All they needed was roughly 10 signatures to pull it off the Consent Calendar and put it to a 4:30 pm Saturday vote this weekend at the Democratic Convention. The Vanguard will be there this weekend covering the entire event.
The Cabaldon campaign would need to gain 60% of the vote on Saturday to get back on the Consent Calendar for Sunday. Speaking to the Cabaldon Campaign, they were fairly confident that they had the votes to do exactly that.
However, even that is not the end of story. The Yamada campaign could then gain about 300 signatures from the 3000 delegates statewide at the convention and once again force it off the Consent Calendar. If they succeed it goes for a statewide vote and the Cabaldon campaign would need 50 percent plus one of the vote to get the endorsement at that point or the Yamada Campaign could block it with a 50 percent plus one vote of their own. They could not at that point, themselves, get the endorsement, only block Christopher Cabaldon from getting it.
Make sense? Clear as mud to me…
One of the big differences is that at the convention, there are none of the delegates, only state party members can vote. Part of the controversy was that the Cabaldon campaign generated 38 delegates with expansion of the West Sacramento Democratic Club and the Davis Democratic Club apparently chose their delegates without informing the membership or their governing board of the selection process (or even that there was a selection process).
None of that will matter this weekend. However, that is not before the Yamada campaign sent out a lengthy press release and appealed to the Yolo County Democratic Central Committee on Monday night.
Mariko Yamada is quoted in the press release saying:
“I have long been a champion for authentic grassroots organizing and I have no objection to an honest victory. However, I cannot be silent about the astonishing growth in a club controlled and paid for by my opponent. These kinds of tactics mock the very values of the Democratic Party.”
According to observers at this meeting, the membership of the Central Committee unanimously dismissed the complaint calling the charges moot.
Blast Fax Controversy
In the meantime, the Vanguard received a blast fax a few weeks ago from a group called California Campaign Updates. No one exactly knows who this group is, however, they sent a scanned copy of a flier that appears from all indications to be authentic.
In it, the Yamada Campaign appears to have moved to the right on some issues.
Most notably favoring capital punishment:
“For premeditated murders involving special circumstances, Mariko supports our capital punishment laws.”
Supporting a continuation of Proposition 13 and voter approved tax increases.
“Retain Prop 13’s 1% assessed value standard-2/3rds vote to raise rates on residential property… Any proposed increased (sic) in sales tax, income tax, property tax or vehicle tax should be voter-approved.”
And her equal rights statement interesting mentions, “race, creed, color, or gender based” discrimination but not sexual orientation.
In a blast fax, a group, not affiliated with the Cabaldon Campaign, according to Campaign Manager Robbie Abelon put out a comparison piece comparing Yamada’s views on these issues to the Republican Party.
There was an additional issue mentioned that stemmed from a debate last summer, and that was the Yamada support of the 2/3 vote requirement in order to pass a state budget.
Meantime the Yamada Campaign has responded.
“You know you’re in a close race when a phantom organization sends out a desperate and misleading “blast-fax” full of spin.
I find it more humorous than offensive – actually the Sacramento Metropolitan Chamber of Commerce’s didn’t even give me a chance to participate in their endorsement process!”
They then proceed to “set the record straight”
* Budget reform: I’d like to see a 55% to 60% threshold with a two-year budget cycle that aligns with the legislative session.
* I don’t support a simple majority budget – as I said at a forum in June 2007, simple majority works only when Democrats are in power. Let’s not forget that as recently as 1994, Democrats lost control of the Assembly – if that were to happen again, Republicans could use a simple majority to enact a right-wing budget laying ruin to programs hard-fought for by Democrats.
* Prop 13 needs reform: Loopholes for commercial property need to be addressed, but protections for California’s residential property must be secure for those most vulnerable-seniors and disabled adults on fixed incomes. I have and will continue to fight for their interests.
They have posted the entire blast fax on their website.
This weekend appears to be an interesting event worth following. Since the Vanguard will be credentialed as press, we’ll probably take advantage of it to do a broader array of coverage on the convention. As always, it will have a bit of a local angle to it.
—Doug Paul Davis reporting
You would think that a mailer reflects the candidate’s most refined opinions on all the issues. Doesn’t someone read these things before they’re printed?
It is amazing that a Democrat running from Davis has to explain why their mailer defends prop 13, the death penalty, and surveillance cameras. I don’t think the most junior newbie city council candidate would make these mistakes!
The most concerning part is the tax increase portion. It seems she is against all kinds of taxes – vehicle, sales, income… Presumably that means that the state should bridge the current $8 billion budget hole with what? Cuts? If you’re not adding, you must be subtracting!
What is happening here is obvious. Yamada has seen the polling and understands that Solano County voters want to be pandered to with anti-tax stances – and Yamada is happy to oblige.
You would think that a mailer reflects the candidate’s most refined opinions on all the issues. Doesn’t someone read these things before they’re printed?
It is amazing that a Democrat running from Davis has to explain why their mailer defends prop 13, the death penalty, and surveillance cameras. I don’t think the most junior newbie city council candidate would make these mistakes!
The most concerning part is the tax increase portion. It seems she is against all kinds of taxes – vehicle, sales, income… Presumably that means that the state should bridge the current $8 billion budget hole with what? Cuts? If you’re not adding, you must be subtracting!
What is happening here is obvious. Yamada has seen the polling and understands that Solano County voters want to be pandered to with anti-tax stances – and Yamada is happy to oblige.
You would think that a mailer reflects the candidate’s most refined opinions on all the issues. Doesn’t someone read these things before they’re printed?
It is amazing that a Democrat running from Davis has to explain why their mailer defends prop 13, the death penalty, and surveillance cameras. I don’t think the most junior newbie city council candidate would make these mistakes!
The most concerning part is the tax increase portion. It seems she is against all kinds of taxes – vehicle, sales, income… Presumably that means that the state should bridge the current $8 billion budget hole with what? Cuts? If you’re not adding, you must be subtracting!
What is happening here is obvious. Yamada has seen the polling and understands that Solano County voters want to be pandered to with anti-tax stances – and Yamada is happy to oblige.
You would think that a mailer reflects the candidate’s most refined opinions on all the issues. Doesn’t someone read these things before they’re printed?
It is amazing that a Democrat running from Davis has to explain why their mailer defends prop 13, the death penalty, and surveillance cameras. I don’t think the most junior newbie city council candidate would make these mistakes!
