School Board Votes 4-1 To Rebuff Superintendent’s Recommendation on Charter School

In yesterday’s article, the Vanguard reported:

“Contrary to our bleak assessment yesterday on Valley Oak, it appears according to published reports that late discussions between Superintendent James Hammond and supports for the Valley Oak Charter have produced an agreement that have enabled the Superintendent to recommend approval of the plan.”

As it turns out, the original bleak assessment turned out to be much more accurate. That would become clear one hour into new school board member Susan Lovenburg’s lengthy question and answer session that seemed at times more like a filibuster or a cross-examination than an effort to absorb information.

Superintendent James Hammond repeatedly urged the school board to take a chance at doing the right thing by allowing the process to go forward.

However, the charter was likely doomed the moment Associate Superintendent Bruce Colby laid out the facts. With 167 students, the bare minimum, the school district would be projected to lose an additional $300,000 on this arrangement. Even with the projected 305 students, the district would lose $200,000.

All night the elephant in the room was the budget and “fiduciary” responsibility. Despite the fact that according to state law, the fiscal impact on the district cannot be criteria for denial of the charter. Board members ranging from Tim Taylor to Susan Lovenburg and Richard Harris said that unfortunately this could not be ignored.

Mr. Taylor somewhat diplomatically suggested that there was a conflict between the state law that governs charter schools and the laws that charge the school board with fiduciary responsibility.

Ms. Lovenburg much less diplomatically suggested that she would write her state legislator and try to get the law changed. However, the law is there for a key reason and that is to give charter schools a fighting chance to get passed. Without such laws, the school board could always have a ready reason to strike down approval.

Throughout the proceedings, the Vanguard and much of the audience was taken aback by the demeaner and approach of newly elected school board member Susan Lovenburg. She began with a long cross-examination of Charter Petition drafter Mike Egan and continued throughout the meeting with a lengthy series of questions. At one point, she asked six questions after she said she had one more question.

She increasingly became combative from the dais, clashing with DTA Representative Steve Kelleher at one point and then seemed to accuse the teachers and drafters of failing to be sufficiently rigorous in their work. This prompted Tim Paulson of the DTA to angrily rise and point out the huge amount of work that went into drafting the original document of the charter.

Ms. Lovenburg claimed to have come to the meeting undecided, but her line of questioning belied that claim. Moreover, her approach and demeaner were at times condescending and insulting to those who had poured sweat and toil into this process.

While one can disagree with Richard Harris in his choice, he was at least honest from the beginning, stating that this was not a close call for him and explaining why he would be voting against this resolution. At one point he took umbrage with a letter from parents presented at a previous meeting that accused the district of lack of sympathy and respect for EL Students. He rightly pointed out that while that may have been true in the past, and over the previous 5 to 10 years he had no doubt there was a lack of respect. However, Superintendent James Hammond had shown nothing but respect to the people of this district, going well above and beyond the call of duty.

Board member Gina Daleiden was genuinely torn on this issue between her responsibility to the students of Valley Oak and those of the rest of the district. As she did last year however, she voted in the end against the charter.

Board member Tim Taylor tried to find another way by suggesting that they wait another year to make sure the charter could succeed rather than rushing to implement it. However, it was clear that the petitioners were not in support of this approach. They feared closing down the school and trying to recreate what was there would prove impossible. Some suggested this was a ploy, but in my view, Taylor’s approach was sincere.

The highlight of the evening was student representative Amanda Lopez-Lara’s valient and eloquent advocacy for Valley Oak. Staying well into the night, she delivered a passionate statement talking about her family and what Valley Oak meant to them and then a plea for the school district to provide the means for Latinos and disadvantaged students with not only a place to learn but a place to call home. Her statement was clearly the highlight of the evening along with Sheila Allen’s almost tearful support of the charter, the sole board member to support it.

In the end, the recommendation and work of James Hammond was valiant but futile. Factors that were not supposed to weigh on the minds of the board members weighed on their minds.

The process however will go forward. The petitioners plan to appeal the process to the county. If the county accepts the appeal, they become the authorizing body. Not mentioned at this meeting was the cost to the district should that occur which according to some estimates may run upwards of $1 million rather than $300,000 as current estimates suggest. If the county were to deny the charter, the state board could authorize it and then assign a body to govern it. This would also be potentially costly.

A further point that was raised is that the appeal would be the original charter that the board deemed to be inadequate rather than the newly negotiated charter, that was referred to as the Hammond Charter throughout the evening. The stakes here could be very high for the district and while it seems unlikely the county would reverse the decision, the state has a long history of doing exactly that.

After the meeting, the Vanguard caught up with Bill Storm, science teacher at Valley Oak:

“The elephant in the room might have been the $300,000 [a charter would cost the district], but the brontosaurus was race and class.”

Mike Egan very graciously emailed the Vanguard a statement at 1:55 AM early this morning.

“The Founding Group of the Valley Oak Charter School is deeply disappointed at the DJUSD Board’s action to reject a compromise charter petition. This compromise was the product of much good faith work between the Founding Group and the Superintendent and his staff. We believe the Board has missed an important opportunity to address the needs of an all too often neglected segment of the Davis community. We appreciate the support from members of the community who spoke in favor of the charter proposal. We particularly appreciate the insights offered by the student representative to the Board in speaking in favor of the charter. We will be meeting to consider our future course of action, including an appeal to the Yolo County Office of Education. “

As Steve Kelleher pointed out to a group outside following the verdict, this has been an uphill battle from the start but it is not over.

For my part, I did not expect to be writing this after the news came forth that the Superintendent was recommending passage. I am disappointed with the board for their decision and their lack of faith in the work of the Superintendent. I am disappointed that once again, the burden falls on those students who are most disadvantaged and least able. And finally I am disappointed that this fight that appeared over will have to continue for the parents, teachers, and students for a number of additional months.

The agreement that was reached was tough. It had concrete deadlines. These deadlines were built in to assure success. In some ways the school district ignored completely charter school law. The degree to which financial considerations weighed on the minds of school board members was discussed openly and will be admissible as a reason for appeal. This could actually put the school district at even greater risk. The degree to which the attendance issue weighed on the minds of the school board also has implications. The charter school law provides that they only need to get the signatures of half of the students. They actually got signatures for two-thirds of the students and yet that was never enough.

Yes the district is facing a severe budget crunch. Tim Taylor spoke of the need possibly to cut another school. However, the school district does not have the option to ignore state law on charter schools. By denying this charter there is the potential there that the district will face a loss of money three times what they currently project. If that occurs, how many programs are they going to have to cut?

This is a disappointing outcome for sure. But the fight is not over. Last night after the verdict there was no defeat, only resolve.

—Doug Paul Davis reporting

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  1. Watched entire mtg on TV and you did good job reporting. Susan Lovenburg was extremely rude in her questioning and demeanor….l felt the nadir was when she asked if the ‘chartering group would work dilligently’ on the timeline….unbelievable…..
    And Richard Harris was very discounting when he coined the resolution the ‘Hammond charter’. Knowing what little l do but assume from his conciliatory actions so far, l imagine Dr Hammond was not pleased with this characterization, yet it stuck through the night….appearing to minimize the input, impact and quality of the founding group….
    Finances aside, it would serve the Board
    right if the group appealed and were accepted by the cty, however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr. l look forward to hearing their decision and hope they decide to pursue.

  2. Watched entire mtg on TV and you did good job reporting. Susan Lovenburg was extremely rude in her questioning and demeanor….l felt the nadir was when she asked if the ‘chartering group would work dilligently’ on the timeline….unbelievable…..
    And Richard Harris was very discounting when he coined the resolution the ‘Hammond charter’. Knowing what little l do but assume from his conciliatory actions so far, l imagine Dr Hammond was not pleased with this characterization, yet it stuck through the night….appearing to minimize the input, impact and quality of the founding group….
    Finances aside, it would serve the Board
    right if the group appealed and were accepted by the cty, however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr. l look forward to hearing their decision and hope they decide to pursue.

  3. Watched entire mtg on TV and you did good job reporting. Susan Lovenburg was extremely rude in her questioning and demeanor….l felt the nadir was when she asked if the ‘chartering group would work dilligently’ on the timeline….unbelievable…..
    And Richard Harris was very discounting when he coined the resolution the ‘Hammond charter’. Knowing what little l do but assume from his conciliatory actions so far, l imagine Dr Hammond was not pleased with this characterization, yet it stuck through the night….appearing to minimize the input, impact and quality of the founding group….
    Finances aside, it would serve the Board
    right if the group appealed and were accepted by the cty, however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr. l look forward to hearing their decision and hope they decide to pursue.

  4. Watched entire mtg on TV and you did good job reporting. Susan Lovenburg was extremely rude in her questioning and demeanor….l felt the nadir was when she asked if the ‘chartering group would work dilligently’ on the timeline….unbelievable…..
    And Richard Harris was very discounting when he coined the resolution the ‘Hammond charter’. Knowing what little l do but assume from his conciliatory actions so far, l imagine Dr Hammond was not pleased with this characterization, yet it stuck through the night….appearing to minimize the input, impact and quality of the founding group….
    Finances aside, it would serve the Board
    right if the group appealed and were accepted by the cty, however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr. l look forward to hearing their decision and hope they decide to pursue.

  5. ..AND A CHILD SHALL LEAD THEM….
    Student representative Amanda Lopez-Lara was eloquent. The school board meeting last evening in the face of the recommendation of its Superintendent demonstrated exactly why the State’s charter school legislation is written as it is. The County may very well overturn this decision but the State will undoubtedly do so. This school board vote cut their new Superintendent off “at the knees” and will cost the District more money in legal fees and school transportation requirements for Valley Oak families. In the end, it was a sad but valuable evening,perhaps forcing those who listened to come to grips with another aspect of the “dark underbelly” of our Davis community.

  6. ..AND A CHILD SHALL LEAD THEM….
    Student representative Amanda Lopez-Lara was eloquent. The school board meeting last evening in the face of the recommendation of its Superintendent demonstrated exactly why the State’s charter school legislation is written as it is. The County may very well overturn this decision but the State will undoubtedly do so. This school board vote cut their new Superintendent off “at the knees” and will cost the District more money in legal fees and school transportation requirements for Valley Oak families. In the end, it was a sad but valuable evening,perhaps forcing those who listened to come to grips with another aspect of the “dark underbelly” of our Davis community.

  7. ..AND A CHILD SHALL LEAD THEM….
    Student representative Amanda Lopez-Lara was eloquent. The school board meeting last evening in the face of the recommendation of its Superintendent demonstrated exactly why the State’s charter school legislation is written as it is. The County may very well overturn this decision but the State will undoubtedly do so. This school board vote cut their new Superintendent off “at the knees” and will cost the District more money in legal fees and school transportation requirements for Valley Oak families. In the end, it was a sad but valuable evening,perhaps forcing those who listened to come to grips with another aspect of the “dark underbelly” of our Davis community.

  8. ..AND A CHILD SHALL LEAD THEM….
    Student representative Amanda Lopez-Lara was eloquent. The school board meeting last evening in the face of the recommendation of its Superintendent demonstrated exactly why the State’s charter school legislation is written as it is. The County may very well overturn this decision but the State will undoubtedly do so. This school board vote cut their new Superintendent off “at the knees” and will cost the District more money in legal fees and school transportation requirements for Valley Oak families. In the end, it was a sad but valuable evening,perhaps forcing those who listened to come to grips with another aspect of the “dark underbelly” of our Davis community.

  9. “however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr.”

    This is a very important point. The charter group agreed to work with the Superintendent and his staff in good faith and extend the deadline to January 24. They agreed to an agreement with the Superintendent, only to have the board still reject the proposal outright. The board did them no favors in this process, but it appears their goal is to kill the charter.

  10. “however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr.”

    This is a very important point. The charter group agreed to work with the Superintendent and his staff in good faith and extend the deadline to January 24. They agreed to an agreement with the Superintendent, only to have the board still reject the proposal outright. The board did them no favors in this process, but it appears their goal is to kill the charter.

  11. “however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr.”

