubate the virus, and then spread it through their feces. so university mall is OK, but stonegate lake would be a major vector for the bird flu, should one break out.
crows, like all corvids, are involved in the west nile virus cycle, though. by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?
oh, and crows don’t carry influenza, it’s waterfowl like ducks and geese that typically incubate the virus, and then spread it through their feces. so university mall is OK, but stonegate lake would be a major vector for the bird flu, should one break out.
crows, like all corvids, are involved in the west nile virus cycle, though. by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?
oh, and crows don’t carry influenza, it’s waterfowl like ducks and geese that typically incubate the virus, and then spread it through their feces. so university mall is OK, but stonegate lake would be a major vector for the bird flu, should one break out.
crows, like all corvids, are involved in the west nile virus cycle, though. by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?
oh, and crows don’t carry influenza, it’s waterfowl like ducks and geese that typically incubate the virus, and then spread it through their feces. so university mall is OK, but stonegate lake would be a major vector for the bird flu, should one break out.
crows, like all corvids, are involved in the west nile virus cycle, though. by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?
“by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?”
This time, our Council needs to demand a detailed comparison of mosquito populations and incidence of West Nile human infection between last summer’s spraying and summers where there was no spraying.
“by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?”
This time, our Council needs to demand a detailed comparison of mosquito populations and incidence of West Nile human infection between last summer’s spraying and summers where there was no spraying.
“by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?”
This time, our Council needs to demand a detailed comparison of mosquito populations and incidence of West Nile human infection between last summer’s spraying and summers where there was no spraying.
“by the way, sue, are we going to get fumigated again this fall, has that come up for discussion in the council chambers yet?”
This time, our Council needs to demand a detailed comparison of mosquito populations and incidence of West Nile human infection between last summer’s spraying and summers where there was no spraying.
i suspect that a larger variable would be the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring. i haven’t noticed nearly as many mosquitos outside this year.
mostly i’m just curious if the council discussions on such things begin in advance, or if they’re hastily held just at the moment of crisis.
i suspect that a larger variable would be the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring. i haven’t noticed nearly as many mosquitos outside this year.
mostly i’m just curious if the council discussions on such things begin in advance, or if they’re hastily held just at the moment of crisis.
i suspect that a larger variable would be the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring. i haven’t noticed nearly as many mosquitos outside this year.
mostly i’m just curious if the council discussions on such things begin in advance, or if they’re hastily held just at the moment of crisis.
i suspect that a larger variable would be the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring. i haven’t noticed nearly as many mosquitos outside this year.
mostly i’m just curious if the council discussions on such things begin in advance, or if they’re hastily held just at the moment of crisis.
It is not a city council decision. They can demand whatever they want. It is a public health issue, and spraying decisions will be made by the county public health department.
It is not a city council decision. They can demand whatever they want. It is a public health issue, and spraying decisions will be made by the county public health department.
It is not a city council decision. They can demand whatever they want. It is a public health issue, and spraying decisions will be made by the county public health department.
It is not a city council decision. They can demand whatever they want. It is a public health issue, and spraying decisions will be made by the county public health department.
“…the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly…”
Once the Marketplace opened, any grocery store in that location was doomed. I’d be very surprised if any grocery store locates there again.
“…the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly…”
Once the Marketplace opened, any grocery store in that location was doomed. I’d be very surprised if any grocery store locates there again.
“…the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly…”
Once the Marketplace opened, any grocery store in that location was doomed. I’d be very surprised if any grocery store locates there again.
“…the prior grocery stores went down because they ran their businesses poorly…”
Once the Marketplace opened, any grocery store in that location was doomed. I’d be very surprised if any grocery store locates there again.
If they force RAS out I will definitely NOT shop at Trader Joe’s. I like them, but come on, who needs a store like that it town?
If they force RAS out I will definitely NOT shop at Trader Joe’s. I like them, but come on, who needs a store like that it town?
If they force RAS out I will definitely NOT shop at Trader Joe’s. I like them, but come on, who needs a store like that it town?
If they force RAS out I will definitely NOT shop at Trader Joe’s. I like them, but come on, who needs a store like that it town?
I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness. This is not common for Trader Joe’s so I disagree with you Don Shor, a Trader Joe’s would in fact succeed at Westlake Plaza.
The landlord of Westlake needs to do some work, by council ENFORCEMENT, and not let him let his place turn to blight.
I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness. This is not common for Trader Joe’s so I disagree with you Don Shor, a Trader Joe’s would in fact succeed at Westlake Plaza.
The landlord of Westlake needs to do some work, by council ENFORCEMENT, and not let him let his place turn to blight.
I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness. This is not common for Trader Joe’s so I disagree with you Don Shor, a Trader Joe’s would in fact succeed at Westlake Plaza.
The landlord of Westlake needs to do some work, by council ENFORCEMENT, and not let him let his place turn to blight.
I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness. This is not common for Trader Joe’s so I disagree with you Don Shor, a Trader Joe’s would in fact succeed at Westlake Plaza.
The landlord of Westlake needs to do some work, by council ENFORCEMENT, and not let him let his place turn to blight.
Davisite, since when did you become Mayor Sue Greenwald’s spokesperson?
The question was asked of her and not of you. Thank you.
Davisite, since when did you become Mayor Sue Greenwald’s spokesperson?
The question was asked of her and not of you. Thank you.
Davisite, since when did you become Mayor Sue Greenwald’s spokesperson?
The question was asked of her and not of you. Thank you.
Davisite, since when did you become Mayor Sue Greenwald’s spokesperson?
The question was asked of her and not of you. Thank you.
Anonymous 8:56 a.m. –
I’d like to draw a comparison between the A(smundson) S(aylor) S(ouza) and Target.
Like Target Corp., they all portray themselves to be something that they are NOT.
Target = We’re green not red. We are also environmentally friendly.
Asmundson,Saylor,Souza =
We’re democrats, we care about the environment, we care about small businesses even though we bring a big box to town. Oh, and we are very civil in our discourse even though we are rude to people who come to speak during public comment and rude to other council members.
Anonymous 8:56 a.m. –
I’d like to draw a comparison between the A(smundson) S(aylor) S(ouza) and Target.
Like Target Corp., they all portray themselves to be something that they are NOT.
Target = We’re green not red. We are also environmentally friendly.