The most concerning part is the tax increase portion. It seems she is against all kinds of taxes – vehicle, sales, income… Presumably that means that the state should bridge the current $8 billion budget hole with what? Cuts? If you’re not adding, you must be subtracting!
What is happening here is obvious. Yamada has seen the polling and understands that Solano County voters want to be pandered to with anti-tax stances – and Yamada is happy to oblige.
Has the Yamada campaign confirmed or denied that the flyer attached to the blast fax is really her stance on everything? She should proudly accept it if it is accurate and deny it if it is not her stance.
Did you ask Mariko if she is going to block the Democratic Party endorsement for Calbaldon even if he gets the votes he needs at the convention this weekend?
Mariko, if you or your campaign staffers read this blog, respond here and tell us if you are going to fight to the death to keep Cabaldon from getting the endorsement of the party or if you will accept his success with respect, grace and dignity?
Has the Yamada campaign confirmed or denied that the flyer attached to the blast fax is really her stance on everything? She should proudly accept it if it is accurate and deny it if it is not her stance.
Did you ask Mariko if she is going to block the Democratic Party endorsement for Calbaldon even if he gets the votes he needs at the convention this weekend?
Mariko, if you or your campaign staffers read this blog, respond here and tell us if you are going to fight to the death to keep Cabaldon from getting the endorsement of the party or if you will accept his success with respect, grace and dignity?
Has the Yamada campaign confirmed or denied that the flyer attached to the blast fax is really her stance on everything? She should proudly accept it if it is accurate and deny it if it is not her stance.
Did you ask Mariko if she is going to block the Democratic Party endorsement for Calbaldon even if he gets the votes he needs at the convention this weekend?
Mariko, if you or your campaign staffers read this blog, respond here and tell us if you are going to fight to the death to keep Cabaldon from getting the endorsement of the party or if you will accept his success with respect, grace and dignity?
Has the Yamada campaign confirmed or denied that the flyer attached to the blast fax is really her stance on everything? She should proudly accept it if it is accurate and deny it if it is not her stance.
Did you ask Mariko if she is going to block the Democratic Party endorsement for Calbaldon even if he gets the votes he needs at the convention this weekend?
Mariko, if you or your campaign staffers read this blog, respond here and tell us if you are going to fight to the death to keep Cabaldon from getting the endorsement of the party or if you will accept his success with respect, grace and dignity?
This is a demented, nasty, underhanded campaign tactic. Unbelievable!
Imagine… taking an opponent’s own mail piece clearly intended for conservative voters in Vacaville, and sending it to the liberal bloggers in Davis. Wowwie-wow-wow!
That’s uncalled for and a real insult to three basic American Institutions: Democracy, Double-Talking Politicians, and Apple Pie.
You’re right Mariko. You shouldn’t have to be proud of the statements you put in mail pieces. Go right ahead – tell us you want to raise taxes to help pay for schools, then tell the conservative voters you want to stop tax increases and put more people on death row.
This is your campaign Mariko, and dare anyone try to call you out on it!
This is a demented, nasty, underhanded campaign tactic. Unbelievable!
Imagine… taking an opponent’s own mail piece clearly intended for conservative voters in Vacaville, and sending it to the liberal bloggers in Davis. Wowwie-wow-wow!
That’s uncalled for and a real insult to three basic American Institutions: Democracy, Double-Talking Politicians, and Apple Pie.
You’re right Mariko. You shouldn’t have to be proud of the statements you put in mail pieces. Go right ahead – tell us you want to raise taxes to help pay for schools, then tell the conservative voters you want to stop tax increases and put more people on death row.
This is your campaign Mariko, and dare anyone try to call you out on it!
This is a demented, nasty, underhanded campaign tactic. Unbelievable!
Imagine… taking an opponent’s own mail piece clearly intended for conservative voters in Vacaville, and sending it to the liberal bloggers in Davis. Wowwie-wow-wow!
That’s uncalled for and a real insult to three basic American Institutions: Democracy, Double-Talking Politicians, and Apple Pie.
You’re right Mariko. You shouldn’t have to be proud of the statements you put in mail pieces. Go right ahead – tell us you want to raise taxes to help pay for schools, then tell the conservative voters you want to stop tax increases and put more people on death row.
This is your campaign Mariko, and dare anyone try to call you out on it!
This is a demented, nasty, underhanded campaign tactic. Unbelievable!
Imagine… taking an opponent’s own mail piece clearly intended for conservative voters in Vacaville, and sending it to the liberal bloggers in Davis. Wowwie-wow-wow!
That’s uncalled for and a real insult to three basic American Institutions: Democracy, Double-Talking Politicians, and Apple Pie.
You’re right Mariko. You shouldn’t have to be proud of the statements you put in mail pieces. Go right ahead – tell us you want to raise taxes to help pay for schools, then tell the conservative voters you want to stop tax increases and put more people on death row.
This is your campaign Mariko, and dare anyone try to call you out on it!
Yamada is the grassroots candidate and Cabaldon is the machine candidate, status-quo, bought and paid for by the special interests.. all the rest is campaign rhetoric. As for her positions on growth on Davis’ periphery … folks, she’s not running for Yolo Supervisor. As Assemblyperson, she will not be making decisions about Davis growth but rather about health care,social service funding and other STATE issues that directly impact the grassroots voter.
Yamada is the grassroots candidate and Cabaldon is the machine candidate, status-quo, bought and paid for by the special interests.. all the rest is campaign rhetoric. As for her positions on growth on Davis’ periphery … folks, she’s not running for Yolo Supervisor. As Assemblyperson, she will not be making decisions about Davis growth but rather about health care,social service funding and other STATE issues that directly impact the grassroots voter.
Yamada is the grassroots candidate and Cabaldon is the machine candidate, status-quo, bought and paid for by the special interests.. all the rest is campaign rhetoric. As for her positions on growth on Davis’ periphery … folks, she’s not running for Yolo Supervisor. As Assemblyperson, she will not be making decisions about Davis growth but rather about health care,social service funding and other STATE issues that directly impact the grassroots voter.
Yamada is the grassroots candidate and Cabaldon is the machine candidate, status-quo, bought and paid for by the special interests.. all the rest is campaign rhetoric. As for her positions on growth on Davis’ periphery … folks, she’s not running for Yolo Supervisor. As Assemblyperson, she will not be making decisions about Davis growth but rather about health care,social service funding and other STATE issues that directly impact the grassroots voter.
Get with it Christopher Cabaldon. Your campaign is “floundering” and you will “not win.”