    This is a very important point. The charter group agreed to work with the Superintendent and his staff in good faith and extend the deadline to January 24. They agreed to an agreement with the Superintendent, only to have the board still reject the proposal outright. The board did them no favors in this process, but it appears their goal is to kill the charter.

  12. “however they are now in a time bind….to my thinking, the charter group allowed the extra time for negotiation, which has in the end put them way back in time for a viable program next yr.”

    This is a very important point. The charter group agreed to work with the Superintendent and his staff in good faith and extend the deadline to January 24. They agreed to an agreement with the Superintendent, only to have the board still reject the proposal outright. The board did them no favors in this process, but it appears their goal is to kill the charter.

  13. Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.

  14. Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.

  15. Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.

  16. Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.

  17. “Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.”

    Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.

  18. “Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.”

    Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.

  19. “Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.”

    Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.

  20. “Hammond made a big mistake in going forward to reach an agreement without consulting with the board beforehand. The decision was as much a blow to him as to the charter people.”

    Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.

  21. Amanda Lopez-Lara is a bright young girl. It’s amazing that she could cut to the chase and see the need for and the importance of approving the VOC.

    Kudos to Shiela Allen for supporting VOC. She too eloquently and passionately stated the need for VOC.

    I applaud the VOC parents and advocates and hope that they continue fighting for the VOC. If the county doesn’t approve it the state will.
    I thank you for fighting for the kids! You have all shown your dedication to them and to making the VOC work. Please don’t let the insulting comments and questions from one particular school board member hinder you, or the lack of school board member support hinder you.

    We in the community support you!

  22. Amanda Lopez-Lara is a bright young girl. It’s amazing that she could cut to the chase and see the need for and the importance of approving the VOC.

    Kudos to Shiela Allen for supporting VOC. She too eloquently and passionately stated the need for VOC.

    I applaud the VOC parents and advocates and hope that they continue fighting for the VOC. If the county doesn’t approve it the state will.
    I thank you for fighting for the kids! You have all shown your dedication to them and to making the VOC work. Please don’t let the insulting comments and questions from one particular school board member hinder you, or the lack of school board member support hinder you.

    We in the community support you!

  23. Amanda Lopez-Lara is a bright young girl. It’s amazing that she could cut to the chase and see the need for and the importance of approving the VOC.

    Kudos to Shiela Allen for supporting VOC. She too eloquently and passionately stated the need for VOC.

    I applaud the VOC parents and advocates and hope that they continue fighting for the VOC. If the county doesn’t approve it the state will.
    I thank you for fighting for the kids! You have all shown your dedication to them and to making the VOC work. Please don’t let the insulting comments and questions from one particular school board member hinder you, or the lack of school board member support hinder you.

    We in the community support you!

  24. Amanda Lopez-Lara is a bright young girl. It’s amazing that she could cut to the chase and see the need for and the importance of approving the VOC.

    Kudos to Shiela Allen for supporting VOC. She too eloquently and passionately stated the need for VOC.

    I applaud the VOC parents and advocates and hope that they continue fighting for the VOC. If the county doesn’t approve it the state will.
    I thank you for fighting for the kids! You have all shown your dedication to them and to making the VOC work. Please don’t let the insulting comments and questions from one particular school board member hinder you, or the lack of school board member support hinder you.

    We in the community support you!

  25. Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.

  26. Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.

  27. Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.

  28. Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.

  29. Like DPD, I sat through the entire proceedings until the vote at 12:15 a.m. Any comments I make about the demeanor of individual board members would be very undiplomatic, and therefore possibly counterproductive to the appeal process. So I’ll just say that the four board members, having each cited the fiscal impact on the district as their nearly sole rationale for voting against the charter, have given the Charter Founding Group all they need to go forward with their appeal to the county and the state.

    I hope there will be a transcript of their statements, because staff will now probably have to craft some opposing document based on their prior reasoning as this goes to the county. The words of the individual board members will undercut any staff argument at the county level: one by one, they cited the fiscal impact on the district. Aside from the fuzziness of that fiscal impact, charter law is very clear. School charter law has been written and refined specifically to prevent districts from blocking charter schools.

    Moreover, any argument presented to the county will be written by the same staff that worked diligently and in good faith over the last few weeks with the charter group. The DJUSD staff deserves credit and recognition for what they came up with. But the board has undercut them badly here.

    Years ago we appealed a DJUSD decision to the county board of education. It’s important to know that county board members are not lawyers, and might give weight to the fiscal arguments. They will also be less aware of the emotional commitment of the Valley Oak families, staff, and neighbors. So turnout at the appeal hearing will be even more important than it was last night.

  30. Like DPD, I sat through the entire proceedings until the vote at 12:15 a.m. Any comments I make about the demeanor of individual board members would be very undiplomatic, and therefore possibly counterproductive to the appeal process. So I’ll just say that the four board members, having each cited the fiscal impact on the district as their nearly sole rationale for voting against the charter, have given the Charter Founding Group all they need to go forward with their appeal to the county and the state.

    I hope there will be a transcript of their statements, because staff will now probably have to craft some opposing document based on their prior reasoning as this goes to the county. The words of the individual board members will undercut any staff argument at the county level: one by one, they cited the fiscal impact on the district. Aside from the fuzziness of that fiscal impact, charter law is very clear. School charter law has been written and refined specifically to prevent districts from blocking charter schools.

    Moreover, any argument presented to the county will be written by the same staff that worked diligently and in good faith over the last few weeks with the charter group. The DJUSD staff deserves credit and recognition for what they came up with. But the board has undercut them badly here.

    Years ago we appealed a DJUSD decision to the county board of education. It’s important to know that county board members are not lawyers, and might give weight to the fiscal arguments. They will also be less aware of the emotional commitment of the Valley Oak families, staff, and neighbors. So turnout at the appeal hearing will be even more important than it was last night.

  31. Like DPD, I sat through the entire proceedings until the vote at 12:15 a.m. Any comments I make about the demeanor of individual board members would be very undiplomatic, and therefore possibly counterproductive to the appeal process. So I’ll just say that the four board members, having each cited the fiscal impact on the district as their nearly sole rationale for voting against the charter, have given the Charter Founding Group all they need to go forward with their appeal to the county and the state.

    I hope there will be a transcript of their statements, because staff will now probably have to craft some opposing document based on their prior reasoning as this goes to the county. The words of the individual board members will undercut any staff argument at the county level: one by one, they cited the fiscal impact on the district. Aside from the fuzziness of that fiscal impact, charter law is very clear. School charter law has been written and refined specifically to prevent districts from blocking charter schools.

    Moreover, any argument presented to the county will be written by the same staff that worked diligently and in good faith over the last few weeks with the charter group. The DJUSD staff deserves credit and recognition for what they came up with. But the board has undercut them badly here.

    Years ago we appealed a DJUSD decision to the county board of education. It’s important to know that county board members are not lawyers, and might give weight to the fiscal arguments. They will also be less aware of the emotional commitment of the Valley Oak families, staff, and neighbors. So turnout at the appeal hearing will be even more important than it was last night.

  32. Like DPD, I sat through the entire proceedings until the vote at 12:15 a.m. Any comments I make about the demeanor of individual board members would be very undiplomatic, and therefore possibly counterproductive to the appeal process. So I’ll just say that the four board members, having each cited the fiscal impact on the district as their nearly sole rationale for voting against the charter, have given the Charter Founding Group all they need to go forward with their appeal to the county and the state.

    I hope there will be a transcript of their statements, because staff will now probably have to craft some opposing document based on their prior reasoning as this goes to the county. The words of the individual board members will undercut any staff argument at the county level: one by one, they cited the fiscal impact on the district. Aside from the fuzziness of that fiscal impact, charter law is very clear. School charter law has been written and refined specifically to prevent districts from blocking charter schools.

    Moreover, any argument presented to the county will be written by the same staff that worked diligently and in good faith over the last few weeks with the charter group. The DJUSD staff deserves credit and recognition for what they came up with. But the board has undercut them badly here.

    Years ago we appealed a DJUSD decision to the county board of education. It’s important to know that county board members are not lawyers, and might give weight to the fiscal arguments. They will also be less aware of the emotional commitment of the Valley Oak families, staff, and neighbors. So turnout at the appeal hearing will be even more important than it was last night.

  33. ” observer said…

    “Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.”

    Hmmm… that’s not my understanding.

    1/25/08 9:18 AM
    Anonymous observer said…

    Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.”

    There were a couple of references during the discussion about communication between Dr. Hammond and the board members.
    Other than Richard Harris, though, I think the board members came into the meeting somewhat undecided, though to varying degrees. I got the impression that they hadn’t seen some of the information until just before the meeting, including the fiscal analysis.

  34. ” observer said…

    “Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.”

    Hmmm… that’s not my understanding.

    1/25/08 9:18 AM
    Anonymous observer said…

    Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.”

    There were a couple of references during the discussion about communication between Dr. Hammond and the board members.
    Other than Richard Harris, though, I think the board members came into the meeting somewhat undecided, though to varying degrees. I got the impression that they hadn’t seen some of the information until just before the meeting, including the fiscal analysis.

  35. ” observer said…

    “Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.”

    Hmmm… that’s not my understanding.

    1/25/08 9:18 AM
    Anonymous observer said…

    Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.”

    There were a couple of references during the discussion about communication between Dr. Hammond and the board members.
    Other than Richard Harris, though, I think the board members came into the meeting somewhat undecided, though to varying degrees. I got the impression that they hadn’t seen some of the information until just before the meeting, including the fiscal analysis.

  36. ” observer said…

    “Dr. Hammond was in contact with the board every step of the way during this process.”

    Hmmm… that’s not my understanding.

    1/25/08 9:18 AM
    Anonymous observer said…

    Just to add, if he were in contact back in forth with them throughout the process then would he not expect them to be on board with the deal he cut? It was a 4-1 decision. Four of the five board members did not go along with him. That suggests there was a failure of communication along the way.”

    There were a couple of references during the discussion about communication between Dr. Hammond and the board members.
    Other than Richard Harris, though, I think the board members came into the meeting somewhat undecided, though to varying degrees. I got the impression that they hadn’t seen some of the information until just before the meeting, including the fiscal analysis.

  37. To follow on Don’s comment, I was in contact with at least two board members who were in close contact with Dr. Hammond, I think the fiscal analysis and the $300,000 number came as a surprise and were decisive. Interestingly enough I had met with Bruce Colby on another matter earlier this week and he brought up the figure, so I had assumed they knew about it.

  38. To follow on Don’s comment, I was in contact with at least two board members who were in close contact with Dr. Hammond, I think the fiscal analysis and the $300,000 number came as a surprise and were decisive. Interestingly enough I had met with Bruce Colby on another matter earlier this week and he brought up the figure, so I had assumed they knew about it.

  39. To follow on Don’s comment, I was in contact with at least two board members who were in close contact with Dr. Hammond, I think the fiscal analysis and the $300,000 number came as a surprise and were decisive. Interestingly enough I had met with Bruce Colby on another matter earlier this week and he brought up the figure, so I had assumed they knew about it.

  40. To follow on Don’s comment, I was in contact with at least two board members who were in close contact with Dr. Hammond, I think the fiscal analysis and the $300,000 number came as a surprise and were decisive. Interestingly enough I had met with Bruce Colby on another matter earlier this week and he brought up the figure, so I had assumed they knew about it.

  41. I’m pretty sure we all knew that losing students to the charter would cost the district some money. I find this same lack of insight by the board members to be disturbing. I also question the $4,000,000+ hit DJUSD will be taking next year. The state budget still has to pass the Democrat controlled legislature. I doubt loss in funds will be that significant and feel it was used as a scare tactic.

  42. I’m pretty sure we all knew that losing students to the charter would cost the district some money. I find this same lack of insight by the board members to be disturbing. I also question the $4,000,000+ hit DJUSD will be taking next year. The state budget still has to pass the Democrat controlled legislature. I doubt loss in funds will be that significant and feel it was used as a scare tactic.

  43. I’m pretty sure we all knew that losing students to the charter would cost the district some money. I find this same lack of insight by the board members to be disturbing. I also question the $4,000,000+ hit DJUSD will be taking next year. The state budget still has to pass the Democrat controlled legislature. I doubt loss in funds will be that significant and feel it was used as a scare tactic.