Asmundson,Saylor,Souza =
We’re democrats, we care about the environment, we care about small businesses even though we bring a big box to town. Oh, and we are very civil in our discourse even though we are rude to people who come to speak during public comment and rude to other council members.
Anonymous 8:56 a.m. –
I’d like to draw a comparison between the A(smundson) S(aylor) S(ouza) and Target.
Like Target Corp., they all portray themselves to be something that they are NOT.
Target = We’re green not red. We are also environmentally friendly.
Asmundson,Saylor,Souza =
We’re democrats, we care about the environment, we care about small businesses even though we bring a big box to town. Oh, and we are very civil in our discourse even though we are rude to people who come to speak during public comment and rude to other council members.
Anonymous 8:56 a.m. –
I’d like to draw a comparison between the A(smundson) S(aylor) S(ouza) and Target.
Like Target Corp., they all portray themselves to be something that they are NOT.
Target = We’re green not red. We are also environmentally friendly.
Asmundson,Saylor,Souza =
We’re democrats, we care about the environment, we care about small businesses even though we bring a big box to town. Oh, and we are very civil in our discourse even though we are rude to people who come to speak during public comment and rude to other council members.
Why is everybody so big on trader joe. Trader joe is owned by a couple of German billionaires who also own Aldi supermarkets in Europe and the eastern U.S. I had the ocassion to haul some fresh produce in to their fresh warehouse in Stockton. When I looked for a name on the warehouse address given, I did not see Trader Joe but Mike Campbell and Associates. When I came home I googled this name and come to find out that it is a logistics company with only one customer: Trader Joe.
The google listing referred to some kind of unfair labor practice. Trader joe thus can avoid bad publicity for unfair labor practices. Also I have heard more than 1 story about their trading practices. They will encourage a vendor to make or sell them a product. Once the vendor has geared up for the product and get it going in their store they will come back and say we like your product and it is doig well, but in order to continue carrying it you have to lower the price. Another objection is that most products are private label so you have no idea where it comes from. Also alot of their produce is needlessly overpackaged.thus creating more trash. Stay with the coop and farmers market. Support your local economy
Why is everybody so big on trader joe. Trader joe is owned by a couple of German billionaires who also own Aldi supermarkets in Europe and the eastern U.S. I had the ocassion to haul some fresh produce in to their fresh warehouse in Stockton. When I looked for a name on the warehouse address given, I did not see Trader Joe but Mike Campbell and Associates. When I came home I googled this name and come to find out that it is a logistics company with only one customer: Trader Joe.
The google listing referred to some kind of unfair labor practice. Trader joe thus can avoid bad publicity for unfair labor practices. Also I have heard more than 1 story about their trading practices. They will encourage a vendor to make or sell them a product. Once the vendor has geared up for the product and get it going in their store they will come back and say we like your product and it is doig well, but in order to continue carrying it you have to lower the price. Another objection is that most products are private label so you have no idea where it comes from. Also alot of their produce is needlessly overpackaged.thus creating more trash. Stay with the coop and farmers market. Support your local economy
Why is everybody so big on trader joe. Trader joe is owned by a couple of German billionaires who also own Aldi supermarkets in Europe and the eastern U.S. I had the ocassion to haul some fresh produce in to their fresh warehouse in Stockton. When I looked for a name on the warehouse address given, I did not see Trader Joe but Mike Campbell and Associates. When I came home I googled this name and come to find out that it is a logistics company with only one customer: Trader Joe.
The google listing referred to some kind of unfair labor practice. Trader joe thus can avoid bad publicity for unfair labor practices. Also I have heard more than 1 story about their trading practices. They will encourage a vendor to make or sell them a product. Once the vendor has geared up for the product and get it going in their store they will come back and say we like your product and it is doig well, but in order to continue carrying it you have to lower the price. Another objection is that most products are private label so you have no idea where it comes from. Also alot of their produce is needlessly overpackaged.thus creating more trash. Stay with the coop and farmers market. Support your local economy
Why is everybody so big on trader joe. Trader joe is owned by a couple of German billionaires who also own Aldi supermarkets in Europe and the eastern U.S. I had the ocassion to haul some fresh produce in to their fresh warehouse in Stockton. When I looked for a name on the warehouse address given, I did not see Trader Joe but Mike Campbell and Associates. When I came home I googled this name and come to find out that it is a logistics company with only one customer: Trader Joe.
The google listing referred to some kind of unfair labor practice. Trader joe thus can avoid bad publicity for unfair labor practices. Also I have heard more than 1 story about their trading practices. They will encourage a vendor to make or sell them a product. Once the vendor has geared up for the product and get it going in their store they will come back and say we like your product and it is doig well, but in order to continue carrying it you have to lower the price. Another objection is that most products are private label so you have no idea where it comes from. Also alot of their produce is needlessly overpackaged.thus creating more trash. Stay with the coop and farmers market. Support your local economy
“… the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring.”
Anyone know the distance that a mosquito usually travels from its standing pool of water hatchery? I would imagine that most standing pools in Davis proper are from irrigation and other residential collections rather than rain once our rainy season ends.
“… the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring.”
Anyone know the distance that a mosquito usually travels from its standing pool of water hatchery? I would imagine that most standing pools in Davis proper are from irrigation and other residential collections rather than rain once our rainy season ends.
“… the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring.”
Anyone know the distance that a mosquito usually travels from its standing pool of water hatchery? I would imagine that most standing pools in Davis proper are from irrigation and other residential collections rather than rain once our rainy season ends.
“… the rates of infection following a very wet spring and following a bone-dry spring.”
Anyone know the distance that a mosquito usually travels from its standing pool of water hatchery? I would imagine that most standing pools in Davis proper are from irrigation and other residential collections rather than rain once our rainy season ends.
“I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness.”
I thought Ray’s was a nice store with mostly decent prices. The reason Ray’s failed was largely because the people who live in Stonegate and that area prefered to shop at Safeway, a much bigger store with far more selection and departments.
“I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness.”
I thought Ray’s was a nice store with mostly decent prices. The reason Ray’s failed was largely because the people who live in Stonegate and that area prefered to shop at Safeway, a much bigger store with far more selection and departments.
“I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness.”
I thought Ray’s was a nice store with mostly decent prices. The reason Ray’s failed was largely because the people who live in Stonegate and that area prefered to shop at Safeway, a much bigger store with far more selection and departments.