Do you even have a “position” on the the 1919 Spanish Flu contagion?
Do you think ALL students should have the ability to read at a 9th Grade Level? And, yes, I mean ALL students – even 2nd graders!
Aside from the bold statements from Yamada about her anti-tax and pro-death stances, she shows an amazing “depth” in the range of positions she addresses, and her daring use of “quotation marks.”
You Go Mariko!
Get with it Christopher Cabaldon. Your campaign is “floundering” and you will “not win.”
Do you even have a “position” on the the 1919 Spanish Flu contagion?
Do you think ALL students should have the ability to read at a 9th Grade Level? And, yes, I mean ALL students – even 2nd graders!
Aside from the bold statements from Yamada about her anti-tax and pro-death stances, she shows an amazing “depth” in the range of positions she addresses, and her daring use of “quotation marks.”
You Go Mariko!
Get with it Christopher Cabaldon. Your campaign is “floundering” and you will “not win.”
Do you even have a “position” on the the 1919 Spanish Flu contagion?
Do you think ALL students should have the ability to read at a 9th Grade Level? And, yes, I mean ALL students – even 2nd graders!
Aside from the bold statements from Yamada about her anti-tax and pro-death stances, she shows an amazing “depth” in the range of positions she addresses, and her daring use of “quotation marks.”
You Go Mariko!
Get with it Christopher Cabaldon. Your campaign is “floundering” and you will “not win.”
Do you even have a “position” on the the 1919 Spanish Flu contagion?
Do you think ALL students should have the ability to read at a 9th Grade Level? And, yes, I mean ALL students – even 2nd graders!
Aside from the bold statements from Yamada about her anti-tax and pro-death stances, she shows an amazing “depth” in the range of positions she addresses, and her daring use of “quotation marks.”
You Go Mariko!
Dear Who Do You Trust,
Please see Government Code Sections 51200-51297, 16140-16154 and Taxation Code Sections 421-430.5. (Williamson Act) or Public Resources Code, starting at section 21000 or Title 14 of the California Administrative Code (CEQA).
I think those are areas of state law, not Davis/Yolo County or local ordinances, that have quite an impact on the environment.
They don’t have three environmental committees in the Assembly just for good looks.
Mariko’s double-speak on development on the periphery should be a MAJOR concern in this election.
But for today we’re pillorying her for her conservative stances on state revenue. And her double-speak on how she would vote to close the current $8 billion budget gap. If you can’t send your kid to school because the teachers have all been pink slipped, then that is a MAJOR issue for the grassroots voter.
Dear Who Do You Trust,
Please see Government Code Sections 51200-51297, 16140-16154 and Taxation Code Sections 421-430.5. (Williamson Act) or Public Resources Code, starting at section 21000 or Title 14 of the California Administrative Code (CEQA).
I think those are areas of state law, not Davis/Yolo County or local ordinances, that have quite an impact on the environment.
They don’t have three environmental committees in the Assembly just for good looks.
Mariko’s double-speak on development on the periphery should be a MAJOR concern in this election.
But for today we’re pillorying her for her conservative stances on state revenue. And her double-speak on how she would vote to close the current $8 billion budget gap. If you can’t send your kid to school because the teachers have all been pink slipped, then that is a MAJOR issue for the grassroots voter.
Dear Who Do You Trust,
Please see Government Code Sections 51200-51297, 16140-16154 and Taxation Code Sections 421-430.5. (Williamson Act) or Public Resources Code, starting at section 21000 or Title 14 of the California Administrative Code (CEQA).
I think those are areas of state law, not Davis/Yolo County or local ordinances, that have quite an impact on the environment.
They don’t have three environmental committees in the Assembly just for good looks.
Mariko’s double-speak on development on the periphery should be a MAJOR concern in this election.
But for today we’re pillorying her for her conservative stances on state revenue. And her double-speak on how she would vote to close the current $8 billion budget gap. If you can’t send your kid to school because the teachers have all been pink slipped, then that is a MAJOR issue for the grassroots voter.
Dear Who Do You Trust,
Please see Government Code Sections 51200-51297, 16140-16154 and Taxation Code Sections 421-430.5. (Williamson Act) or Public Resources Code, starting at section 21000 or Title 14 of the California Administrative Code (CEQA).
I think those are areas of state law, not Davis/Yolo County or local ordinances, that have quite an impact on the environment.
They don’t have three environmental committees in the Assembly just for good looks.
Mariko’s double-speak on development on the periphery should be a MAJOR concern in this election.
But for today we’re pillorying her for her conservative stances on state revenue. And her double-speak on how she would vote to close the current $8 billion budget gap. If you can’t send your kid to school because the teachers have all been pink slipped, then that is a MAJOR issue for the grassroots voter.
Thank you for this piece Vanguard.
Since you allow all politicos to respond it would be nice if Mariko or one of her staffers let us, the voters, know what this campaign piece is about.
It’s quite a mixed message she is sending.
Thank you for this piece Vanguard.
Since you allow all politicos to respond it would be nice if Mariko or one of her staffers let us, the voters, know what this campaign piece is about.
It’s quite a mixed message she is sending.
Thank you for this piece Vanguard.
Since you allow all politicos to respond it would be nice if Mariko or one of her staffers let us, the voters, know what this campaign piece is about.
It’s quite a mixed message she is sending.
Thank you for this piece Vanguard.
Since you allow all politicos to respond it would be nice if Mariko or one of her staffers let us, the voters, know what this campaign piece is about.
It’s quite a mixed message she is sending.
I don’t care about endorsements. I just care who is the best candidate. So lots of furor over a non-issue in my book.
I don’t care about endorsements. I just care who is the best candidate. So lots of furor over a non-issue in my book.
I don’t care about endorsements. I just care who is the best candidate. So lots of furor over a non-issue in my book.
I don’t care about endorsements. I just care who is the best candidate. So lots of furor over a non-issue in my book.
The Yamada campaign is way out of their league. Cabaldon is playing hardball and will waltz straight into the Assembly.
The Yamada campaign is way out of their league. Cabaldon is playing hardball and will waltz straight into the Assembly.
The Yamada campaign is way out of their league. Cabaldon is playing hardball and will waltz straight into the Assembly.
The Yamada campaign is way out of their league. Cabaldon is playing hardball and will waltz straight into the Assembly.