  44. I’m pretty sure we all knew that losing students to the charter would cost the district some money. I find this same lack of insight by the board members to be disturbing. I also question the $4,000,000+ hit DJUSD will be taking next year. The state budget still has to pass the Democrat controlled legislature. I doubt loss in funds will be that significant and feel it was used as a scare tactic.

  45. Sorry I couldn’t be there because of 16 hour workdays leading up to the election.

    I am ashamed of the School Board. This should not be happening. I wish I thought that they had the heart to be ashamed of themselves.

    I am not surprised by reports of Lovenburg’s rude behavior. She talked at my adult daughter unceasingly one morning at the Farmer’s Market and was immune to any idea not her own.

    But this is so much worse than I expected, even from this bunch. Why did they hire Hammond if they are frightened by his vision???

    My late father used to say, “When you’ve got problems that money can’t fix, THEN you’ve got problems.” Well, this group has problems that all the money there is won’t fix. Holy cow. God save the school children of Davis. Poor Hammond.

  46. Sorry I couldn’t be there because of 16 hour workdays leading up to the election.

    I am ashamed of the School Board. This should not be happening. I wish I thought that they had the heart to be ashamed of themselves.

    I am not surprised by reports of Lovenburg’s rude behavior. She talked at my adult daughter unceasingly one morning at the Farmer’s Market and was immune to any idea not her own.

    But this is so much worse than I expected, even from this bunch. Why did they hire Hammond if they are frightened by his vision???

    My late father used to say, “When you’ve got problems that money can’t fix, THEN you’ve got problems.” Well, this group has problems that all the money there is won’t fix. Holy cow. God save the school children of Davis. Poor Hammond.

  47. Sorry I couldn’t be there because of 16 hour workdays leading up to the election.

    I am ashamed of the School Board. This should not be happening. I wish I thought that they had the heart to be ashamed of themselves.

    I am not surprised by reports of Lovenburg’s rude behavior. She talked at my adult daughter unceasingly one morning at the Farmer’s Market and was immune to any idea not her own.

    But this is so much worse than I expected, even from this bunch. Why did they hire Hammond if they are frightened by his vision???

    My late father used to say, “When you’ve got problems that money can’t fix, THEN you’ve got problems.” Well, this group has problems that all the money there is won’t fix. Holy cow. God save the school children of Davis. Poor Hammond.

  48. Sorry I couldn’t be there because of 16 hour workdays leading up to the election.

    I am ashamed of the School Board. This should not be happening. I wish I thought that they had the heart to be ashamed of themselves.

    I am not surprised by reports of Lovenburg’s rude behavior. She talked at my adult daughter unceasingly one morning at the Farmer’s Market and was immune to any idea not her own.

    But this is so much worse than I expected, even from this bunch. Why did they hire Hammond if they are frightened by his vision???

    My late father used to say, “When you’ve got problems that money can’t fix, THEN you’ve got problems.” Well, this group has problems that all the money there is won’t fix. Holy cow. God save the school children of Davis. Poor Hammond.

  49. it looks to e like what is being made is a political argument against the charter, not so much to win the eventual lawsuit that this decision will bring, but to scapegoat valley oak as being the reason for the pain of budget cuts when they come, and parents across the school district start screaming about it.

    not the district’s mismanagement of funds, of course, but those english learner kids at valley oak who wouldn’t just go to other schools.

    granted, these are only my uninformed impressions of the process, but it looks like a setup for a scapegoat, in a manner not unlike how the UC regents will blame prop 92 for whatever tuition hikes they do next year, should 92 pass (if it doesn’t, they’ll still raise tuition and their salaries, but they’ll have to use another excuse).

  50. it looks to e like what is being made is a political argument against the charter, not so much to win the eventual lawsuit that this decision will bring, but to scapegoat valley oak as being the reason for the pain of budget cuts when they come, and parents across the school district start screaming about it.

    not the district’s mismanagement of funds, of course, but those english learner kids at valley oak who wouldn’t just go to other schools.

    granted, these are only my uninformed impressions of the process, but it looks like a setup for a scapegoat, in a manner not unlike how the UC regents will blame prop 92 for whatever tuition hikes they do next year, should 92 pass (if it doesn’t, they’ll still raise tuition and their salaries, but they’ll have to use another excuse).

  51. it looks to e like what is being made is a political argument against the charter, not so much to win the eventual lawsuit that this decision will bring, but to scapegoat valley oak as being the reason for the pain of budget cuts when they come, and parents across the school district start screaming about it.

    not the district’s mismanagement of funds, of course, but those english learner kids at valley oak who wouldn’t just go to other schools.

    granted, these are only my uninformed impressions of the process, but it looks like a setup for a scapegoat, in a manner not unlike how the UC regents will blame prop 92 for whatever tuition hikes they do next year, should 92 pass (if it doesn’t, they’ll still raise tuition and their salaries, but they’ll have to use another excuse).

  52. it looks to e like what is being made is a political argument against the charter, not so much to win the eventual lawsuit that this decision will bring, but to scapegoat valley oak as being the reason for the pain of budget cuts when they come, and parents across the school district start screaming about it.

    not the district’s mismanagement of funds, of course, but those english learner kids at valley oak who wouldn’t just go to other schools.

    granted, these are only my uninformed impressions of the process, but it looks like a setup for a scapegoat, in a manner not unlike how the UC regents will blame prop 92 for whatever tuition hikes they do next year, should 92 pass (if it doesn’t, they’ll still raise tuition and their salaries, but they’ll have to use another excuse).

  53. Dr. Hammond,

    Thank you for your vision. You did the right thing. Sheila Allen, you did the right thing.

    To the rest of the school board members, we are disappointed.

  54. Dr. Hammond,

    Thank you for your vision. You did the right thing. Sheila Allen, you did the right thing.

    To the rest of the school board members, we are disappointed.

  55. Dr. Hammond,

    Thank you for your vision. You did the right thing. Sheila Allen, you did the right thing.

    To the rest of the school board members, we are disappointed.

  56. Dr. Hammond,

    Thank you for your vision. You did the right thing. Sheila Allen, you did the right thing.

    To the rest of the school board members, we are disappointed.

  57. Last evening left MANY in Davis ASHAMED of our Davis School board.
    Their manipulation of the process and their new Superintendent as well as their disregard for the rule of law(isn’t that what our schools are supposed to be instilling?) has done serious damage to our community. This goes far deeper than a few hundred thousand dollars.

  58. Last evening left MANY in Davis ASHAMED of our Davis School board.
    Their manipulation of the process and their new Superintendent as well as their disregard for the rule of law(isn’t that what our schools are supposed to be instilling?) has done serious damage to our community. This goes far deeper than a few hundred thousand dollars.

  59. Last evening left MANY in Davis ASHAMED of our Davis School board.
    Their manipulation of the process and their new Superintendent as well as their disregard for the rule of law(isn’t that what our schools are supposed to be instilling?) has done serious damage to our community. This goes far deeper than a few hundred thousand dollars.

  60. Last evening left MANY in Davis ASHAMED of our Davis School board.
    Their manipulation of the process and their new Superintendent as well as their disregard for the rule of law(isn’t that what our schools are supposed to be instilling?) has done serious damage to our community. This goes far deeper than a few hundred thousand dollars.

  61. Umm, so you’re going to fight to the bitter end, potentially saddle the school district with huge costs that affect EVERYONE in Davis, so you can feel all nice about your neighborhood school at Valley Oak…What is the point of this exercise exactly?

  62. Umm, so you’re going to fight to the bitter end, potentially saddle the school district with huge costs that affect EVERYONE in Davis, so you can feel all nice about your neighborhood school at Valley Oak…What is the point of this exercise exactly?

  63. Umm, so you’re going to fight to the bitter end, potentially saddle the school district with huge costs that affect EVERYONE in Davis, so you can feel all nice about your neighborhood school at Valley Oak…What is the point of this exercise exactly?

  64. Umm, so you’re going to fight to the bitter end, potentially saddle the school district with huge costs that affect EVERYONE in Davis, so you can feel all nice about your neighborhood school at Valley Oak…What is the point of this exercise exactly?

  65. As a teacher in this district for the past ten years, I’m appalled and disheartened at the actions of this school board. For most of my tenure in this district, the educational vision has not been present. Our previous Superintendent was proof of that; wanting to please and placate everyone with out looking at the sound educational practices. Finally we have a superintendent that is forward thinking, and what happens! He is disregarded by the board. What I mean is the Board is thinking they are educationally sound, free thinking, non-bias – but from the actions and words of last night, that is not the case. If I were Dr. Hammond, I would be upset at this Board for their treatment of him and the teachers in this District, and mainly at Valley Oak.

    I am tired of second-rate people (ie. School Board members who are not in the Educational profession) telling teachers and educators what is best practice and what works in teaching children. I love teaching but it is politics that will moved me out of the profession I love.

    $300,000 (the cost of lost revenue from the Charter School) is below half of the Board of Education “slush fund” of $700,000. Dr. Hammond wrote a letter last week stating this District is 4.5 million in the whole….what does this mean? It means our district will be cutting positions, classes and possible closing another school. And our School Board will be making the discussions on what stays and what doesn’t.

  66. As a teacher in this district for the past ten years, I’m appalled and disheartened at the actions of this school board. For most of my tenure in this district, the educational vision has not been present. Our previous Superintendent was proof of that; wanting to please and placate everyone with out looking at the sound educational practices. Finally we have a superintendent that is forward thinking, and what happens! He is disregarded by the board. What I mean is the Board is thinking they are educationally sound, free thinking, non-bias – but from the actions and words of last night, that is not the case. If I were Dr. Hammond, I would be upset at this Board for their treatment of him and the teachers in this District, and mainly at Valley Oak.

    I am tired of second-rate people (ie. School Board members who are not in the Educational profession) telling teachers and educators what is best practice and what works in teaching children. I love teaching but it is politics that will moved me out of the profession I love.

    $300,000 (the cost of lost revenue from the Charter School) is below half of the Board of Education “slush fund” of $700,000. Dr. Hammond wrote a letter last week stating this District is 4.5 million in the whole….what does this mean? It means our district will be cutting positions, classes and possible closing another school. And our School Board will be making the discussions on what stays and what doesn’t.

  67. As a teacher in this district for the past ten years, I’m appalled and disheartened at the actions of this school board. For most of my tenure in this district, the educational vision has not been present. Our previous Superintendent was proof of that; wanting to please and placate everyone with out looking at the sound educational practices. Finally we have a superintendent that is forward thinking, and what happens! He is disregarded by the board. What I mean is the Board is thinking they are educationally sound, free thinking, non-bias – but from the actions and words of last night, that is not the case. If I were Dr. Hammond, I would be upset at this Board for their treatment of him and the teachers in this District, and mainly at Valley Oak.

    I am tired of second-rate people (ie. School Board members who are not in the Educational profession) telling teachers and educators what is best practice and what works in teaching children. I love teaching but it is politics that will moved me out of the profession I love.

    $300,000 (the cost of lost revenue from the Charter School) is below half of the Board of Education “slush fund” of $700,000. Dr. Hammond wrote a letter last week stating this District is 4.5 million in the whole….what does this mean? It means our district will be cutting positions, classes and possible closing another school. And our School Board will be making the discussions on what stays and what doesn’t.

  68. As a teacher in this district for the past ten years, I’m appalled and disheartened at the actions of this school board. For most of my tenure in this district, the educational vision has not been present. Our previous Superintendent was proof of that; wanting to please and placate everyone with out looking at the sound educational practices. Finally we have a superintendent that is forward thinking, and what happens! He is disregarded by the board. What I mean is the Board is thinking they are educationally sound, free thinking, non-bias – but from the actions and words of last night, that is not the case. If I were Dr. Hammond, I would be upset at this Board for their treatment of him and the teachers in this District, and mainly at Valley Oak.

    I am tired of second-rate people (ie. School Board members who are not in the Educational profession) telling teachers and educators what is best practice and what works in teaching children. I love teaching but it is politics that will moved me out of the profession I love.