“I live not too far from West Lake and I will tell you that the grocery stores that have been here (the last 3 to 4) were TERRIBLE quality! Poor produce, meat, overall cleanliness.”
I thought Ray’s was a nice store with mostly decent prices. The reason Ray’s failed was largely because the people who live in Stonegate and that area prefered to shop at Safeway, a much bigger store with far more selection and departments.
Having lived next to Ray’s and then Food Fair, both stores had higher prices than the average grocery store, in addition they had fewer sales, fewer selection, and frequently had a huge problem restocking their foods. It was a good place to shop when I had a few things to get and didn’t want to deal with the traffic and parking and lines at Safeway, but for buying in bulk, Safeway was far far cheaper and that is why I went there more except for when there was the labor strike during which time I went to Nugget and the Co-op both on the other side of town.
But if you put a Trader Joe’s in there, people would come from all over town to shop there, so that’s not really a question.
Having lived next to Ray’s and then Food Fair, both stores had higher prices than the average grocery store, in addition they had fewer sales, fewer selection, and frequently had a huge problem restocking their foods. It was a good place to shop when I had a few things to get and didn’t want to deal with the traffic and parking and lines at Safeway, but for buying in bulk, Safeway was far far cheaper and that is why I went there more except for when there was the labor strike during which time I went to Nugget and the Co-op both on the other side of town.
But if you put a Trader Joe’s in there, people would come from all over town to shop there, so that’s not really a question.
Having lived next to Ray’s and then Food Fair, both stores had higher prices than the average grocery store, in addition they had fewer sales, fewer selection, and frequently had a huge problem restocking their foods. It was a good place to shop when I had a few things to get and didn’t want to deal with the traffic and parking and lines at Safeway, but for buying in bulk, Safeway was far far cheaper and that is why I went there more except for when there was the labor strike during which time I went to Nugget and the Co-op both on the other side of town.
But if you put a Trader Joe’s in there, people would come from all over town to shop there, so that’s not really a question.
Having lived next to Ray’s and then Food Fair, both stores had higher prices than the average grocery store, in addition they had fewer sales, fewer selection, and frequently had a huge problem restocking their foods. It was a good place to shop when I had a few things to get and didn’t want to deal with the traffic and parking and lines at Safeway, but for buying in bulk, Safeway was far far cheaper and that is why I went there more except for when there was the labor strike during which time I went to Nugget and the Co-op both on the other side of town.
But if you put a Trader Joe’s in there, people would come from all over town to shop there, so that’s not really a question.
The Right Honorable Mayor of Our Prestigious Little Burg wrote: “I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents.”
Who are these three unnamed merchants? I feel bad for them and their customers. But I’m not sure that such situations merit public involvement (and assume you agree with that).
The two reasons for displacement which you mention are, of course, quite different:
1) an excessively high rent is relative only to the income the business is able to generate. If a landlord wants to have a tenant, he will never charge ‘an excessively high rent’ for the market. If he did, his income would be zero.
2) Tearing down a building? I’m trying to think of a commercial building in town that is now set for demolition and none comes to mind. When buildings are demolished, it is usually in order to make way for a new structure. I would be surprised to hear this is not the case with the property you are thinking of. So while such activity will displace a current tenant, it’s a temporary situation for Davis.
The Right Honorable Mayor of Our Prestigious Little Burg wrote: “I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents.”
Who are these three unnamed merchants? I feel bad for them and their customers. But I’m not sure that such situations merit public involvement (and assume you agree with that).
The two reasons for displacement which you mention are, of course, quite different:
1) an excessively high rent is relative only to the income the business is able to generate. If a landlord wants to have a tenant, he will never charge ‘an excessively high rent’ for the market. If he did, his income would be zero.
2) Tearing down a building? I’m trying to think of a commercial building in town that is now set for demolition and none comes to mind. When buildings are demolished, it is usually in order to make way for a new structure. I would be surprised to hear this is not the case with the property you are thinking of. So while such activity will displace a current tenant, it’s a temporary situation for Davis.
The Right Honorable Mayor of Our Prestigious Little Burg wrote: “I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents.”
Who are these three unnamed merchants? I feel bad for them and their customers. But I’m not sure that such situations merit public involvement (and assume you agree with that).
The two reasons for displacement which you mention are, of course, quite different:
1) an excessively high rent is relative only to the income the business is able to generate. If a landlord wants to have a tenant, he will never charge ‘an excessively high rent’ for the market. If he did, his income would be zero.
2) Tearing down a building? I’m trying to think of a commercial building in town that is now set for demolition and none comes to mind. When buildings are demolished, it is usually in order to make way for a new structure. I would be surprised to hear this is not the case with the property you are thinking of. So while such activity will displace a current tenant, it’s a temporary situation for Davis.
The Right Honorable Mayor of Our Prestigious Little Burg wrote: “I know of three local independent merchants who have served us for almost 60 years, and have lost their leases recently due to either the tearing down of their buildings for larger projects or excessively high downtown rents.”
Who are these three unnamed merchants? I feel bad for them and their customers. But I’m not sure that such situations merit public involvement (and assume you agree with that).
The two reasons for displacement which you mention are, of course, quite different:
1) an excessively high rent is relative only to the income the business is able to generate. If a landlord wants to have a tenant, he will never charge ‘an excessively high rent’ for the market. If he did, his income would be zero.
2) Tearing down a building? I’m trying to think of a commercial building in town that is now set for demolition and none comes to mind. When buildings are demolished, it is usually in order to make way for a new structure. I would be surprised to hear this is not the case with the property you are thinking of. So while such activity will displace a current tenant, it’s a temporary situation for Davis.
Anonymous said…
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
An observation that I think suggests: Get out there to campaign and support your candidate in 2010.. Grassroots power,with a little more effort, can win the day in 2010.
Anonymous said…
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
An observation that I think suggests: Get out there to campaign and support your candidate in 2010.. Grassroots power,with a little more effort, can win the day in 2010.
Anonymous said…
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
An observation that I think suggests: Get out there to campaign and support your candidate in 2010.. Grassroots power,with a little more effort, can win the day in 2010.
Anonymous said…
I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes. Remember that in 2010.