Question for Yamada
As a Lesbian and an amputee from the Iraq War I am very upset that you don’t say that you will support the Equal Rights of Gays and Lesbians and rights of the Disabled. I do deserve the same rights as you do! Do you support me having rights, the same ones that you have? I do not accept the excuse that you forgot about us or that you did not have room for us. What next if elected will you also forget us?
Do YOU SUPPORT my equal rights and do you allow me to get married to whoever I choose and not who you want me to?
Nat.
Iraq Army Vet.
Question for Yamada
As a Lesbian and an amputee from the Iraq War I am very upset that you don’t say that you will support the Equal Rights of Gays and Lesbians and rights of the Disabled. I do deserve the same rights as you do! Do you support me having rights, the same ones that you have? I do not accept the excuse that you forgot about us or that you did not have room for us. What next if elected will you also forget us?
Do YOU SUPPORT my equal rights and do you allow me to get married to whoever I choose and not who you want me to?
Nat.
Iraq Army Vet.
Question for Yamada
As a Lesbian and an amputee from the Iraq War I am very upset that you don’t say that you will support the Equal Rights of Gays and Lesbians and rights of the Disabled. I do deserve the same rights as you do! Do you support me having rights, the same ones that you have? I do not accept the excuse that you forgot about us or that you did not have room for us. What next if elected will you also forget us?
Do YOU SUPPORT my equal rights and do you allow me to get married to whoever I choose and not who you want me to?
Nat.
Iraq Army Vet.
Question for Yamada
As a Lesbian and an amputee from the Iraq War I am very upset that you don’t say that you will support the Equal Rights of Gays and Lesbians and rights of the Disabled. I do deserve the same rights as you do! Do you support me having rights, the same ones that you have? I do not accept the excuse that you forgot about us or that you did not have room for us. What next if elected will you also forget us?
Do YOU SUPPORT my equal rights and do you allow me to get married to whoever I choose and not who you want me to?
Nat.
Iraq Army Vet.
Sorry Anonymous 9:33, but this whole deal isn’t about endorsements. Mariko isn’t going to beat Cabaldon, who has been running for this for years, in the endorsement game. That isn’t a point of debate.
What is concerning is how Mariko has been flip-flopping on the issues. She says that she supports a majority budget, then says 55-60%, then on her site says Majority vote for only healthcare and social services, but 2/3 for the rest. And we’re in this debate because of her comments in Solano County a few months ago.
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Qu4KQ0oSE and judge for yourself what her opinion is. In this debate she seems to make a very thought-out and decisive point on her support for a 2/3 super-majority for the state budget.
And in 1994, when the Republicans had control for about a year, the Senate was still Democratic. The Democrats now have a 16 member advantage (48-32) in the Assembly and they are two seats away from having 2/3 in the Senate.
We need a majority vote to protect education, healthcare, transportation and air+water quality.
I like Yamada, but she isn’t showing any strength in her positions, has been all over the map on key issues (as she has been on Davis/Yolo issues) and is a huge dissapointment.
Sorry Anonymous 9:33, but this whole deal isn’t about endorsements. Mariko isn’t going to beat Cabaldon, who has been running for this for years, in the endorsement game. That isn’t a point of debate.
What is concerning is how Mariko has been flip-flopping on the issues. She says that she supports a majority budget, then says 55-60%, then on her site says Majority vote for only healthcare and social services, but 2/3 for the rest. And we’re in this debate because of her comments in Solano County a few months ago.
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Qu4KQ0oSE and judge for yourself what her opinion is. In this debate she seems to make a very thought-out and decisive point on her support for a 2/3 super-majority for the state budget.
And in 1994, when the Republicans had control for about a year, the Senate was still Democratic. The Democrats now have a 16 member advantage (48-32) in the Assembly and they are two seats away from having 2/3 in the Senate.
We need a majority vote to protect education, healthcare, transportation and air+water quality.
I like Yamada, but she isn’t showing any strength in her positions, has been all over the map on key issues (as she has been on Davis/Yolo issues) and is a huge dissapointment.
Sorry Anonymous 9:33, but this whole deal isn’t about endorsements. Mariko isn’t going to beat Cabaldon, who has been running for this for years, in the endorsement game. That isn’t a point of debate.
What is concerning is how Mariko has been flip-flopping on the issues. She says that she supports a majority budget, then says 55-60%, then on her site says Majority vote for only healthcare and social services, but 2/3 for the rest. And we’re in this debate because of her comments in Solano County a few months ago.
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Qu4KQ0oSE and judge for yourself what her opinion is. In this debate she seems to make a very thought-out and decisive point on her support for a 2/3 super-majority for the state budget.
And in 1994, when the Republicans had control for about a year, the Senate was still Democratic. The Democrats now have a 16 member advantage (48-32) in the Assembly and they are two seats away from having 2/3 in the Senate.
We need a majority vote to protect education, healthcare, transportation and air+water quality.
I like Yamada, but she isn’t showing any strength in her positions, has been all over the map on key issues (as she has been on Davis/Yolo issues) and is a huge dissapointment.
Sorry Anonymous 9:33, but this whole deal isn’t about endorsements. Mariko isn’t going to beat Cabaldon, who has been running for this for years, in the endorsement game. That isn’t a point of debate.
What is concerning is how Mariko has been flip-flopping on the issues. She says that she supports a majority budget, then says 55-60%, then on her site says Majority vote for only healthcare and social services, but 2/3 for the rest. And we’re in this debate because of her comments in Solano County a few months ago.
Go to http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4Qu4KQ0oSE and judge for yourself what her opinion is. In this debate she seems to make a very thought-out and decisive point on her support for a 2/3 super-majority for the state budget.
And in 1994, when the Republicans had control for about a year, the Senate was still Democratic. The Democrats now have a 16 member advantage (48-32) in the Assembly and they are two seats away from having 2/3 in the Senate.
We need a majority vote to protect education, healthcare, transportation and air+water quality.
I like Yamada, but she isn’t showing any strength in her positions, has been all over the map on key issues (as she has been on Davis/Yolo issues) and is a huge dissapointment.
Budget reform: I’d like to see a 55% to 60% threshold with a two-year budget cycle that aligns with the legislative session.
* I don’t support a simple majority budget – as I said at a forum in June 2007, simple majority works only when Democrats are in power. Let’s not forget that as recently as 1994, Democrats lost control of the Assembly – if that were to happen again, Republicans could use a simple majority to enact a right-wing budget laying ruin to programs hard-fought for by Democrats.
This makes absolutely no sense at all.