    $300,000 (the cost of lost revenue from the Charter School) is below half of the Board of Education “slush fund” of $700,000. Dr. Hammond wrote a letter last week stating this District is 4.5 million in the whole….what does this mean? It means our district will be cutting positions, classes and possible closing another school. And our School Board will be making the discussions on what stays and what doesn’t.

  69. $300,000? A measly $300,000 was the reason to deny the charter? The School Board spent more than that just getting rid of Dave Murphy! I know they have lost a lot of money due to mismanagement and mistakes over the past few years, but they were able to recoup the loss of funding for Montgomery. It just seems hard that VO students and parents are being punished, because that is how it feels.

    I feel sorry for James Hammond. I think I’d rather dive headfirst into a nest of rattlesnakes than deal with Susan Lovenburg. I feel for Sheila Allen, too.

    But most of all, I feel for the kids. they are big losers in this, and they don’t have any power. What a rotten shame.

  70. $300,000? A measly $300,000 was the reason to deny the charter? The School Board spent more than that just getting rid of Dave Murphy! I know they have lost a lot of money due to mismanagement and mistakes over the past few years, but they were able to recoup the loss of funding for Montgomery. It just seems hard that VO students and parents are being punished, because that is how it feels.

    I feel sorry for James Hammond. I think I’d rather dive headfirst into a nest of rattlesnakes than deal with Susan Lovenburg. I feel for Sheila Allen, too.

    But most of all, I feel for the kids. they are big losers in this, and they don’t have any power. What a rotten shame.

  71. $300,000? A measly $300,000 was the reason to deny the charter? The School Board spent more than that just getting rid of Dave Murphy! I know they have lost a lot of money due to mismanagement and mistakes over the past few years, but they were able to recoup the loss of funding for Montgomery. It just seems hard that VO students and parents are being punished, because that is how it feels.

    I feel sorry for James Hammond. I think I’d rather dive headfirst into a nest of rattlesnakes than deal with Susan Lovenburg. I feel for Sheila Allen, too.

    But most of all, I feel for the kids. they are big losers in this, and they don’t have any power. What a rotten shame.

  72. $300,000? A measly $300,000 was the reason to deny the charter? The School Board spent more than that just getting rid of Dave Murphy! I know they have lost a lot of money due to mismanagement and mistakes over the past few years, but they were able to recoup the loss of funding for Montgomery. It just seems hard that VO students and parents are being punished, because that is how it feels.

    I feel sorry for James Hammond. I think I’d rather dive headfirst into a nest of rattlesnakes than deal with Susan Lovenburg. I feel for Sheila Allen, too.

    But most of all, I feel for the kids. they are big losers in this, and they don’t have any power. What a rotten shame.

  73. Sheila Allen “gets it.” Superintendent Hammond “gets it”. Amanda Lara-Lopez spelled it out. Isn’t it sad that Bill Storm’s “brontosaurus” seems so invisible to members of the school board? Or maybe they see but just don’t care. This whole controversy is a mere continuation of the culture gap in Davis that is seen with the battle to recognize subtle, subconscious racism in the classroom, rude treatment of dark-skinned residents by police and the priorities of the school board in supporting expensive programs for “achievers” but not those who “don’t excel.” A whole sector denies these problems exist and then turns their attention to factors that they care more about—like the budget concerns and “facts.” Yes, budget is important. So, too, are the intangibles like displaying a willingness to help those who need it most and REALLY care about the needs of others. There are many wonderful people in Davis who understand these intangibles and exemplify the values of MLK, who we just celebrated this week. Unfortunately, there are too few who run for school board. We just get ones who open schools we don’t need and buy out contracts for superintendents they once raved about and whose every recommendation they accepted.
    I hope that the Charter School supporters don’t get discouraged. They are doing a wonderful thing and only good can come from their efforts. This whole discussion brings forth the dark side of Davis that needs to be discussed. Obviously, the school climate committee that David Murphy reluctantly set up hasn’t been able to open enough eyes. Someday the brontosaurus will be made so obvious that we can invite him to the table and figure out how to make him go away.

  74. Sheila Allen “gets it.” Superintendent Hammond “gets it”. Amanda Lara-Lopez spelled it out. Isn’t it sad that Bill Storm’s “brontosaurus” seems so invisible to members of the school board? Or maybe they see but just don’t care. This whole controversy is a mere continuation of the culture gap in Davis that is seen with the battle to recognize subtle, subconscious racism in the classroom, rude treatment of dark-skinned residents by police and the priorities of the school board in supporting expensive programs for “achievers” but not those who “don’t excel.” A whole sector denies these problems exist and then turns their attention to factors that they care more about—like the budget concerns and “facts.” Yes, budget is important. So, too, are the intangibles like displaying a willingness to help those who need it most and REALLY care about the needs of others. There are many wonderful people in Davis who understand these intangibles and exemplify the values of MLK, who we just celebrated this week. Unfortunately, there are too few who run for school board. We just get ones who open schools we don’t need and buy out contracts for superintendents they once raved about and whose every recommendation they accepted.
    I hope that the Charter School supporters don’t get discouraged. They are doing a wonderful thing and only good can come from their efforts. This whole discussion brings forth the dark side of Davis that needs to be discussed. Obviously, the school climate committee that David Murphy reluctantly set up hasn’t been able to open enough eyes. Someday the brontosaurus will be made so obvious that we can invite him to the table and figure out how to make him go away.

  75. Sheila Allen “gets it.” Superintendent Hammond “gets it”. Amanda Lara-Lopez spelled it out. Isn’t it sad that Bill Storm’s “brontosaurus” seems so invisible to members of the school board? Or maybe they see but just don’t care. This whole controversy is a mere continuation of the culture gap in Davis that is seen with the battle to recognize subtle, subconscious racism in the classroom, rude treatment of dark-skinned residents by police and the priorities of the school board in supporting expensive programs for “achievers” but not those who “don’t excel.” A whole sector denies these problems exist and then turns their attention to factors that they care more about—like the budget concerns and “facts.” Yes, budget is important. So, too, are the intangibles like displaying a willingness to help those who need it most and REALLY care about the needs of others. There are many wonderful people in Davis who understand these intangibles and exemplify the values of MLK, who we just celebrated this week. Unfortunately, there are too few who run for school board. We just get ones who open schools we don’t need and buy out contracts for superintendents they once raved about and whose every recommendation they accepted.
    I hope that the Charter School supporters don’t get discouraged. They are doing a wonderful thing and only good can come from their efforts. This whole discussion brings forth the dark side of Davis that needs to be discussed. Obviously, the school climate committee that David Murphy reluctantly set up hasn’t been able to open enough eyes. Someday the brontosaurus will be made so obvious that we can invite him to the table and figure out how to make him go away.

  76. Sheila Allen “gets it.” Superintendent Hammond “gets it”. Amanda Lara-Lopez spelled it out. Isn’t it sad that Bill Storm’s “brontosaurus” seems so invisible to members of the school board? Or maybe they see but just don’t care. This whole controversy is a mere continuation of the culture gap in Davis that is seen with the battle to recognize subtle, subconscious racism in the classroom, rude treatment of dark-skinned residents by police and the priorities of the school board in supporting expensive programs for “achievers” but not those who “don’t excel.” A whole sector denies these problems exist and then turns their attention to factors that they care more about—like the budget concerns and “facts.” Yes, budget is important. So, too, are the intangibles like displaying a willingness to help those who need it most and REALLY care about the needs of others. There are many wonderful people in Davis who understand these intangibles and exemplify the values of MLK, who we just celebrated this week. Unfortunately, there are too few who run for school board. We just get ones who open schools we don’t need and buy out contracts for superintendents they once raved about and whose every recommendation they accepted.
    I hope that the Charter School supporters don’t get discouraged. They are doing a wonderful thing and only good can come from their efforts. This whole discussion brings forth the dark side of Davis that needs to be discussed. Obviously, the school climate committee that David Murphy reluctantly set up hasn’t been able to open enough eyes. Someday the brontosaurus will be made so obvious that we can invite him to the table and figure out how to make him go away.

  77. The no-faith as opposed to good-faith negotiations set the charter time-line back only about one month. A detailed history of the School Board’s strategy to stall this charter to death should be included with their appeal and I would hope and expect that this would bring about a very expedited fast-track decision to discourage other school boards from attempting this method of circumventing State law.

  78. The no-faith as opposed to good-faith negotiations set the charter time-line back only about one month. A detailed history of the School Board’s strategy to stall this charter to death should be included with their appeal and I would hope and expect that this would bring about a very expedited fast-track decision to discourage other school boards from attempting this method of circumventing State law.

  79. The no-faith as opposed to good-faith negotiations set the charter time-line back only about one month. A detailed history of the School Board’s strategy to stall this charter to death should be included with their appeal and I would hope and expect that this would bring about a very expedited fast-track decision to discourage other school boards from attempting this method of circumventing State law.

  80. The no-faith as opposed to good-faith negotiations set the charter time-line back only about one month. A detailed history of the School Board’s strategy to stall this charter to death should be included with their appeal and I would hope and expect that this would bring about a very expedited fast-track decision to discourage other school boards from attempting this method of circumventing State law.

  81. “The district will lose money by allowing a charter. But don’t they also reduce their expenses by not having to handle those students? “

    The money lost in ADA is partly offset by money gained in reduced expenses, $300K is the difference between the two.

  82. “The district will lose money by allowing a charter. But don’t they also reduce their expenses by not having to handle those students? “

    The money lost in ADA is partly offset by money gained in reduced expenses, $300K is the difference between the two.

  83. “The district will lose money by allowing a charter. But don’t they also reduce their expenses by not having to handle those students? “

    The money lost in ADA is partly offset by money gained in reduced expenses, $300K is the difference between the two.

  84. “The district will lose money by allowing a charter. But don’t they also reduce their expenses by not having to handle those students? “

    The money lost in ADA is partly offset by money gained in reduced expenses, $300K is the difference between the two.

  85. Fascinating that the trustees would have the Superintendent negotiate only to vote down the agreement last time this issue came up I wrote that the trustees would try to stall to run out the clock. Is there another explanation? Maybe their deficit but they knew how bad it is going to be after their last meeting so why persist at that point? The biggest loser politically is Hammond, to be set up and undermined like this is shocking. I can’t think of any precedent so bloody. Why don’t they just buy out his contract and put Murphy back to work.

    Ron Glick

  86. Fascinating that the trustees would have the Superintendent negotiate only to vote down the agreement last time this issue came up I wrote that the trustees would try to stall to run out the clock. Is there another explanation? Maybe their deficit but they knew how bad it is going to be after their last meeting so why persist at that point? The biggest loser politically is Hammond, to be set up and undermined like this is shocking. I can’t think of any precedent so bloody. Why don’t they just buy out his contract and put Murphy back to work.

    Ron Glick

  87. Fascinating that the trustees would have the Superintendent negotiate only to vote down the agreement last time this issue came up I wrote that the trustees would try to stall to run out the clock. Is there another explanation? Maybe their deficit but they knew how bad it is going to be after their last meeting so why persist at that point? The biggest loser politically is Hammond, to be set up and undermined like this is shocking. I can’t think of any precedent so bloody. Why don’t they just buy out his contract and put Murphy back to work.

    Ron Glick

  88. Fascinating that the trustees would have the Superintendent negotiate only to vote down the agreement last time this issue came up I wrote that the trustees would try to stall to run out the clock. Is there another explanation? Maybe their deficit but they knew how bad it is going to be after their last meeting so why persist at that point? The biggest loser politically is Hammond, to be set up and undermined like this is shocking. I can’t think of any precedent so bloody. Why don’t they just buy out his contract and put Murphy back to work.

    Ron Glick

  89. You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.

  90. You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.

  91. You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.

  92. You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.

  93. Why has no one pointed out that Lovenburg and Harris are the Saylor, Souza, Asmundson political machine members, setting themselves up to take over the school board and city council for years to come?

    How come no one has pointed out the larger implications for Davis?

    How come no one has pointed out that they have managed to do this because no viable progressive people will step up to the plate and run for school board and city council?