An observation that I think suggests: Get out there to campaign and support your candidate in 2010.. Grassroots power,with a little more effort, can win the day in 2010.
“I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes.”
Just to correct the record, Rexroad whipped Sieferman by 800 votes, not ‘a few hundred.’ Sieferman was the incumbent. Rexroad was the challenger. Sieferman was backed by all the Democratic bigwigs in a mostly Democratic city. He was also backed by Thomson, Yamada and Magowan. Sieferman had tremendous name recognition and a long record to run on. And yet, the Republican, Rexroad, defeated him in the runoff by 8 percent. It was a rather impressive performance by the far smarter, far better candidate.
Also, in the primary, Rexroad beat Sieferman by 730 votes. That 14.5% crushing was impressive also.
Ultimately, the reason that the Democratic candidate was whipped in a Democratic town was not due to money or any other nefarious factors. Rexroad was a great candidate with excellent ideas and the ability to communicate them. Sieferman was a poor candidate, unable to express himself verbally, badly organized and completely out of ideas.
Woodland and Yolo County are fortunate to have Rexroad on the BOS.
“I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes.”
Just to correct the record, Rexroad whipped Sieferman by 800 votes, not ‘a few hundred.’ Sieferman was the incumbent. Rexroad was the challenger. Sieferman was backed by all the Democratic bigwigs in a mostly Democratic city. He was also backed by Thomson, Yamada and Magowan. Sieferman had tremendous name recognition and a long record to run on. And yet, the Republican, Rexroad, defeated him in the runoff by 8 percent. It was a rather impressive performance by the far smarter, far better candidate.
Also, in the primary, Rexroad beat Sieferman by 730 votes. That 14.5% crushing was impressive also.
Ultimately, the reason that the Democratic candidate was whipped in a Democratic town was not due to money or any other nefarious factors. Rexroad was a great candidate with excellent ideas and the ability to communicate them. Sieferman was a poor candidate, unable to express himself verbally, badly organized and completely out of ideas.
Woodland and Yolo County are fortunate to have Rexroad on the BOS.
“I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes.”
Just to correct the record, Rexroad whipped Sieferman by 800 votes, not ‘a few hundred.’ Sieferman was the incumbent. Rexroad was the challenger. Sieferman was backed by all the Democratic bigwigs in a mostly Democratic city. He was also backed by Thomson, Yamada and Magowan. Sieferman had tremendous name recognition and a long record to run on. And yet, the Republican, Rexroad, defeated him in the runoff by 8 percent. It was a rather impressive performance by the far smarter, far better candidate.
Also, in the primary, Rexroad beat Sieferman by 730 votes. That 14.5% crushing was impressive also.
Ultimately, the reason that the Democratic candidate was whipped in a Democratic town was not due to money or any other nefarious factors. Rexroad was a great candidate with excellent ideas and the ability to communicate them. Sieferman was a poor candidate, unable to express himself verbally, badly organized and completely out of ideas.
Woodland and Yolo County are fortunate to have Rexroad on the BOS.
“I’d like to draw a parallel between the Target ‘victory’, and Rexroad’s ‘victory’. Both spent large sums of money to ‘win’ by only a few hundred votes.”
Just to correct the record, Rexroad whipped Sieferman by 800 votes, not ‘a few hundred.’ Sieferman was the incumbent. Rexroad was the challenger. Sieferman was backed by all the Democratic bigwigs in a mostly Democratic city. He was also backed by Thomson, Yamada and Magowan. Sieferman had tremendous name recognition and a long record to run on. And yet, the Republican, Rexroad, defeated him in the runoff by 8 percent. It was a rather impressive performance by the far smarter, far better candidate.
Also, in the primary, Rexroad beat Sieferman by 730 votes. That 14.5% crushing was impressive also.
Ultimately, the reason that the Democratic candidate was whipped in a Democratic town was not due to money or any other nefarious factors. Rexroad was a great candidate with excellent ideas and the ability to communicate them. Sieferman was a poor candidate, unable to express himself verbally, badly organized and completely out of ideas.
Woodland and Yolo County are fortunate to have Rexroad on the BOS.
Anonymous – 7/14/07 6:49 AM wrote:
“This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly.”
Well, there’s one other thing preventing RAS from moving. Common sense. Considering that RAS has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in upgrading its present facility, it is incredibly wasteful to even think about moving RAS out of there.
Also, parking. If Trader Joe’s moves in there, the next thing you’ll see is its demands for more parking. Knocking down part of University Mall perhaps? Or building a five story parking structure? Then, major gridlock on the busiest corner in Davis, Anderson and Russell…
Can you see where this is going? Huge expense (& profits for developers/contractors)at the expense of common sense and a liveable neighborhood around University Mall.
Let Trader Joe’s locate in Davis Manor or Westlake Shopping Center, where none of these problems will be caused.
Anonymous – 7/14/07 6:49 AM wrote:
“This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly.”
Well, there’s one other thing preventing RAS from moving. Common sense. Considering that RAS has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in upgrading its present facility, it is incredibly wasteful to even think about moving RAS out of there.
Also, parking. If Trader Joe’s moves in there, the next thing you’ll see is its demands for more parking. Knocking down part of University Mall perhaps? Or building a five story parking structure? Then, major gridlock on the busiest corner in Davis, Anderson and Russell…
Can you see where this is going? Huge expense (& profits for developers/contractors)at the expense of common sense and a liveable neighborhood around University Mall.
Let Trader Joe’s locate in Davis Manor or Westlake Shopping Center, where none of these problems will be caused.
Anonymous – 7/14/07 6:49 AM wrote:
“This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly.”
Well, there’s one other thing preventing RAS from moving. Common sense. Considering that RAS has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in upgrading its present facility, it is incredibly wasteful to even think about moving RAS out of there.
Also, parking. If Trader Joe’s moves in there, the next thing you’ll see is its demands for more parking. Knocking down part of University Mall perhaps? Or building a five story parking structure? Then, major gridlock on the busiest corner in Davis, Anderson and Russell…
Can you see where this is going? Huge expense (& profits for developers/contractors)at the expense of common sense and a liveable neighborhood around University Mall.
Let Trader Joe’s locate in Davis Manor or Westlake Shopping Center, where none of these problems will be caused.