Any requirement for the passage of a budget greater than 50% plus 1 empowers the minority to eviscerate progressive social programs, as has occurred too many times numerous to mention with the current 2/3 requirement.
And, what’s so magic about 55% or 60%? Especially when compared to the majority rule principle that is so commonplace in our political culture?
Yes, the Republicans could pass their own budget if they ever got a majority in the legislature, that’s how the system is supposed to work, and the Democrats, once they displaced them in a subsequent election, could pass their own budget, with a more progressive political orientation, without being hamstrung with the need to negotiate with budget hostage takers to get the necessary 55%, 60% or 67% required.
Maybe I should just consider this an example of wooly headed thinking, but I can’t help wondering if something else is afoot. Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.
More cynically, they also provide members with even more chances to vote for things that they know will never get to the Governor’s desk, so that they can market themselves to their constituents. If the requirement is 50% plus 1, a member better be sure that they really believe in something before they vote for it.
Yamada’s refusal to stand behind civil rights protection for gays, lesbians and disabled people speaks for itself.
–Richard Estes
Budget reform: I’d like to see a 55% to 60% threshold with a two-year budget cycle that aligns with the legislative session.
* I don’t support a simple majority budget – as I said at a forum in June 2007, simple majority works only when Democrats are in power. Let’s not forget that as recently as 1994, Democrats lost control of the Assembly – if that were to happen again, Republicans could use a simple majority to enact a right-wing budget laying ruin to programs hard-fought for by Democrats.
This makes absolutely no sense at all.
Any requirement for the passage of a budget greater than 50% plus 1 empowers the minority to eviscerate progressive social programs, as has occurred too many times numerous to mention with the current 2/3 requirement.
And, what’s so magic about 55% or 60%? Especially when compared to the majority rule principle that is so commonplace in our political culture?
Yes, the Republicans could pass their own budget if they ever got a majority in the legislature, that’s how the system is supposed to work, and the Democrats, once they displaced them in a subsequent election, could pass their own budget, with a more progressive political orientation, without being hamstrung with the need to negotiate with budget hostage takers to get the necessary 55%, 60% or 67% required.
Maybe I should just consider this an example of wooly headed thinking, but I can’t help wondering if something else is afoot. Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.
More cynically, they also provide members with even more chances to vote for things that they know will never get to the Governor’s desk, so that they can market themselves to their constituents. If the requirement is 50% plus 1, a member better be sure that they really believe in something before they vote for it.
Yamada’s refusal to stand behind civil rights protection for gays, lesbians and disabled people speaks for itself.
–Richard Estes
Budget reform: I’d like to see a 55% to 60% threshold with a two-year budget cycle that aligns with the legislative session.
* I don’t support a simple majority budget – as I said at a forum in June 2007, simple majority works only when Democrats are in power. Let’s not forget that as recently as 1994, Democrats lost control of the Assembly – if that were to happen again, Republicans could use a simple majority to enact a right-wing budget laying ruin to programs hard-fought for by Democrats.
This makes absolutely no sense at all.
Any requirement for the passage of a budget greater than 50% plus 1 empowers the minority to eviscerate progressive social programs, as has occurred too many times numerous to mention with the current 2/3 requirement.
And, what’s so magic about 55% or 60%? Especially when compared to the majority rule principle that is so commonplace in our political culture?
Yes, the Republicans could pass their own budget if they ever got a majority in the legislature, that’s how the system is supposed to work, and the Democrats, once they displaced them in a subsequent election, could pass their own budget, with a more progressive political orientation, without being hamstrung with the need to negotiate with budget hostage takers to get the necessary 55%, 60% or 67% required.
Maybe I should just consider this an example of wooly headed thinking, but I can’t help wondering if something else is afoot. Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.
More cynically, they also provide members with even more chances to vote for things that they know will never get to the Governor’s desk, so that they can market themselves to their constituents. If the requirement is 50% plus 1, a member better be sure that they really believe in something before they vote for it.
Yamada’s refusal to stand behind civil rights protection for gays, lesbians and disabled people speaks for itself.
–Richard Estes
Budget reform: I’d like to see a 55% to 60% threshold with a two-year budget cycle that aligns with the legislative session.
* I don’t support a simple majority budget – as I said at a forum in June 2007, simple majority works only when Democrats are in power. Let’s not forget that as recently as 1994, Democrats lost control of the Assembly – if that were to happen again, Republicans could use a simple majority to enact a right-wing budget laying ruin to programs hard-fought for by Democrats.
This makes absolutely no sense at all.
Any requirement for the passage of a budget greater than 50% plus 1 empowers the minority to eviscerate progressive social programs, as has occurred too many times numerous to mention with the current 2/3 requirement.
And, what’s so magic about 55% or 60%? Especially when compared to the majority rule principle that is so commonplace in our political culture?
Yes, the Republicans could pass their own budget if they ever got a majority in the legislature, that’s how the system is supposed to work, and the Democrats, once they displaced them in a subsequent election, could pass their own budget, with a more progressive political orientation, without being hamstrung with the need to negotiate with budget hostage takers to get the necessary 55%, 60% or 67% required.
Maybe I should just consider this an example of wooly headed thinking, but I can’t help wondering if something else is afoot. Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.
More cynically, they also provide members with even more chances to vote for things that they know will never get to the Governor’s desk, so that they can market themselves to their constituents. If the requirement is 50% plus 1, a member better be sure that they really believe in something before they vote for it.
Yamada’s refusal to stand behind civil rights protection for gays, lesbians and disabled people speaks for itself.
–Richard Estes
Ok…I’m not generally a huge fan of Mariko’s and will be voting for Christopher in the AD race, but pillorying her over her stance on LGTB issues is not fair and just plain wrong.
In fact, of the two candidates, Mariko has been by far the better elected official in defending LGTB issues/rights and pushing for equality between heterosexual and gay couples.
I’m not in a position to say whether or not she sent out an idiotic mailer to Solano voters – and I was surprised to learn that she even spent money on a mailer given how little she has. I’m just saying that as inconsistent as Mariko is on almost every other issue under the universe, she’s been the exact opposite on this one.
Ok…I’m not generally a huge fan of Mariko’s and will be voting for Christopher in the AD race, but pillorying her over her stance on LGTB issues is not fair and just plain wrong.
In fact, of the two candidates, Mariko has been by far the better elected official in defending LGTB issues/rights and pushing for equality between heterosexual and gay couples.