    Viable (by viable I mean people who don’t start out with unsurmountable negatives) progressive candidates could easily win. I mean EASILY.

    Unless viable progressive candidates will step forward, no one has a right to complain.

  94. Why has no one pointed out that Lovenburg and Harris are the Saylor, Souza, Asmundson political machine members, setting themselves up to take over the school board and city council for years to come?

    How come no one has pointed out the larger implications for Davis?

    How come no one has pointed out that they have managed to do this because no viable progressive people will step up to the plate and run for school board and city council?

    Viable (by viable I mean people who don’t start out with unsurmountable negatives) progressive candidates could easily win. I mean EASILY.

    Unless viable progressive candidates will step forward, no one has a right to complain.

  95. Why has no one pointed out that Lovenburg and Harris are the Saylor, Souza, Asmundson political machine members, setting themselves up to take over the school board and city council for years to come?

    How come no one has pointed out the larger implications for Davis?

    How come no one has pointed out that they have managed to do this because no viable progressive people will step up to the plate and run for school board and city council?

    Viable (by viable I mean people who don’t start out with unsurmountable negatives) progressive candidates could easily win. I mean EASILY.

    Unless viable progressive candidates will step forward, no one has a right to complain.

  96. Why has no one pointed out that Lovenburg and Harris are the Saylor, Souza, Asmundson political machine members, setting themselves up to take over the school board and city council for years to come?

    How come no one has pointed out the larger implications for Davis?

    How come no one has pointed out that they have managed to do this because no viable progressive people will step up to the plate and run for school board and city council?

    Viable (by viable I mean people who don’t start out with unsurmountable negatives) progressive candidates could easily win. I mean EASILY.

    Unless viable progressive candidates will step forward, no one has a right to complain.

  97. I am a mother of a child that goes to Valley Oak and we walk every day no matter what the weather and now the DJUSD says North Davis is where we should go but since we have no vehicle and can not afford to catch the bus every day, my child has been left no alternative by the school board except to be put into the independent study program which will not be the best for her but it seems the school board cares more about the budget and is not thinking about the impact this has on the people of this neighborhood!! I thank you Mr. Hammond and Sheila Allen for your concern and just think that the rest of the board needs to come to the school and talk to some of the kids who go there and are adversely affected by this decision!! Last year around 50 kids marched from Valley Oak to City Hall to keep their school open and you did not listen then to them and you still do not listen to the children!!

  98. I am a mother of a child that goes to Valley Oak and we walk every day no matter what the weather and now the DJUSD says North Davis is where we should go but since we have no vehicle and can not afford to catch the bus every day, my child has been left no alternative by the school board except to be put into the independent study program which will not be the best for her but it seems the school board cares more about the budget and is not thinking about the impact this has on the people of this neighborhood!! I thank you Mr. Hammond and Sheila Allen for your concern and just think that the rest of the board needs to come to the school and talk to some of the kids who go there and are adversely affected by this decision!! Last year around 50 kids marched from Valley Oak to City Hall to keep their school open and you did not listen then to them and you still do not listen to the children!!

  99. I am a mother of a child that goes to Valley Oak and we walk every day no matter what the weather and now the DJUSD says North Davis is where we should go but since we have no vehicle and can not afford to catch the bus every day, my child has been left no alternative by the school board except to be put into the independent study program which will not be the best for her but it seems the school board cares more about the budget and is not thinking about the impact this has on the people of this neighborhood!! I thank you Mr. Hammond and Sheila Allen for your concern and just think that the rest of the board needs to come to the school and talk to some of the kids who go there and are adversely affected by this decision!! Last year around 50 kids marched from Valley Oak to City Hall to keep their school open and you did not listen then to them and you still do not listen to the children!!

  100. I am a mother of a child that goes to Valley Oak and we walk every day no matter what the weather and now the DJUSD says North Davis is where we should go but since we have no vehicle and can not afford to catch the bus every day, my child has been left no alternative by the school board except to be put into the independent study program which will not be the best for her but it seems the school board cares more about the budget and is not thinking about the impact this has on the people of this neighborhood!! I thank you Mr. Hammond and Sheila Allen for your concern and just think that the rest of the board needs to come to the school and talk to some of the kids who go there and are adversely affected by this decision!! Last year around 50 kids marched from Valley Oak to City Hall to keep their school open and you did not listen then to them and you still do not listen to the children!!

  101. This is a catastrophe for the DJUSD, alienating families and students who are most committed to its mission. Wu Ming nails it, board members are more interested in constructing an explanation for fiscal pain than acting in the best interests of the district’s students.

    The consequences of this decision will reverberate in Davis for years and years to come, and may be remembered as the moment that the district lost the unconditional support of Davis residents. The bad faith associated with a new board tossing out the sincere efforts of the superintendent to avoid precisely this outcome will be hard to overcome.

    I am amazed that the Board could be this misguided, this arrogant, to assume that it can do this without severely damaging the district. Incredibly sad.

    –Richard Estes

  102. This is a catastrophe for the DJUSD, alienating families and students who are most committed to its mission. Wu Ming nails it, board members are more interested in constructing an explanation for fiscal pain than acting in the best interests of the district’s students.

    The consequences of this decision will reverberate in Davis for years and years to come, and may be remembered as the moment that the district lost the unconditional support of Davis residents. The bad faith associated with a new board tossing out the sincere efforts of the superintendent to avoid precisely this outcome will be hard to overcome.

    I am amazed that the Board could be this misguided, this arrogant, to assume that it can do this without severely damaging the district. Incredibly sad.

    –Richard Estes

  103. This is a catastrophe for the DJUSD, alienating families and students who are most committed to its mission. Wu Ming nails it, board members are more interested in constructing an explanation for fiscal pain than acting in the best interests of the district’s students.

    The consequences of this decision will reverberate in Davis for years and years to come, and may be remembered as the moment that the district lost the unconditional support of Davis residents. The bad faith associated with a new board tossing out the sincere efforts of the superintendent to avoid precisely this outcome will be hard to overcome.

    I am amazed that the Board could be this misguided, this arrogant, to assume that it can do this without severely damaging the district. Incredibly sad.

    –Richard Estes

  104. This is a catastrophe for the DJUSD, alienating families and students who are most committed to its mission. Wu Ming nails it, board members are more interested in constructing an explanation for fiscal pain than acting in the best interests of the district’s students.

    The consequences of this decision will reverberate in Davis for years and years to come, and may be remembered as the moment that the district lost the unconditional support of Davis residents. The bad faith associated with a new board tossing out the sincere efforts of the superintendent to avoid precisely this outcome will be hard to overcome.

    I am amazed that the Board could be this misguided, this arrogant, to assume that it can do this without severely damaging the district. Incredibly sad.

    –Richard Estes

  105. It is important that Valley Oak supporters never forget whom opposed their school on election time.

    Mr. Harris, you don’t have an assembly seat yet, not by a long shot.

  106. It is important that Valley Oak supporters never forget whom opposed their school on election time.

    Mr. Harris, you don’t have an assembly seat yet, not by a long shot.

  107. It is important that Valley Oak supporters never forget whom opposed their school on election time.

    Mr. Harris, you don’t have an assembly seat yet, not by a long shot.

  108. It is important that Valley Oak supporters never forget whom opposed their school on election time.

    Mr. Harris, you don’t have an assembly seat yet, not by a long shot.

  109. Hammond was instructed by the School
    Board to negotiate in good faith to resolve the legal issues that were used to deny the charter application.
    He did so and recommended that the application be approved as, in his expert opinion as Superintendent,the issues that were used for denial had been adequately resolved. It was perfectly reasonable for him to assume that the 4 Board members would exhibit a modicum of honesty and integrity. . Instead, they rejected the application for a reason that is clearly forbidden by statute. I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… didn’t bother to get a legal opinion all the time that your Superintendent was negotiating in ‘good-faith” upon your instructions?

  110. Hammond was instructed by the School
    Board to negotiate in good faith to resolve the legal issues that were used to deny the charter application.
    He did so and recommended that the application be approved as, in his expert opinion as Superintendent,the issues that were used for denial had been adequately resolved. It was perfectly reasonable for him to assume that the 4 Board members would exhibit a modicum of honesty and integrity. . Instead, they rejected the application for a reason that is clearly forbidden by statute. I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… didn’t bother to get a legal opinion all the time that your Superintendent was negotiating in ‘good-faith” upon your instructions?

  111. Hammond was instructed by the School
    Board to negotiate in good faith to resolve the legal issues that were used to deny the charter application.
    He did so and recommended that the application be approved as, in his expert opinion as Superintendent,the issues that were used for denial had been adequately resolved. It was perfectly reasonable for him to assume that the 4 Board members would exhibit a modicum of honesty and integrity. . Instead, they rejected the application for a reason that is clearly forbidden by statute. I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… didn’t bother to get a legal opinion all the time that your Superintendent was negotiating in ‘good-faith” upon your instructions?

  112. Hammond was instructed by the School
    Board to negotiate in good faith to resolve the legal issues that were used to deny the charter application.
    He did so and recommended that the application be approved as, in his expert opinion as Superintendent,the issues that were used for denial had been adequately resolved. It was perfectly reasonable for him to assume that the 4 Board members would exhibit a modicum of honesty and integrity. . Instead, they rejected the application for a reason that is clearly forbidden by statute. I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… didn’t bother to get a legal opinion all the time that your Superintendent was negotiating in ‘good-faith” upon your instructions?

  113. Taylor will surely understand why I need to consult with my lawyer as well to see if I need to obey the law that says that I must pay a yearly Davis educational parcel tax.

  114. Taylor will surely understand why I need to consult with my lawyer as well to see if I need to obey the law that says that I must pay a yearly Davis educational parcel tax.

  115. Taylor will surely understand why I need to consult with my lawyer as well to see if I need to obey the law that says that I must pay a yearly Davis educational parcel tax.

  116. Taylor will surely understand why I need to consult with my lawyer as well to see if I need to obey the law that says that I must pay a yearly Davis educational parcel tax.

  117. The Davis Spanish Immersion program met with a similar response from the District 25 years ago. The Spanish Immersion PTA effectively ran the program for the first few years and WOULD NOT BE DENIED when treated like a pariah by the District. Today, the District proudly takes credit for the remarkable and thriving Davis Spanish Immersion program.

  118. The Davis Spanish Immersion program met with a similar response from the District 25 years ago. The Spanish Immersion PTA effectively ran the program for the first few years and WOULD NOT BE DENIED when treated like a pariah by the District. Today, the District proudly takes credit for the remarkable and thriving Davis Spanish Immersion program.

  119. The Davis Spanish Immersion program met with a similar response from the District 25 years ago. The Spanish Immersion PTA effectively ran the program for the first few years and WOULD NOT BE DENIED when treated like a pariah by the District. Today, the District proudly takes credit for the remarkable and thriving Davis Spanish Immersion program.

  120. The Davis Spanish Immersion program met with a similar response from the District 25 years ago. The Spanish Immersion PTA effectively ran the program for the first few years and WOULD NOT BE DENIED when treated like a pariah by the District. Today, the District proudly takes credit for the remarkable and thriving Davis Spanish Immersion program.

  121. VANGUARD: “If the county accepts the appeal, they become the authorizing body. Not mentioned at this meeting was the cost to the district should that occur which according to some estimates may run upwards of $1 million rather than $300,000 as current estimates suggest.”

    David,

    Can you explain that? Why would the cost rise to $1 million?

  122. VANGUARD: “If the county accepts the appeal, they become the authorizing body. Not mentioned at this meeting was the cost to the district should that occur which according to some estimates may run upwards of $1 million rather than $300,000 as current estimates suggest.”

    David,

    Can you explain that? Why would the cost rise to $1 million?

  123. VANGUARD: “If the county accepts the appeal, they become the authorizing body. Not mentioned at this meeting was the cost to the district should that occur which according to some estimates may run upwards of $1 million rather than $300,000 as current estimates suggest.”

    David,

    Can you explain that? Why would the cost rise to $1 million?