Anonymous – 7/14/07 6:49 AM wrote:
“This is all part of the negotiation process. By clarifying its position, Trader Joes helps motivate a deal to be struck between RAS and the landlord (Centro Watt). The only thing preventing RAS from moving is adequate compensation. If anything, the Trader Joes announcement provides RAS with more cards to negotiate with – the landlord is being forced to clear the space rather quickly.”
Well, there’s one other thing preventing RAS from moving. Common sense. Considering that RAS has invested hundreds of thousands of dollars in upgrading its present facility, it is incredibly wasteful to even think about moving RAS out of there.
Also, parking. If Trader Joe’s moves in there, the next thing you’ll see is its demands for more parking. Knocking down part of University Mall perhaps? Or building a five story parking structure? Then, major gridlock on the busiest corner in Davis, Anderson and Russell…
Can you see where this is going? Huge expense (& profits for developers/contractors)at the expense of common sense and a liveable neighborhood around University Mall.
Let Trader Joe’s locate in Davis Manor or Westlake Shopping Center, where none of these problems will be caused.
I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak. In contrast, I’m am certain that RAS will do quite handsomely when they receive the compensation for their new location.
I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak. In contrast, I’m am certain that RAS will do quite handsomely when they receive the compensation for their new location.
I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak. In contrast, I’m am certain that RAS will do quite handsomely when they receive the compensation for their new location.
I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak. In contrast, I’m am certain that RAS will do quite handsomely when they receive the compensation for their new location.
Re: The Bike Exchange!
Anonymous 7/15/07 5:54 PM
wrote:
“I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak.”
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Can this be true?
If so, its a travesty!
Rich is a great guy, has done me some great deals on bike parts and keeping my bike fit in general…always with a ready wit and willingness to entertain my lame attempts at same. A true hallmark of a local small businessman, always, eventually, with that little something, that makes us human–read: “dicker and deal.”
Am going to find out the name and address of this landlord, no doubt available at the “City” of Davis’s Assessor’s Office and write a letter of support for the Bike Exchange to this landlord.
I encourage all former or not starving students/others to do the same…
The Bike Exchange is a true Davis institution:
Davis will have a hard time holding onto its “green-progressive” image without Rich doing business downtown!
Re: The Bike Exchange!
Anonymous 7/15/07 5:54 PM
wrote:
“I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak.”
——————-
Can this be true?
If so, its a travesty!
Rich is a great guy, has done me some great deals on bike parts and keeping my bike fit in general…always with a ready wit and willingness to entertain my lame attempts at same. A true hallmark of a local small businessman, always, eventually, with that little something, that makes us human–read: “dicker and deal.”
Am going to find out the name and address of this landlord, no doubt available at the “City” of Davis’s Assessor’s Office and write a letter of support for the Bike Exchange to this landlord.
I encourage all former or not starving students/others to do the same…
The Bike Exchange is a true Davis institution:
Davis will have a hard time holding onto its “green-progressive” image without Rich doing business downtown!
Re: The Bike Exchange!
Anonymous 7/15/07 5:54 PM
wrote:
“I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak.”
——————-
Can this be true?
If so, its a travesty!
Rich is a great guy, has done me some great deals on bike parts and keeping my bike fit in general…always with a ready wit and willingness to entertain my lame attempts at same. A true hallmark of a local small businessman, always, eventually, with that little something, that makes us human–read: “dicker and deal.”
Am going to find out the name and address of this landlord, no doubt available at the “City” of Davis’s Assessor’s Office and write a letter of support for the Bike Exchange to this landlord.
I encourage all former or not starving students/others to do the same…
The Bike Exchange is a true Davis institution:
Davis will have a hard time holding onto its “green-progressive” image without Rich doing business downtown!
Re: The Bike Exchange!
Anonymous 7/15/07 5:54 PM
wrote:
“I bought my first used bike and maintanance over the past few decades at The Bike Exchange, a fixture of the Davis downtown. This bike is still in excellent running condition although a bit frayed around the edges(much like its owner). The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental. There is no current lease as a handshake was sufficent for the past few decades. He will be out on the street, so to speak.”
——————-
Can this be true?
If so, its a travesty!
Rich is a great guy, has done me some great deals on bike parts and keeping my bike fit in general…always with a ready wit and willingness to entertain my lame attempts at same. A true hallmark of a local small businessman, always, eventually, with that little something, that makes us human–read: “dicker and deal.”
Am going to find out the name and address of this landlord, no doubt available at the “City” of Davis’s Assessor’s Office and write a letter of support for the Bike Exchange to this landlord.
I encourage all former or not starving students/others to do the same…
The Bike Exchange is a true Davis institution:
Davis will have a hard time holding onto its “green-progressive” image without Rich doing business downtown!
“The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental.”
About a month ago, I had a conversation with Ken Hiatt, who is the Economic Development Coordinator for the City of Davis. We were talking about the parking garage project, planned for the block bordered by E & F Streets and 3rd & 4th.
Before speaking with Ken, it had been my understanding that every commercial building on that block, including the unbelievably ugly strip mall on 4th Street which house The Davis Bike Exchange, was going to be razed. The new parking garage would then be constructed over the existing parking lot — minus the trees — and new 3-4 story commercial buildings would be built on 3rd and 4th Streets, abutting the new garage.
But Ken told me that the owner of the 4th Street building was not interested, and the city did not want to push him to go along, “because he charges the lowest rents in downtown, and he has a policy of keeping his rents low.”
So if what you say is true about The Davis Bike Exchange — and I have no reason to not believe you — then Ken Hiatt was likely misled by the owner of that unfortunately ugly structure, which will only look worse once the new buildings are completed (in about 5 years).
P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.
“The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental.”
About a month ago, I had a conversation with Ken Hiatt, who is the Economic Development Coordinator for the City of Davis. We were talking about the parking garage project, planned for the block bordered by E & F Streets and 3rd & 4th.
Before speaking with Ken, it had been my understanding that every commercial building on that block, including the unbelievably ugly strip mall on 4th Street which house The Davis Bike Exchange, was going to be razed. The new parking garage would then be constructed over the existing parking lot — minus the trees — and new 3-4 story commercial buildings would be built on 3rd and 4th Streets, abutting the new garage.
But Ken told me that the owner of the 4th Street building was not interested, and the city did not want to push him to go along, “because he charges the lowest rents in downtown, and he has a policy of keeping his rents low.”