I’m not in a position to say whether or not she sent out an idiotic mailer to Solano voters – and I was surprised to learn that she even spent money on a mailer given how little she has. I’m just saying that as inconsistent as Mariko is on almost every other issue under the universe, she’s been the exact opposite on this one.
Ok…I’m not generally a huge fan of Mariko’s and will be voting for Christopher in the AD race, but pillorying her over her stance on LGTB issues is not fair and just plain wrong.
In fact, of the two candidates, Mariko has been by far the better elected official in defending LGTB issues/rights and pushing for equality between heterosexual and gay couples.
I’m not in a position to say whether or not she sent out an idiotic mailer to Solano voters – and I was surprised to learn that she even spent money on a mailer given how little she has. I’m just saying that as inconsistent as Mariko is on almost every other issue under the universe, she’s been the exact opposite on this one.
Ok…I’m not generally a huge fan of Mariko’s and will be voting for Christopher in the AD race, but pillorying her over her stance on LGTB issues is not fair and just plain wrong.
In fact, of the two candidates, Mariko has been by far the better elected official in defending LGTB issues/rights and pushing for equality between heterosexual and gay couples.
I’m not in a position to say whether or not she sent out an idiotic mailer to Solano voters – and I was surprised to learn that she even spent money on a mailer given how little she has. I’m just saying that as inconsistent as Mariko is on almost every other issue under the universe, she’s been the exact opposite on this one.
I agree with anonymous 12:15 PM.
The defender of gay rights is the straight woman who won’t mention it on her official campaign literature, not the actual out gay mayor that’s involved in every gay organization out there in the area.
I agree with anonymous 12:15 PM.
The defender of gay rights is the straight woman who won’t mention it on her official campaign literature, not the actual out gay mayor that’s involved in every gay organization out there in the area.
I agree with anonymous 12:15 PM.
The defender of gay rights is the straight woman who won’t mention it on her official campaign literature, not the actual out gay mayor that’s involved in every gay organization out there in the area.
I agree with anonymous 12:15 PM.
The defender of gay rights is the straight woman who won’t mention it on her official campaign literature, not the actual out gay mayor that’s involved in every gay organization out there in the area.
As a Los Angeles consultant looking at this race it is time for Mariko to toss in the towel and save her self the next 2 Mo. of her life, Money , friends and future contributors. She has a campaign plan that is failing and has pissed more people off then helped her campaign, she is going to lose the Party Endorsement, She has almost no money, no voting base, no campaign plan (since the one she had of a 2 message campaign just got exposed). She has lost all credibility in all the Democratic Values, Taxes, Cuts Gay Rights, human rights, and education. (I love the Every Student should read at a 9th grade level, including my 6 year old son and seniors in high schools.) If someone showed me this flyer I would have guessed it was a hit piece. When she Loses this race she is done with and won’t be able to raise money for anything else she runs for, but if she drops out she will still be able to raise money later.
That’s some good free advice
PS
As a Los Angeles consultant looking at this race it is time for Mariko to toss in the towel and save her self the next 2 Mo. of her life, Money , friends and future contributors. She has a campaign plan that is failing and has pissed more people off then helped her campaign, she is going to lose the Party Endorsement, She has almost no money, no voting base, no campaign plan (since the one she had of a 2 message campaign just got exposed). She has lost all credibility in all the Democratic Values, Taxes, Cuts Gay Rights, human rights, and education. (I love the Every Student should read at a 9th grade level, including my 6 year old son and seniors in high schools.) If someone showed me this flyer I would have guessed it was a hit piece. When she Loses this race she is done with and won’t be able to raise money for anything else she runs for, but if she drops out she will still be able to raise money later.
That’s some good free advice
PS
As a Los Angeles consultant looking at this race it is time for Mariko to toss in the towel and save her self the next 2 Mo. of her life, Money , friends and future contributors. She has a campaign plan that is failing and has pissed more people off then helped her campaign, she is going to lose the Party Endorsement, She has almost no money, no voting base, no campaign plan (since the one she had of a 2 message campaign just got exposed). She has lost all credibility in all the Democratic Values, Taxes, Cuts Gay Rights, human rights, and education. (I love the Every Student should read at a 9th grade level, including my 6 year old son and seniors in high schools.) If someone showed me this flyer I would have guessed it was a hit piece. When she Loses this race she is done with and won’t be able to raise money for anything else she runs for, but if she drops out she will still be able to raise money later.
That’s some good free advice
PS
As a Los Angeles consultant looking at this race it is time for Mariko to toss in the towel and save her self the next 2 Mo. of her life, Money , friends and future contributors. She has a campaign plan that is failing and has pissed more people off then helped her campaign, she is going to lose the Party Endorsement, She has almost no money, no voting base, no campaign plan (since the one she had of a 2 message campaign just got exposed). She has lost all credibility in all the Democratic Values, Taxes, Cuts Gay Rights, human rights, and education. (I love the Every Student should read at a 9th grade level, including my 6 year old son and seniors in high schools.) If someone showed me this flyer I would have guessed it was a hit piece. When she Loses this race she is done with and won’t be able to raise money for anything else she runs for, but if she drops out she will still be able to raise money later.
That’s some good free advice
PS
I just found out that Mariko’s daughter is pro LBGT and Mariko is proude of her daughter like she says on her website, and she will do something in October to support her daughter (Not the issue,but her daughter and October after the elections.). Wow, That’s very great on what her daughter is doing and how great it is that her daughter is in support of the LGBT community. I, like Mariko am proud of her daughter.
Hold on a second this is a very familiar situation that a daughter is very supportive of the LGBT issues and the parent forgets to talk about the issue. Humm that’s just Dicking around the issue, Dick Cheney that is.
I say no more Mariko stop Dicking around this Issue.
PS your right she should Just drop out.
I just found out that Mariko’s daughter is pro LBGT and Mariko is proude of her daughter like she says on her website, and she will do something in October to support her daughter (Not the issue,but her daughter and October after the elections.). Wow, That’s very great on what her daughter is doing and how great it is that her daughter is in support of the LGBT community. I, like Mariko am proud of her daughter.
Hold on a second this is a very familiar situation that a daughter is very supportive of the LGBT issues and the parent forgets to talk about the issue. Humm that’s just Dicking around the issue, Dick Cheney that is.
I say no more Mariko stop Dicking around this Issue.
PS your right she should Just drop out.