  124. VANGUARD: “If the county accepts the appeal, they become the authorizing body. Not mentioned at this meeting was the cost to the district should that occur which according to some estimates may run upwards of $1 million rather than $300,000 as current estimates suggest.”

    David,

    Can you explain that? Why would the cost rise to $1 million?

  125. The school board has failed for a long time to figure out how it could reduce the per capita administrative and overhead costs of running all of the district’s schools. They allowed the costs (of salaries and benefits) per child to go up and up over a 20 year period. No one all that time, with all that profligacy, saw that it was the decisions to overpay the onsite administrators and staff which was the real failure of fiduciary responsibility. If they had simply been tighter fisted along the way, they never would have faced the decision to close Valley Oak.

    So when faced with the Valley Oak Charter School proposal, with another opportunity to save on administrative and overhead costs, they took the same course: business as usual.

    It seems to me too convenient by half to say they are rejecting VOC because of fiduciary responsibility. They have not been fiscally prudent for 20 years. It’s too late to play this card.

  126. The school board has failed for a long time to figure out how it could reduce the per capita administrative and overhead costs of running all of the district’s schools. They allowed the costs (of salaries and benefits) per child to go up and up over a 20 year period. No one all that time, with all that profligacy, saw that it was the decisions to overpay the onsite administrators and staff which was the real failure of fiduciary responsibility. If they had simply been tighter fisted along the way, they never would have faced the decision to close Valley Oak.

    So when faced with the Valley Oak Charter School proposal, with another opportunity to save on administrative and overhead costs, they took the same course: business as usual.

    It seems to me too convenient by half to say they are rejecting VOC because of fiduciary responsibility. They have not been fiscally prudent for 20 years. It’s too late to play this card.

  127. The school board has failed for a long time to figure out how it could reduce the per capita administrative and overhead costs of running all of the district’s schools. They allowed the costs (of salaries and benefits) per child to go up and up over a 20 year period. No one all that time, with all that profligacy, saw that it was the decisions to overpay the onsite administrators and staff which was the real failure of fiduciary responsibility. If they had simply been tighter fisted along the way, they never would have faced the decision to close Valley Oak.

    So when faced with the Valley Oak Charter School proposal, with another opportunity to save on administrative and overhead costs, they took the same course: business as usual.

    It seems to me too convenient by half to say they are rejecting VOC because of fiduciary responsibility. They have not been fiscally prudent for 20 years. It’s too late to play this card.

  128. The school board has failed for a long time to figure out how it could reduce the per capita administrative and overhead costs of running all of the district’s schools. They allowed the costs (of salaries and benefits) per child to go up and up over a 20 year period. No one all that time, with all that profligacy, saw that it was the decisions to overpay the onsite administrators and staff which was the real failure of fiduciary responsibility. If they had simply been tighter fisted along the way, they never would have faced the decision to close Valley Oak.

    So when faced with the Valley Oak Charter School proposal, with another opportunity to save on administrative and overhead costs, they took the same course: business as usual.

    It seems to me too convenient by half to say they are rejecting VOC because of fiduciary responsibility. They have not been fiscally prudent for 20 years. It’s too late to play this card.

  129. All services rendered to the Charter by the authorizing agency are for fees. There’s the initial 3% of total ADA supervisory fee, the fees for accounting service, custodial, facilities/maintenance etc…Aside form the mandated by law 3% ADA fee, the other services fees are negotiable.

  130. All services rendered to the Charter by the authorizing agency are for fees. There’s the initial 3% of total ADA supervisory fee, the fees for accounting service, custodial, facilities/maintenance etc…Aside form the mandated by law 3% ADA fee, the other services fees are negotiable.

  131. All services rendered to the Charter by the authorizing agency are for fees. There’s the initial 3% of total ADA supervisory fee, the fees for accounting service, custodial, facilities/maintenance etc…Aside form the mandated by law 3% ADA fee, the other services fees are negotiable.

  132. All services rendered to the Charter by the authorizing agency are for fees. There’s the initial 3% of total ADA supervisory fee, the fees for accounting service, custodial, facilities/maintenance etc…Aside form the mandated by law 3% ADA fee, the other services fees are negotiable.

  133. Rich: we are in complete agreement. One thing that Bruce Colby told me is that since about 2004, the district has been eating away at its reserve. That reserve is now down to $1 million. That was done by using one-time money to pay for on-going projects by the previous CBO. Imagine if we had not eaten into that reserve, we could probably ride out the tough times and keep some of the programs open. I’m not completely unsympathetic towards the current board on this point, none of them was on the board before the end of the year 2005. However, I have problems with fiscal prudence used as the reason to cut programs for disadvantaged kids.

  134. Rich: we are in complete agreement. One thing that Bruce Colby told me is that since about 2004, the district has been eating away at its reserve. That reserve is now down to $1 million. That was done by using one-time money to pay for on-going projects by the previous CBO. Imagine if we had not eaten into that reserve, we could probably ride out the tough times and keep some of the programs open. I’m not completely unsympathetic towards the current board on this point, none of them was on the board before the end of the year 2005. However, I have problems with fiscal prudence used as the reason to cut programs for disadvantaged kids.

  135. Rich: we are in complete agreement. One thing that Bruce Colby told me is that since about 2004, the district has been eating away at its reserve. That reserve is now down to $1 million. That was done by using one-time money to pay for on-going projects by the previous CBO. Imagine if we had not eaten into that reserve, we could probably ride out the tough times and keep some of the programs open. I’m not completely unsympathetic towards the current board on this point, none of them was on the board before the end of the year 2005. However, I have problems with fiscal prudence used as the reason to cut programs for disadvantaged kids.

  136. Rich: we are in complete agreement. One thing that Bruce Colby told me is that since about 2004, the district has been eating away at its reserve. That reserve is now down to $1 million. That was done by using one-time money to pay for on-going projects by the previous CBO. Imagine if we had not eaten into that reserve, we could probably ride out the tough times and keep some of the programs open. I’m not completely unsympathetic towards the current board on this point, none of them was on the board before the end of the year 2005. However, I have problems with fiscal prudence used as the reason to cut programs for disadvantaged kids.

  137. Why feel sorry for the trustees? They took the path of least resistance by going after the poorest people available. They are bullies, hypocrites, and cowards. Sandbagging the new Superintendent makes them hypocrites, going after the poorest people makes them cowards and treating the people the way you reported makes them bullies. I don’t feel sorry for them. I feel contempt.

  138. Why feel sorry for the trustees? They took the path of least resistance by going after the poorest people available. They are bullies, hypocrites, and cowards. Sandbagging the new Superintendent makes them hypocrites, going after the poorest people makes them cowards and treating the people the way you reported makes them bullies. I don’t feel sorry for them. I feel contempt.

  139. Why feel sorry for the trustees? They took the path of least resistance by going after the poorest people available. They are bullies, hypocrites, and cowards. Sandbagging the new Superintendent makes them hypocrites, going after the poorest people makes them cowards and treating the people the way you reported makes them bullies. I don’t feel sorry for them. I feel contempt.

  140. Why feel sorry for the trustees? They took the path of least resistance by going after the poorest people available. They are bullies, hypocrites, and cowards. Sandbagging the new Superintendent makes them hypocrites, going after the poorest people makes them cowards and treating the people the way you reported makes them bullies. I don’t feel sorry for them. I feel contempt.

  141. In my opinion, the board members that voted against Valley Oak Charter School did so for one reason – because to do otherwise would have been to admit they made a mistake when they opted to close this neighborhood school in the first place. I was not impressed by Gina D’s handwringing, nor Tim T’s attempts to stall the process as cover to protect his own sullied political reputation. Lovenberg’s nasty demeanor was disgusting, an insult to civilized citizens. Richard Harris is only interested in saving the elementary school in HIS NEIGHBORHOOD – isn’t that Marguerite Montgomery?

    Frankly, I hope the School Board votes to close another elementary school. That way another elementary school can opt to go charter too. We need to wrest control of our Davis schools away from the irresponsible and arrogant School Board and District.

    Fiscal crisis my foot! As Shiela Allen pointed out, why three vice-principals for Davis High?; why DaVinci High School so Pam Mari could get a supervisorial position?; why pay $240,000 for a supt. who was clearly inadequate and will not be working?, etc, ad nauseum?

    Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD because that is what the “law requires”, even if books sit unused in a closet somewhere? What law says DJUSD can’t LOAN the books? The hostility and antagonism of the School Board last night was clearly evident.

    No, the fix was in from the get go. I don’t believe for one minute the four members who voted against the charter had not already made up their minds. Despite their claims of fiscal worries – an invalid reason to deny the charter – they (school board and school district) don’t seem to have any problem wasting money left and right when it suits their purpose.

    Color me not only disgusted, but infuriated, and more determined that the charter school succeed. I plan to sign up and do whatever I can to make the VO Charter School a reality. Come on and join in. The more the merrier! I want to send a clear message to the School Board and District that it is NOT GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL.

  142. In my opinion, the board members that voted against Valley Oak Charter School did so for one reason – because to do otherwise would have been to admit they made a mistake when they opted to close this neighborhood school in the first place. I was not impressed by Gina D’s handwringing, nor Tim T’s attempts to stall the process as cover to protect his own sullied political reputation. Lovenberg’s nasty demeanor was disgusting, an insult to civilized citizens. Richard Harris is only interested in saving the elementary school in HIS NEIGHBORHOOD – isn’t that Marguerite Montgomery?

    Frankly, I hope the School Board votes to close another elementary school. That way another elementary school can opt to go charter too. We need to wrest control of our Davis schools away from the irresponsible and arrogant School Board and District.

    Fiscal crisis my foot! As Shiela Allen pointed out, why three vice-principals for Davis High?; why DaVinci High School so Pam Mari could get a supervisorial position?; why pay $240,000 for a supt. who was clearly inadequate and will not be working?, etc, ad nauseum?

    Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD because that is what the “law requires”, even if books sit unused in a closet somewhere? What law says DJUSD can’t LOAN the books? The hostility and antagonism of the School Board last night was clearly evident.

    No, the fix was in from the get go. I don’t believe for one minute the four members who voted against the charter had not already made up their minds. Despite their claims of fiscal worries – an invalid reason to deny the charter – they (school board and school district) don’t seem to have any problem wasting money left and right when it suits their purpose.

    Color me not only disgusted, but infuriated, and more determined that the charter school succeed. I plan to sign up and do whatever I can to make the VO Charter School a reality. Come on and join in. The more the merrier! I want to send a clear message to the School Board and District that it is NOT GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL.

  143. In my opinion, the board members that voted against Valley Oak Charter School did so for one reason – because to do otherwise would have been to admit they made a mistake when they opted to close this neighborhood school in the first place. I was not impressed by Gina D’s handwringing, nor Tim T’s attempts to stall the process as cover to protect his own sullied political reputation. Lovenberg’s nasty demeanor was disgusting, an insult to civilized citizens. Richard Harris is only interested in saving the elementary school in HIS NEIGHBORHOOD – isn’t that Marguerite Montgomery?

    Frankly, I hope the School Board votes to close another elementary school. That way another elementary school can opt to go charter too. We need to wrest control of our Davis schools away from the irresponsible and arrogant School Board and District.

    Fiscal crisis my foot! As Shiela Allen pointed out, why three vice-principals for Davis High?; why DaVinci High School so Pam Mari could get a supervisorial position?; why pay $240,000 for a supt. who was clearly inadequate and will not be working?, etc, ad nauseum?

    Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD because that is what the “law requires”, even if books sit unused in a closet somewhere? What law says DJUSD can’t LOAN the books? The hostility and antagonism of the School Board last night was clearly evident.

    No, the fix was in from the get go. I don’t believe for one minute the four members who voted against the charter had not already made up their minds. Despite their claims of fiscal worries – an invalid reason to deny the charter – they (school board and school district) don’t seem to have any problem wasting money left and right when it suits their purpose.

    Color me not only disgusted, but infuriated, and more determined that the charter school succeed. I plan to sign up and do whatever I can to make the VO Charter School a reality. Come on and join in. The more the merrier! I want to send a clear message to the School Board and District that it is NOT GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL.