So if what you say is true about The Davis Bike Exchange — and I have no reason to not believe you — then Ken Hiatt was likely misled by the owner of that unfortunately ugly structure, which will only look worse once the new buildings are completed (in about 5 years).
P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.
“The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental.”
About a month ago, I had a conversation with Ken Hiatt, who is the Economic Development Coordinator for the City of Davis. We were talking about the parking garage project, planned for the block bordered by E & F Streets and 3rd & 4th.
Before speaking with Ken, it had been my understanding that every commercial building on that block, including the unbelievably ugly strip mall on 4th Street which house The Davis Bike Exchange, was going to be razed. The new parking garage would then be constructed over the existing parking lot — minus the trees — and new 3-4 story commercial buildings would be built on 3rd and 4th Streets, abutting the new garage.
But Ken told me that the owner of the 4th Street building was not interested, and the city did not want to push him to go along, “because he charges the lowest rents in downtown, and he has a policy of keeping his rents low.”
So if what you say is true about The Davis Bike Exchange — and I have no reason to not believe you — then Ken Hiatt was likely misled by the owner of that unfortunately ugly structure, which will only look worse once the new buildings are completed (in about 5 years).
P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.
“The Bike Exchange has been given 30 days notice to vacate or accept a doubling of its rental.”
About a month ago, I had a conversation with Ken Hiatt, who is the Economic Development Coordinator for the City of Davis. We were talking about the parking garage project, planned for the block bordered by E & F Streets and 3rd & 4th.
Before speaking with Ken, it had been my understanding that every commercial building on that block, including the unbelievably ugly strip mall on 4th Street which house The Davis Bike Exchange, was going to be razed. The new parking garage would then be constructed over the existing parking lot — minus the trees — and new 3-4 story commercial buildings would be built on 3rd and 4th Streets, abutting the new garage.
But Ken told me that the owner of the 4th Street building was not interested, and the city did not want to push him to go along, “because he charges the lowest rents in downtown, and he has a policy of keeping his rents low.”
So if what you say is true about The Davis Bike Exchange — and I have no reason to not believe you — then Ken Hiatt was likely misled by the owner of that unfortunately ugly structure, which will only look worse once the new buildings are completed (in about 5 years).
P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.
Rich Rifkin: “P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.”
B&L?! Ha! If you want to support *local* businesses shop at Ken’s Bike and Ski. At least Ken supported NO on Measure K. Beth Anon and her (Cabo) husband, Tom Lovering were huge supporters of YES on K and Target coming to town.
My husband and I spent 30 minutes talking to her about why she was for such an UN-Davis-like development and she said “We love it! People buy crappy bikes there and bring them here (and to Foy’s in Woodland) so we can charge (a lot of) money to fix them up.”
Go Beth, what a classy lady. I will NEVER shop at B&L ever again and will go out of my way to tell others not to as well.
Rich Rifkin: “P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.”
B&L?! Ha! If you want to support *local* businesses shop at Ken’s Bike and Ski. At least Ken supported NO on Measure K. Beth Anon and her (Cabo) husband, Tom Lovering were huge supporters of YES on K and Target coming to town.
My husband and I spent 30 minutes talking to her about why she was for such an UN-Davis-like development and she said “We love it! People buy crappy bikes there and bring them here (and to Foy’s in Woodland) so we can charge (a lot of) money to fix them up.”
Go Beth, what a classy lady. I will NEVER shop at B&L ever again and will go out of my way to tell others not to as well.
Rich Rifkin: “P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.”
B&L?! Ha! If you want to support *local* businesses shop at Ken’s Bike and Ski. At least Ken supported NO on Measure K. Beth Anon and her (Cabo) husband, Tom Lovering were huge supporters of YES on K and Target coming to town.
My husband and I spent 30 minutes talking to her about why she was for such an UN-Davis-like development and she said “We love it! People buy crappy bikes there and bring them here (and to Foy’s in Woodland) so we can charge (a lot of) money to fix them up.”
Go Beth, what a classy lady. I will NEVER shop at B&L ever again and will go out of my way to tell others not to as well.
Rich Rifkin: “P.S. We still have a great number of good bike shops in town. I personally love B&L. And if you want to work on your own bike with borrowed tools, the bike shop on campus is great.”
B&L?! Ha! If you want to support *local* businesses shop at Ken’s Bike and Ski. At least Ken supported NO on Measure K. Beth Anon and her (Cabo) husband, Tom Lovering were huge supporters of YES on K and Target coming to town.
My husband and I spent 30 minutes talking to her about why she was for such an UN-Davis-like development and she said “We love it! People buy crappy bikes there and bring them here (and to Foy’s in Woodland) so we can charge (a lot of) money to fix them up.”
Go Beth, what a classy lady. I will NEVER shop at B&L ever again and will go out of my way to tell others not to as well.
Evidently, the property owner with whom a handshake was the contract has passed away and one of his progeny is now taken over. Rich says that the new monthly rental would mean that he would be just working to pay the rent.. Right now, he is struggling to at least get his vacate date extended for a few months since he makes 50% of his annual income in these next few months with the incoming new students. I guess you can tell that I also will greatly miss him and his Bike Exchange.
Evidently, the property owner with whom a handshake was the contract has passed away and one of his progeny is now taken over. Rich says that the new monthly rental would mean that he would be just working to pay the rent.. Right now, he is struggling to at least get his vacate date extended for a few months since he makes 50% of his annual income in these next few months with the incoming new students. I guess you can tell that I also will greatly miss him and his Bike Exchange.
Evidently, the property owner with whom a handshake was the contract has passed away and one of his progeny is now taken over. Rich says that the new monthly rental would mean that he would be just working to pay the rent.. Right now, he is struggling to at least get his vacate date extended for a few months since he makes 50% of his annual income in these next few months with the incoming new students. I guess you can tell that I also will greatly miss him and his Bike Exchange.
Evidently, the property owner with whom a handshake was the contract has passed away and one of his progeny is now taken over. Rich says that the new monthly rental would mean that he would be just working to pay the rent.. Right now, he is struggling to at least get his vacate date extended for a few months since he makes 50% of his annual income in these next few months with the incoming new students. I guess you can tell that I also will greatly miss him and his Bike Exchange.