I just found out that Mariko’s daughter is pro LBGT and Mariko is proude of her daughter like she says on her website, and she will do something in October to support her daughter (Not the issue,but her daughter and October after the elections.). Wow, That’s very great on what her daughter is doing and how great it is that her daughter is in support of the LGBT community. I, like Mariko am proud of her daughter.
Hold on a second this is a very familiar situation that a daughter is very supportive of the LGBT issues and the parent forgets to talk about the issue. Humm that’s just Dicking around the issue, Dick Cheney that is.
I say no more Mariko stop Dicking around this Issue.
PS your right she should Just drop out.
I just found out that Mariko’s daughter is pro LBGT and Mariko is proude of her daughter like she says on her website, and she will do something in October to support her daughter (Not the issue,but her daughter and October after the elections.). Wow, That’s very great on what her daughter is doing and how great it is that her daughter is in support of the LGBT community. I, like Mariko am proud of her daughter.
Hold on a second this is a very familiar situation that a daughter is very supportive of the LGBT issues and the parent forgets to talk about the issue. Humm that’s just Dicking around the issue, Dick Cheney that is.
I say no more Mariko stop Dicking around this Issue.
PS your right she should Just drop out.
Hillary and Cabaldon.. both hoped that running a super-funded steamroller campaign from the get-go and claiming to be unstoppable would bring victory with a coronation by the Party Establishment…Oops… the voters thought differently and Hillary is down for the count.. next victim.. Cabaldon??
Hillary and Cabaldon.. both hoped that running a super-funded steamroller campaign from the get-go and claiming to be unstoppable would bring victory with a coronation by the Party Establishment…Oops… the voters thought differently and Hillary is down for the count.. next victim.. Cabaldon??
Hillary and Cabaldon.. both hoped that running a super-funded steamroller campaign from the get-go and claiming to be unstoppable would bring victory with a coronation by the Party Establishment…Oops… the voters thought differently and Hillary is down for the count.. next victim.. Cabaldon??
Hillary and Cabaldon.. both hoped that running a super-funded steamroller campaign from the get-go and claiming to be unstoppable would bring victory with a coronation by the Party Establishment…Oops… the voters thought differently and Hillary is down for the count.. next victim.. Cabaldon??
i’m generally leaning towards mariko, but this supermajority budget thing is ridiculous, as is the prop 13 position. you don’t stop the far right minority by giving them veto power over the budget.
i’m generally leaning towards mariko, but this supermajority budget thing is ridiculous, as is the prop 13 position. you don’t stop the far right minority by giving them veto power over the budget.
i’m generally leaning towards mariko, but this supermajority budget thing is ridiculous, as is the prop 13 position. you don’t stop the far right minority by giving them veto power over the budget.
i’m generally leaning towards mariko, but this supermajority budget thing is ridiculous, as is the prop 13 position. you don’t stop the far right minority by giving them veto power over the budget.
Don’t Forget Hillary is out raised and out spent. Mariko can sell her house and still wont out spend Cabaldon. Checked on Zillow. Also Hillary’s opponent did not use anti-gay and anti-handicapible rhetoric, Mariko did. Hillary’s opponent also did not say they support anti tax legislation in a tight budget year, that’s says supporting cuts, Mariko Did.
Its done Mariko.
The State convention is a good time to state your support for Caboldon and Drop out, respectably. Just say you want to spend more time with family.
Don’t Forget Hillary is out raised and out spent. Mariko can sell her house and still wont out spend Cabaldon. Checked on Zillow. Also Hillary’s opponent did not use anti-gay and anti-handicapible rhetoric, Mariko did. Hillary’s opponent also did not say they support anti tax legislation in a tight budget year, that’s says supporting cuts, Mariko Did.
Its done Mariko.
The State convention is a good time to state your support for Caboldon and Drop out, respectably. Just say you want to spend more time with family.
Don’t Forget Hillary is out raised and out spent. Mariko can sell her house and still wont out spend Cabaldon. Checked on Zillow. Also Hillary’s opponent did not use anti-gay and anti-handicapible rhetoric, Mariko did. Hillary’s opponent also did not say they support anti tax legislation in a tight budget year, that’s says supporting cuts, Mariko Did.
Its done Mariko.
The State convention is a good time to state your support for Caboldon and Drop out, respectably. Just say you want to spend more time with family.
Don’t Forget Hillary is out raised and out spent. Mariko can sell her house and still wont out spend Cabaldon. Checked on Zillow. Also Hillary’s opponent did not use anti-gay and anti-handicapible rhetoric, Mariko did. Hillary’s opponent also did not say they support anti tax legislation in a tight budget year, that’s says supporting cuts, Mariko Did.
Its done Mariko.
The State convention is a good time to state your support for Caboldon and Drop out, respectably. Just say you want to spend more time with family.
“Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.”
Yes, and it depends on which side of the fence you are on whether a supermajority is favorable. Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? I think I have that one right. Wouldn’t it have passed if there had only been a majority vote? If this is not a good example, I am sure there are others that illustrate my point…
I don’t disagree with your assessment that a supermajority favors the status quo (and possibly developer interests). But that is the whole point. Let’s not change what was voter approved, unless there is a very good showing that voters want it very badly. When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
As for developers, they have their ways of influencing politicians outside the legal bounds of the law, regardless of supermajorities or simple majorities. That is a whole other issue, and one that needs to be dealt with…
“Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.”
Yes, and it depends on which side of the fence you are on whether a supermajority is favorable. Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? I think I have that one right. Wouldn’t it have passed if there had only been a majority vote? If this is not a good example, I am sure there are others that illustrate my point…
I don’t disagree with your assessment that a supermajority favors the status quo (and possibly developer interests). But that is the whole point. Let’s not change what was voter approved, unless there is a very good showing that voters want it very badly. When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
As for developers, they have their ways of influencing politicians outside the legal bounds of the law, regardless of supermajorities or simple majorities. That is a whole other issue, and one that needs to be dealt with…
“Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.”
Yes, and it depends on which side of the fence you are on whether a supermajority is favorable. Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? I think I have that one right. Wouldn’t it have passed if there had only been a majority vote? If this is not a good example, I am sure there are others that illustrate my point…
I don’t disagree with your assessment that a supermajority favors the status quo (and possibly developer interests). But that is the whole point. Let’s not change what was voter approved, unless there is a very good showing that voters want it very badly. When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
As for developers, they have their ways of influencing politicians outside the legal bounds of the law, regardless of supermajorities or simple majorities. That is a whole other issue, and one that needs to be dealt with…
“Supermajorities for the passage of a budget empower vested interests like real estate developers, insurance companies, major corporations, agriculture and others with the opportunity to stop policies too far outside the box of conventional policy.