  144. In my opinion, the board members that voted against Valley Oak Charter School did so for one reason – because to do otherwise would have been to admit they made a mistake when they opted to close this neighborhood school in the first place. I was not impressed by Gina D’s handwringing, nor Tim T’s attempts to stall the process as cover to protect his own sullied political reputation. Lovenberg’s nasty demeanor was disgusting, an insult to civilized citizens. Richard Harris is only interested in saving the elementary school in HIS NEIGHBORHOOD – isn’t that Marguerite Montgomery?

    Frankly, I hope the School Board votes to close another elementary school. That way another elementary school can opt to go charter too. We need to wrest control of our Davis schools away from the irresponsible and arrogant School Board and District.

    Fiscal crisis my foot! As Shiela Allen pointed out, why three vice-principals for Davis High?; why DaVinci High School so Pam Mari could get a supervisorial position?; why pay $240,000 for a supt. who was clearly inadequate and will not be working?, etc, ad nauseum?

    Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD because that is what the “law requires”, even if books sit unused in a closet somewhere? What law says DJUSD can’t LOAN the books? The hostility and antagonism of the School Board last night was clearly evident.

    No, the fix was in from the get go. I don’t believe for one minute the four members who voted against the charter had not already made up their minds. Despite their claims of fiscal worries – an invalid reason to deny the charter – they (school board and school district) don’t seem to have any problem wasting money left and right when it suits their purpose.

    Color me not only disgusted, but infuriated, and more determined that the charter school succeed. I plan to sign up and do whatever I can to make the VO Charter School a reality. Come on and join in. The more the merrier! I want to send a clear message to the School Board and District that it is NOT GOING TO BE BUSINESS AS USUAL.

  145. “Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD….”

    We ran into the same crap in the early days of the Spanish Immersion program. The PTA had to purchase books for the classrooms.

  146. “Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD….”

    We ran into the same crap in the early days of the Spanish Immersion program. The PTA had to purchase books for the classrooms.

  147. “Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD….”

    We ran into the same crap in the early days of the Spanish Immersion program. The PTA had to purchase books for the classrooms.

  148. “Did you hear the business about the charter school not being allowed to use books of the DJUSD….”

    We ran into the same crap in the early days of the Spanish Immersion program. The PTA had to purchase books for the classrooms.

  149. I watched the replay tonight. I have to be honest, the first I’ve seen the new board in action. Yikes, we’ve gone from okay to worse. I forsee a regression on progress made on the “social equality” front, now that the language has been adopted by the automatons. Good luck with them, Sheila Allen and James Hammond.

  150. I watched the replay tonight. I have to be honest, the first I’ve seen the new board in action. Yikes, we’ve gone from okay to worse. I forsee a regression on progress made on the “social equality” front, now that the language has been adopted by the automatons. Good luck with them, Sheila Allen and James Hammond.

  151. I watched the replay tonight. I have to be honest, the first I’ve seen the new board in action. Yikes, we’ve gone from okay to worse. I forsee a regression on progress made on the “social equality” front, now that the language has been adopted by the automatons. Good luck with them, Sheila Allen and James Hammond.

  152. I watched the replay tonight. I have to be honest, the first I’ve seen the new board in action. Yikes, we’ve gone from okay to worse. I forsee a regression on progress made on the “social equality” front, now that the language has been adopted by the automatons. Good luck with them, Sheila Allen and James Hammond.

  153. I could not agree more with the comment that Dr. Hammond was “sandbagged” by the Board — as were the VO charter proponents. At the last meeting re the VO charter, the Board approved having Dr. Hammond and his staff negotiate with the charter proponents to try to work out the perceived problems with the charter. There was an express promise that the negotiations were to be in good faith, and not merely a delay tactic. Four members of the School Board then denied the charter proposal for reasons that had nothing to do with the negotiated “deficiencies” in the original charter proposal.

    Encouraging your Superintendent and his upper-level staff to spend countless hours in analysis and negotiations that are a pointless waste of time is the ultimate failure to meet fiduciary responsibilities. I would love to see someone calculate the cost to the district of the time these high level (and well compensated) administrators spent on this analysis and these negotiations since the last Board meeting regarding the Charter.

    This incident will make it very difficult for the Board and the Superintendent/Staff to work together. What kind of trust will they have in each other? Aside from the offensiveness towards the VO community, this has to be the most offensive action I have seen any of our School Boards take in regard to a Superintendent.

    Can someone explain the projected $300,000 loss to DJUSD? The last time the charter proposal was considered by the Board, staff expressed a concern that VOCS could not survive because the ADA that VOCS would receive would not cover its expenses. Now we hear that the amount DJUSD will lose if VOCS opens with approx 180 kids is $300,000 because of lost ADA minus savings on expenses. For that to be true, wouldn’t DJUSD’s current expenses have to be $300,000 less for each 180 students than the ADA the district receives for those students? If so, why isn’t our school district rolling in money? Frankly, I find Bruce Colby’s fiscal analyses and projections as fuzzy and difficult to understand as Tahir’s were — which is not a good sign.

    It is shocking that the lawyers on the School Board ignored charter school law because they claim it conflicts with their fiduciary duty. Every first year law student knows that a more specific law controls when there is a conflict with a more general law, and that a more recent statute controls when there is a conflict with an older statute. Do they think the legislators who passed the charter school laws were idiots who did not know about fiduciary responsibilities? Four members of our School Board blatantly ignored the law governing their actions, which sounds like good grounds not only for a different decision by the County or the State, but for recall, as well.

    Why is there surprise at Susan Lovenburg’s strong attempts to kill the charter proposal? Susan ran on a platform that had only three points, all of which were very clear in her campaign: (1) I work hard for schools (true); (2) Fiscal issues are the most important thing; and (3) The Best Uses of Schools Task Force were gods and were completely right in everything they decided.

    As for Tim Taylor, this is the second time that he has come up with an absurd proposal in an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for a decision. The first time was when he proposed a poll to see if people would pay an increased parcel tax to keep Valley Oak open. At least Susan, Gina, and Richard are willing to take responsibility for their actions.

    Sheila Allen needs to be commended not only for her comments and her vote, but for her willingness to stand alone (among the elected Board members) on this this issue.

    I hope Amanda Lopez-Lara is not turned off to public service or to politics by her experience on the School Board. We need future leaders and politicians with her clarity of thought and ability to express their ideas.

  154. I could not agree more with the comment that Dr. Hammond was “sandbagged” by the Board — as were the VO charter proponents. At the last meeting re the VO charter, the Board approved having Dr. Hammond and his staff negotiate with the charter proponents to try to work out the perceived problems with the charter. There was an express promise that the negotiations were to be in good faith, and not merely a delay tactic. Four members of the School Board then denied the charter proposal for reasons that had nothing to do with the negotiated “deficiencies” in the original charter proposal.

    Encouraging your Superintendent and his upper-level staff to spend countless hours in analysis and negotiations that are a pointless waste of time is the ultimate failure to meet fiduciary responsibilities. I would love to see someone calculate the cost to the district of the time these high level (and well compensated) administrators spent on this analysis and these negotiations since the last Board meeting regarding the Charter.

    This incident will make it very difficult for the Board and the Superintendent/Staff to work together. What kind of trust will they have in each other? Aside from the offensiveness towards the VO community, this has to be the most offensive action I have seen any of our School Boards take in regard to a Superintendent.

    Can someone explain the projected $300,000 loss to DJUSD? The last time the charter proposal was considered by the Board, staff expressed a concern that VOCS could not survive because the ADA that VOCS would receive would not cover its expenses. Now we hear that the amount DJUSD will lose if VOCS opens with approx 180 kids is $300,000 because of lost ADA minus savings on expenses. For that to be true, wouldn’t DJUSD’s current expenses have to be $300,000 less for each 180 students than the ADA the district receives for those students? If so, why isn’t our school district rolling in money? Frankly, I find Bruce Colby’s fiscal analyses and projections as fuzzy and difficult to understand as Tahir’s were — which is not a good sign.

    It is shocking that the lawyers on the School Board ignored charter school law because they claim it conflicts with their fiduciary duty. Every first year law student knows that a more specific law controls when there is a conflict with a more general law, and that a more recent statute controls when there is a conflict with an older statute. Do they think the legislators who passed the charter school laws were idiots who did not know about fiduciary responsibilities? Four members of our School Board blatantly ignored the law governing their actions, which sounds like good grounds not only for a different decision by the County or the State, but for recall, as well.

    Why is there surprise at Susan Lovenburg’s strong attempts to kill the charter proposal? Susan ran on a platform that had only three points, all of which were very clear in her campaign: (1) I work hard for schools (true); (2) Fiscal issues are the most important thing; and (3) The Best Uses of Schools Task Force were gods and were completely right in everything they decided.

    As for Tim Taylor, this is the second time that he has come up with an absurd proposal in an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for a decision. The first time was when he proposed a poll to see if people would pay an increased parcel tax to keep Valley Oak open. At least Susan, Gina, and Richard are willing to take responsibility for their actions.

    Sheila Allen needs to be commended not only for her comments and her vote, but for her willingness to stand alone (among the elected Board members) on this this issue.

    I hope Amanda Lopez-Lara is not turned off to public service or to politics by her experience on the School Board. We need future leaders and politicians with her clarity of thought and ability to express their ideas.

  155. I could not agree more with the comment that Dr. Hammond was “sandbagged” by the Board — as were the VO charter proponents. At the last meeting re the VO charter, the Board approved having Dr. Hammond and his staff negotiate with the charter proponents to try to work out the perceived problems with the charter. There was an express promise that the negotiations were to be in good faith, and not merely a delay tactic. Four members of the School Board then denied the charter proposal for reasons that had nothing to do with the negotiated “deficiencies” in the original charter proposal.

    Encouraging your Superintendent and his upper-level staff to spend countless hours in analysis and negotiations that are a pointless waste of time is the ultimate failure to meet fiduciary responsibilities. I would love to see someone calculate the cost to the district of the time these high level (and well compensated) administrators spent on this analysis and these negotiations since the last Board meeting regarding the Charter.

    This incident will make it very difficult for the Board and the Superintendent/Staff to work together. What kind of trust will they have in each other? Aside from the offensiveness towards the VO community, this has to be the most offensive action I have seen any of our School Boards take in regard to a Superintendent.

    Can someone explain the projected $300,000 loss to DJUSD? The last time the charter proposal was considered by the Board, staff expressed a concern that VOCS could not survive because the ADA that VOCS would receive would not cover its expenses. Now we hear that the amount DJUSD will lose if VOCS opens with approx 180 kids is $300,000 because of lost ADA minus savings on expenses. For that to be true, wouldn’t DJUSD’s current expenses have to be $300,000 less for each 180 students than the ADA the district receives for those students? If so, why isn’t our school district rolling in money? Frankly, I find Bruce Colby’s fiscal analyses and projections as fuzzy and difficult to understand as Tahir’s were — which is not a good sign.

    It is shocking that the lawyers on the School Board ignored charter school law because they claim it conflicts with their fiduciary duty. Every first year law student knows that a more specific law controls when there is a conflict with a more general law, and that a more recent statute controls when there is a conflict with an older statute. Do they think the legislators who passed the charter school laws were idiots who did not know about fiduciary responsibilities? Four members of our School Board blatantly ignored the law governing their actions, which sounds like good grounds not only for a different decision by the County or the State, but for recall, as well.

    Why is there surprise at Susan Lovenburg’s strong attempts to kill the charter proposal? Susan ran on a platform that had only three points, all of which were very clear in her campaign: (1) I work hard for schools (true); (2) Fiscal issues are the most important thing; and (3) The Best Uses of Schools Task Force were gods and were completely right in everything they decided.

    As for Tim Taylor, this is the second time that he has come up with an absurd proposal in an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for a decision. The first time was when he proposed a poll to see if people would pay an increased parcel tax to keep Valley Oak open. At least Susan, Gina, and Richard are willing to take responsibility for their actions.

    Sheila Allen needs to be commended not only for her comments and her vote, but for her willingness to stand alone (among the elected Board members) on this this issue.