I get nothing but attitude at B&L, starting with the sales staff all the way up to the owner, Beth. B&L is no longer the shop I knew and loved as a youngster growing up in Davis. Its main purpose now seems to be fleecing new UCD students and their parents (and, apparently, driving other locally-owned retailers out of business by supporting the Target store).
I too will miss the Bike Exchange, because it was unpretentious and cheerful. I bought a bike there that served me well as a starving student.
I get nothing but attitude at B&L, starting with the sales staff all the way up to the owner, Beth. B&L is no longer the shop I knew and loved as a youngster growing up in Davis. Its main purpose now seems to be fleecing new UCD students and their parents (and, apparently, driving other locally-owned retailers out of business by supporting the Target store).
I too will miss the Bike Exchange, because it was unpretentious and cheerful. I bought a bike there that served me well as a starving student.
I get nothing but attitude at B&L, starting with the sales staff all the way up to the owner, Beth. B&L is no longer the shop I knew and loved as a youngster growing up in Davis. Its main purpose now seems to be fleecing new UCD students and their parents (and, apparently, driving other locally-owned retailers out of business by supporting the Target store).
I too will miss the Bike Exchange, because it was unpretentious and cheerful. I bought a bike there that served me well as a starving student.
I get nothing but attitude at B&L, starting with the sales staff all the way up to the owner, Beth. B&L is no longer the shop I knew and loved as a youngster growing up in Davis. Its main purpose now seems to be fleecing new UCD students and their parents (and, apparently, driving other locally-owned retailers out of business by supporting the Target store).
I too will miss the Bike Exchange, because it was unpretentious and cheerful. I bought a bike there that served me well as a starving student.
My daughter bought a $400 bike from one of the upscale bike shops in town. It has been back numerous times and she was about to dump it as a “lemon”. I took it into Rich at the Bike Exchange and he fixed it right up.. runs like a top.. This guy KNOWS about bike repair! he will be sorely missed..
My daughter bought a $400 bike from one of the upscale bike shops in town. It has been back numerous times and she was about to dump it as a “lemon”. I took it into Rich at the Bike Exchange and he fixed it right up.. runs like a top.. This guy KNOWS about bike repair! he will be sorely missed..
My daughter bought a $400 bike from one of the upscale bike shops in town. It has been back numerous times and she was about to dump it as a “lemon”. I took it into Rich at the Bike Exchange and he fixed it right up.. runs like a top.. This guy KNOWS about bike repair! he will be sorely missed..
My daughter bought a $400 bike from one of the upscale bike shops in town. It has been back numerous times and she was about to dump it as a “lemon”. I took it into Rich at the Bike Exchange and he fixed it right up.. runs like a top.. This guy KNOWS about bike repair! he will be sorely missed..
I know plenty of people who willingly drive all the way to Sacramento from Davis to shop at Trader Joe’s. I understand that TJ prefers a central location but I wish they could see that even though the Westlake site isn’t their ideal site it would still thrive.
I know plenty of people who willingly drive all the way to Sacramento from Davis to shop at Trader Joe’s. I understand that TJ prefers a central location but I wish they could see that even though the Westlake site isn’t their ideal site it would still thrive.
I know plenty of people who willingly drive all the way to Sacramento from Davis to shop at Trader Joe’s. I understand that TJ prefers a central location but I wish they could see that even though the Westlake site isn’t their ideal site it would still thrive.
I know plenty of people who willingly drive all the way to Sacramento from Davis to shop at Trader Joe’s. I understand that TJ prefers a central location but I wish they could see that even though the Westlake site isn’t their ideal site it would still thrive.
Trader Joe’s has done an excellent marketing job in that consumers seem to believe it is some funky little chain with hip and high quality items. TJ’s, as it’s known, has nearly 300 stores and does an estimated $5 billion in sales yearly. In addition, the company is held in a trust (an interesting tax avoidance scheme) by the owners of the European chain Aldi, who own thousands of diverse stores across the European continent. As in the case of Starbucks, a company can’t do that much volume and still sell “quality” merchandise. But they can sell image.
Back in the late 1970s, when TJs was a couple dozen stores, owned by a Californian, they did sell some tasty, quality, innovative items that could not be found at mainstream grocers. But the last time I went into a Trader Joe’s – two years ago by my reckoning – I didn’t find anything I couldn’t get in town at the Nugget, the Co-op, or if necessary (and at much better quality) at Whole Foods in Sac.
One is offered the argument that TJ’s treats it’s employees so much better. But like Starbucks, this “enlightened” treatment does not extend to the workers and co-ops of the Third World who are exploited by Aldi and TJs. TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.
We don’t need a Trader Joe’s in Davis. But I suppose the same people want to shop there after they’ve hit the Target.
Trader Joe’s has done an excellent marketing job in that consumers seem to believe it is some funky little chain with hip and high quality items. TJ’s, as it’s known, has nearly 300 stores and does an estimated $5 billion in sales yearly. In addition, the company is held in a trust (an interesting tax avoidance scheme) by the owners of the European chain Aldi, who own thousands of diverse stores across the European continent. As in the case of Starbucks, a company can’t do that much volume and still sell “quality” merchandise. But they can sell image.
Back in the late 1970s, when TJs was a couple dozen stores, owned by a Californian, they did sell some tasty, quality, innovative items that could not be found at mainstream grocers. But the last time I went into a Trader Joe’s – two years ago by my reckoning – I didn’t find anything I couldn’t get in town at the Nugget, the Co-op, or if necessary (and at much better quality) at Whole Foods in Sac.
One is offered the argument that TJ’s treats it’s employees so much better. But like Starbucks, this “enlightened” treatment does not extend to the workers and co-ops of the Third World who are exploited by Aldi and TJs. TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.
We don’t need a Trader Joe’s in Davis. But I suppose the same people want to shop there after they’ve hit the Target.
Trader Joe’s has done an excellent marketing job in that consumers seem to believe it is some funky little chain with hip and high quality items. TJ’s, as it’s known, has nearly 300 stores and does an estimated $5 billion in sales yearly. In addition, the company is held in a trust (an interesting tax avoidance scheme) by the owners of the European chain Aldi, who own thousands of diverse stores across the European continent. As in the case of Starbucks, a company can’t do that much volume and still sell “quality” merchandise. But they can sell image.