Hence, creative budget policy from the right, center and left faces a more uphill struggle towards implementation. In other words, supermajorities rather obviously tilt the playing field in favor of the status quo.”
Yes, and it depends on which side of the fence you are on whether a supermajority is favorable. Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? I think I have that one right. Wouldn’t it have passed if there had only been a majority vote? If this is not a good example, I am sure there are others that illustrate my point…
I don’t disagree with your assessment that a supermajority favors the status quo (and possibly developer interests). But that is the whole point. Let’s not change what was voter approved, unless there is a very good showing that voters want it very badly. When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
As for developers, they have their ways of influencing politicians outside the legal bounds of the law, regardless of supermajorities or simple majorities. That is a whole other issue, and one that needs to be dealt with…
When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
I shouldn’t be surprised that one of the unique features of Davis elitism is a distrust of democratic processes in which the votes of all are weighted equally.
Yes, kooky things happened in democratic systems, but your assumption that more kooky things happen in democratic ones than others is arguable to say the least. Good things happen as well, because people are motivated to politically participate in the belief that they can achieve the political changes that they want.
The supermajority requirement essentially allows a minority to dictate policy decisions. I’m at a loss to see how that’s a good thing, and the record in California is clear, it has been used to cut funding for progressive programs while law enforcement and the prison system have expanded. But then, you probably think democratic centralism is a good idea, too.
–Richard Estes
When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
I shouldn’t be surprised that one of the unique features of Davis elitism is a distrust of democratic processes in which the votes of all are weighted equally.
Yes, kooky things happened in democratic systems, but your assumption that more kooky things happen in democratic ones than others is arguable to say the least. Good things happen as well, because people are motivated to politically participate in the belief that they can achieve the political changes that they want.
The supermajority requirement essentially allows a minority to dictate policy decisions. I’m at a loss to see how that’s a good thing, and the record in California is clear, it has been used to cut funding for progressive programs while law enforcement and the prison system have expanded. But then, you probably think democratic centralism is a good idea, too.
–Richard Estes
When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
I shouldn’t be surprised that one of the unique features of Davis elitism is a distrust of democratic processes in which the votes of all are weighted equally.
Yes, kooky things happened in democratic systems, but your assumption that more kooky things happen in democratic ones than others is arguable to say the least. Good things happen as well, because people are motivated to politically participate in the belief that they can achieve the political changes that they want.
The supermajority requirement essentially allows a minority to dictate policy decisions. I’m at a loss to see how that’s a good thing, and the record in California is clear, it has been used to cut funding for progressive programs while law enforcement and the prison system have expanded. But then, you probably think democratic centralism is a good idea, too.
–Richard Estes
When it is a simple majority, kooky things can get through that were not as well thought out. I think a supermajority is used because we as a voting bloc wanted to err on the side of being conservative (safer) in passing new legislation. (Note how many passed state propostions end up being overturned in court later on.) Makes sense to me…
I shouldn’t be surprised that one of the unique features of Davis elitism is a distrust of democratic processes in which the votes of all are weighted equally.
Yes, kooky things happened in democratic systems, but your assumption that more kooky things happen in democratic ones than others is arguable to say the least. Good things happen as well, because people are motivated to politically participate in the belief that they can achieve the political changes that they want.
The supermajority requirement essentially allows a minority to dictate policy decisions. I’m at a loss to see how that’s a good thing, and the record in California is clear, it has been used to cut funding for progressive programs while law enforcement and the prison system have expanded. But then, you probably think democratic centralism is a good idea, too.
–Richard Estes
All for supermajorities said:
“Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? “
Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.
All for supermajorities said:
“Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? “
Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.
All for supermajorities said:
“Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? “
Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.
All for supermajorities said:
“Remember Covell Village? Isn’t it true that Measure J requires a 2/3 majority to approve development projects? “
Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.
“Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.”
Thanks for the clarification. I could not remember whether Measure J required a supermajority or simple majority. Bad example on my part. I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!
“Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.”
Thanks for the clarification. I could not remember whether Measure J required a supermajority or simple majority. Bad example on my part. I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!
“Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.”
Thanks for the clarification. I could not remember whether Measure J required a supermajority or simple majority. Bad example on my part. I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!
“Measure J is not a supermajority issue as the decision is based upon a simple majority vote. Of course, we may see the NEXT Council majority “amend” Measure J to require a 2/3 citizen NO vote to stop a development. We will learn soon from city counsel Harriet Steiner how much discretion the NEXT Council majority has in amending Measure J before it is put before the voters in 2010. ALL Davis voters should take note of the fact that the make-up of the NEXT COUNCIL MAJORITY could likely seal the fate of our Measure J.”
Thanks for the clarification. I could not remember whether Measure J required a supermajority or simple majority. Bad example on my part. I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!
“I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!”
We can expect Saylor and Souza to be “converted” Measure J supporters for their upcoming reelection campaign. Beyond campaign rhetoric, however, their public record in office is unabashedly aligned with developer special interests. Souza’s record of anti-populist public positions and Saylor’s determination to fill his campaign war chest to fund his future political ambition make them a very risky duo in whose hands the voters would place the fate of Measure J.
“I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!”
We can expect Saylor and Souza to be “converted” Measure J supporters for their upcoming reelection campaign. Beyond campaign rhetoric, however, their public record in office is unabashedly aligned with developer special interests. Souza’s record of anti-populist public positions and Saylor’s determination to fill his campaign war chest to fund his future political ambition make them a very risky duo in whose hands the voters would place the fate of Measure J.
“I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!”
We can expect Saylor and Souza to be “converted” Measure J supporters for their upcoming reelection campaign. Beyond campaign rhetoric, however, their public record in office is unabashedly aligned with developer special interests. Souza’s record of anti-populist public positions and Saylor’s determination to fill his campaign war chest to fund his future political ambition make them a very risky duo in whose hands the voters would place the fate of Measure J.
“I do get your point about amending Measure J – that is one piece of legislation I would hate to be messed with…I like it just the way it is!”
We can expect Saylor and Souza to be “converted” Measure J supporters for their upcoming reelection campaign. Beyond campaign rhetoric, however, their public record in office is unabashedly aligned with developer special interests. Souza’s record of anti-populist public positions and Saylor’s determination to fill his campaign war chest to fund his future political ambition make them a very risky duo in whose hands the voters would place the fate of Measure J.