Back in the late 1970s, when TJs was a couple dozen stores, owned by a Californian, they did sell some tasty, quality, innovative items that could not be found at mainstream grocers. But the last time I went into a Trader Joe’s – two years ago by my reckoning – I didn’t find anything I couldn’t get in town at the Nugget, the Co-op, or if necessary (and at much better quality) at Whole Foods in Sac.
One is offered the argument that TJ’s treats it’s employees so much better. But like Starbucks, this “enlightened” treatment does not extend to the workers and co-ops of the Third World who are exploited by Aldi and TJs. TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.
We don’t need a Trader Joe’s in Davis. But I suppose the same people want to shop there after they’ve hit the Target.
Trader Joe’s has done an excellent marketing job in that consumers seem to believe it is some funky little chain with hip and high quality items. TJ’s, as it’s known, has nearly 300 stores and does an estimated $5 billion in sales yearly. In addition, the company is held in a trust (an interesting tax avoidance scheme) by the owners of the European chain Aldi, who own thousands of diverse stores across the European continent. As in the case of Starbucks, a company can’t do that much volume and still sell “quality” merchandise. But they can sell image.
Back in the late 1970s, when TJs was a couple dozen stores, owned by a Californian, they did sell some tasty, quality, innovative items that could not be found at mainstream grocers. But the last time I went into a Trader Joe’s – two years ago by my reckoning – I didn’t find anything I couldn’t get in town at the Nugget, the Co-op, or if necessary (and at much better quality) at Whole Foods in Sac.
One is offered the argument that TJ’s treats it’s employees so much better. But like Starbucks, this “enlightened” treatment does not extend to the workers and co-ops of the Third World who are exploited by Aldi and TJs. TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.
We don’t need a Trader Joe’s in Davis. But I suppose the same people want to shop there after they’ve hit the Target.
“TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.”
That comment makes no sense – it sounds like it was written by someone who fears TJ competition.
I have shopped at TJ’s for four years and over that period the variety of product has remained quite consistent. I think they do get special deals on some of their wine, but not on food items. The fact is the vast majority look forward to TJ’s because they do have an interesting variety of products, the quality is good and it is inexpensive.
As a consumer, I prefer to pay less rather than more. If you prefer to pay more for the same product, I have no problem with that.
“TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.”
That comment makes no sense – it sounds like it was written by someone who fears TJ competition.
I have shopped at TJ’s for four years and over that period the variety of product has remained quite consistent. I think they do get special deals on some of their wine, but not on food items. The fact is the vast majority look forward to TJ’s because they do have an interesting variety of products, the quality is good and it is inexpensive.
As a consumer, I prefer to pay less rather than more. If you prefer to pay more for the same product, I have no problem with that.
“TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.”
That comment makes no sense – it sounds like it was written by someone who fears TJ competition.
I have shopped at TJ’s for four years and over that period the variety of product has remained quite consistent. I think they do get special deals on some of their wine, but not on food items. The fact is the vast majority look forward to TJ’s because they do have an interesting variety of products, the quality is good and it is inexpensive.
As a consumer, I prefer to pay less rather than more. If you prefer to pay more for the same product, I have no problem with that.
“TJs also likes to sell distressed items picked up at literal fire sales or ware house closings. TJs demands unsustainable prices from its domestic suppliers as well.”
That comment makes no sense – it sounds like it was written by someone who fears TJ competition.
I have shopped at TJ’s for four years and over that period the variety of product has remained quite consistent. I think they do get special deals on some of their wine, but not on food items. The fact is the vast majority look forward to TJ’s because they do have an interesting variety of products, the quality is good and it is inexpensive.
As a consumer, I prefer to pay less rather than more. If you prefer to pay more for the same product, I have no problem with that.
It is interesting how Trader Joes has shifted more to their own brands and less on promoting the independent small seller. I have noticed this change. TJ has a large selection of Organic but it mostly comes from China, or South America. I am sure that is really Organic comming from China.
In fact this Organic top roman got from Sac’s food coop says it has no oil. But it feels and looks exactly like the original top roman and it is from China. IT even has Quality Assurance International to verify it’s Organic. Now I would like to buy some oceanfront property in Arizona, please.
Point was that TJ should not be here and though the coops are not always great they are so much better at supporting local growers and small companies and yes better than whole foods stores. I am not a ideal shopper when money is tight and I get tempted to shop at TJs. Personally, I do not want that temptation.
It is interesting how Trader Joes has shifted more to their own brands and less on promoting the independent small seller. I have noticed this change. TJ has a large selection of Organic but it mostly comes from China, or South America. I am sure that is really Organic comming from China.
In fact this Organic top roman got from Sac’s food coop says it has no oil. But it feels and looks exactly like the original top roman and it is from China. IT even has Quality Assurance International to verify it’s Organic. Now I would like to buy some oceanfront property in Arizona, please.
Point was that TJ should not be here and though the coops are not always great they are so much better at supporting local growers and small companies and yes better than whole foods stores. I am not a ideal shopper when money is tight and I get tempted to shop at TJs. Personally, I do not want that temptation.
It is interesting how Trader Joes has shifted more to their own brands and less on promoting the independent small seller. I have noticed this change. TJ has a large selection of Organic but it mostly comes from China, or South America. I am sure that is really Organic comming from China.
In fact this Organic top roman got from Sac’s food coop says it has no oil. But it feels and looks exactly like the original top roman and it is from China. IT even has Quality Assurance International to verify it’s Organic. Now I would like to buy some oceanfront property in Arizona, please.
Point was that TJ should not be here and though the coops are not always great they are so much better at supporting local growers and small companies and yes better than whole foods stores. I am not a ideal shopper when money is tight and I get tempted to shop at TJs. Personally, I do not want that temptation.
It is interesting how Trader Joes has shifted more to their own brands and less on promoting the independent small seller. I have noticed this change. TJ has a large selection of Organic but it mostly comes from China, or South America. I am sure that is really Organic comming from China.
In fact this Organic top roman got from Sac’s food coop says it has no oil. But it feels and looks exactly like the original top roman and it is from China. IT even has Quality Assurance International to verify it’s Organic. Now I would like to buy some oceanfront property in Arizona, please.
Point was that TJ should not be here and though the coops are not always great they are so much better at supporting local growers and small companies and yes better than whole foods stores. I am not a ideal shopper when money is tight and I get tempted to shop at TJs. Personally, I do not want that temptation.