    I hope Amanda Lopez-Lara is not turned off to public service or to politics by her experience on the School Board. We need future leaders and politicians with her clarity of thought and ability to express their ideas.

  156. I could not agree more with the comment that Dr. Hammond was “sandbagged” by the Board — as were the VO charter proponents. At the last meeting re the VO charter, the Board approved having Dr. Hammond and his staff negotiate with the charter proponents to try to work out the perceived problems with the charter. There was an express promise that the negotiations were to be in good faith, and not merely a delay tactic. Four members of the School Board then denied the charter proposal for reasons that had nothing to do with the negotiated “deficiencies” in the original charter proposal.

    Encouraging your Superintendent and his upper-level staff to spend countless hours in analysis and negotiations that are a pointless waste of time is the ultimate failure to meet fiduciary responsibilities. I would love to see someone calculate the cost to the district of the time these high level (and well compensated) administrators spent on this analysis and these negotiations since the last Board meeting regarding the Charter.

    This incident will make it very difficult for the Board and the Superintendent/Staff to work together. What kind of trust will they have in each other? Aside from the offensiveness towards the VO community, this has to be the most offensive action I have seen any of our School Boards take in regard to a Superintendent.

    Can someone explain the projected $300,000 loss to DJUSD? The last time the charter proposal was considered by the Board, staff expressed a concern that VOCS could not survive because the ADA that VOCS would receive would not cover its expenses. Now we hear that the amount DJUSD will lose if VOCS opens with approx 180 kids is $300,000 because of lost ADA minus savings on expenses. For that to be true, wouldn’t DJUSD’s current expenses have to be $300,000 less for each 180 students than the ADA the district receives for those students? If so, why isn’t our school district rolling in money? Frankly, I find Bruce Colby’s fiscal analyses and projections as fuzzy and difficult to understand as Tahir’s were — which is not a good sign.

    It is shocking that the lawyers on the School Board ignored charter school law because they claim it conflicts with their fiduciary duty. Every first year law student knows that a more specific law controls when there is a conflict with a more general law, and that a more recent statute controls when there is a conflict with an older statute. Do they think the legislators who passed the charter school laws were idiots who did not know about fiduciary responsibilities? Four members of our School Board blatantly ignored the law governing their actions, which sounds like good grounds not only for a different decision by the County or the State, but for recall, as well.

    Why is there surprise at Susan Lovenburg’s strong attempts to kill the charter proposal? Susan ran on a platform that had only three points, all of which were very clear in her campaign: (1) I work hard for schools (true); (2) Fiscal issues are the most important thing; and (3) The Best Uses of Schools Task Force were gods and were completely right in everything they decided.

    As for Tim Taylor, this is the second time that he has come up with an absurd proposal in an attempt to avoid taking responsibility for a decision. The first time was when he proposed a poll to see if people would pay an increased parcel tax to keep Valley Oak open. At least Susan, Gina, and Richard are willing to take responsibility for their actions.

    Sheila Allen needs to be commended not only for her comments and her vote, but for her willingness to stand alone (among the elected Board members) on this this issue.

    I hope Amanda Lopez-Lara is not turned off to public service or to politics by her experience on the School Board. We need future leaders and politicians with her clarity of thought and ability to express their ideas.

  157. A recipe for disaster:
    Take an exceedingly complex budget of 80 millions/yr controlled by a body made up of ordinary citizens with no particular history of competence or leadership skills. Add motivation made up of cynical political ambition and/or the perceived “needs” of the kids(their kind). Stir together with “sandbagging” the one who has just been hired to the tune of near a quarter million dollars/yr to offer exactly this experience, competence and leadership. Bake in the oven of a County and State appeal. Serve while still hot to the people of Davis.

  158. A recipe for disaster:
    Take an exceedingly complex budget of 80 millions/yr controlled by a body made up of ordinary citizens with no particular history of competence or leadership skills. Add motivation made up of cynical political ambition and/or the perceived “needs” of the kids(their kind). Stir together with “sandbagging” the one who has just been hired to the tune of near a quarter million dollars/yr to offer exactly this experience, competence and leadership. Bake in the oven of a County and State appeal. Serve while still hot to the people of Davis.

  159. A recipe for disaster:
    Take an exceedingly complex budget of 80 millions/yr controlled by a body made up of ordinary citizens with no particular history of competence or leadership skills. Add motivation made up of cynical political ambition and/or the perceived “needs” of the kids(their kind). Stir together with “sandbagging” the one who has just been hired to the tune of near a quarter million dollars/yr to offer exactly this experience, competence and leadership. Bake in the oven of a County and State appeal. Serve while still hot to the people of Davis.

  160. A recipe for disaster:
    Take an exceedingly complex budget of 80 millions/yr controlled by a body made up of ordinary citizens with no particular history of competence or leadership skills. Add motivation made up of cynical political ambition and/or the perceived “needs” of the kids(their kind). Stir together with “sandbagging” the one who has just been hired to the tune of near a quarter million dollars/yr to offer exactly this experience, competence and leadership. Bake in the oven of a County and State appeal. Serve while still hot to the people of Davis.

  161. Anonymous said” I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… “

    Wait—isn’t Tim Taylor a lawyer?

  162. Anonymous said” I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… “

    Wait—isn’t Tim Taylor a lawyer?

  163. Anonymous said” I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… “

    Wait—isn’t Tim Taylor a lawyer?

  164. Anonymous said” I believe it was Taylor who put forth the outrageous argument last evening that at this juncture there were unanswered legal questions about denying a charter for fiscal reasons that their lawyer needed to be consulted about; silence from the Board lawyer standing nearby. Really!!… “

    Wait—isn’t Tim Taylor a lawyer?

  165. It’s probably worth reposting this, from the California Department of Education:

    “On what basis might a local governing board deny a charter petition?

    The law specifies that the chartering authority should be guided by legislative intent, which encourages the establishment of charter schools; there is a presumption that charter petitions meeting the requirements of law will be approved.
    A local educational agency may not deny a charter petition unless it makes written factual findings, specific to the particular petition, that:
    (1) the charter school presents an unsound educational program;
    (2) the petitioners are demonstrably unlikely to successfully implement the program set forth in the petition;
    (3) the petition does not contain the required number of signatures;
    (4) the petition does not contain an affirmation of each of the conditions described in Education Code Section 47605(d); or
    (5) the petition does not contain reasonably comprehensive descriptions of all of the 16 required elements of the petition.
    Ref. Education Code Section 47605(b)”

    Charters have been denied for fiscal reasons. It has gone to court. Districts lose. In one case, the judge required the district to pay the charter school’s attorney fees.

    If the county board of education approves the charter on appeal, the county board becomes the authorizing agency with oversight responsibility.

  166. It’s probably worth reposting this, from the California Department of Education:

    “On what basis might a local governing board deny a charter petition?

    The law specifies that the chartering authority should be guided by legislative intent, which encourages the establishment of charter schools; there is a presumption that charter petitions meeting the requirements of law will be approved.
    A local educational agency may not deny a charter petition unless it makes written factual findings, specific to the particular petition, that:
    (1) the charter school presents an unsound educational program;
    (2) the petitioners are demonstrably unlikely to successfully implement the program set forth in the petition;
    (3) the petition does not contain the required number of signatures;
    (4) the petition does not contain an affirmation of each of the conditions described in Education Code Section 47605(d); or
    (5) the petition does not contain reasonably comprehensive descriptions of all of the 16 required elements of the petition.
    Ref. Education Code Section 47605(b)”

    Charters have been denied for fiscal reasons. It has gone to court. Districts lose. In one case, the judge required the district to pay the charter school’s attorney fees.

    If the county board of education approves the charter on appeal, the county board becomes the authorizing agency with oversight responsibility.

  167. It’s probably worth reposting this, from the California Department of Education:

    “On what basis might a local governing board deny a charter petition?

    The law specifies that the chartering authority should be guided by legislative intent, which encourages the establishment of charter schools; there is a presumption that charter petitions meeting the requirements of law will be approved.
    A local educational agency may not deny a charter petition unless it makes written factual findings, specific to the particular petition, that:
    (1) the charter school presents an unsound educational program;
    (2) the petitioners are demonstrably unlikely to successfully implement the program set forth in the petition;
    (3) the petition does not contain the required number of signatures;
    (4) the petition does not contain an affirmation of each of the conditions described in Education Code Section 47605(d); or
    (5) the petition does not contain reasonably comprehensive descriptions of all of the 16 required elements of the petition.
    Ref. Education Code Section 47605(b)”

    Charters have been denied for fiscal reasons. It has gone to court. Districts lose. In one case, the judge required the district to pay the charter school’s attorney fees.

    If the county board of education approves the charter on appeal, the county board becomes the authorizing agency with oversight responsibility.

  168. It’s probably worth reposting this, from the California Department of Education:

    “On what basis might a local governing board deny a charter petition?

    The law specifies that the chartering authority should be guided by legislative intent, which encourages the establishment of charter schools; there is a presumption that charter petitions meeting the requirements of law will be approved.
    A local educational agency may not deny a charter petition unless it makes written factual findings, specific to the particular petition, that:
    (1) the charter school presents an unsound educational program;
    (2) the petitioners are demonstrably unlikely to successfully implement the program set forth in the petition;
    (3) the petition does not contain the required number of signatures;
    (4) the petition does not contain an affirmation of each of the conditions described in Education Code Section 47605(d); or
    (5) the petition does not contain reasonably comprehensive descriptions of all of the 16 required elements of the petition.
    Ref. Education Code Section 47605(b)”

    Charters have been denied for fiscal reasons. It has gone to court. Districts lose. In one case, the judge required the district to pay the charter school’s attorney fees.

    If the county board of education approves the charter on appeal, the county board becomes the authorizing agency with oversight responsibility.

  169. will the district attempt to create “facts on the ground” by approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility while the appeal is pending?

    sounds crazy, but then so was Thursday’s vote

    -Richard Estes

  170. will the district attempt to create “facts on the ground” by approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility while the appeal is pending?

    sounds crazy, but then so was Thursday’s vote

    -Richard Estes

  171. will the district attempt to create “facts on the ground” by approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility while the appeal is pending?

    sounds crazy, but then so was Thursday’s vote

    -Richard Estes

  172. will the district attempt to create “facts on the ground” by approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility while the appeal is pending?

    sounds crazy, but then so was Thursday’s vote

    -Richard Estes

  173. Richard, that is exactly what I predicted a while back that the negotiations were to stall the process until it would be too late to do anything next school year and that they would do something with the property so that it becomes unavailable before the appeal goes forward. My guess is they move the disrtict office to Valley Oak and develop shopping and condos at 4th and B. Although it would be the ultimate arrogance to move into the neighborhood that they have worked so hard to eviscerate for the benefit of others, in more affluent parts of town, their shameless preformance on this issue to date demonstrates that new lows may yet be reached.

    There may be a secret plan to undermine Hammond until he takes a new job elsewhere and bring back Murphy thus saving the district enough to fund the Valley Oak Charter or at least give fewer pink slips on March 15 when the bell tolls for the states declining economy and the districts declining enrollment.

    Tragically, the Valley Oak Charter could have done the one thing that would save the district from the no growth policies in Davis that are squeezing the district to death from declining enrollment. They could allow for interdistrict transfers either with a Valley Oak Charter or without it. Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me? But then again most of what they do is beyond me.

    Ron Glick

  174. Richard, that is exactly what I predicted a while back that the negotiations were to stall the process until it would be too late to do anything next school year and that they would do something with the property so that it becomes unavailable before the appeal goes forward. My guess is they move the disrtict office to Valley Oak and develop shopping and condos at 4th and B. Although it would be the ultimate arrogance to move into the neighborhood that they have worked so hard to eviscerate for the benefit of others, in more affluent parts of town, their shameless preformance on this issue to date demonstrates that new lows may yet be reached.

    There may be a secret plan to undermine Hammond until he takes a new job elsewhere and bring back Murphy thus saving the district enough to fund the Valley Oak Charter or at least give fewer pink slips on March 15 when the bell tolls for the states declining economy and the districts declining enrollment.

    Tragically, the Valley Oak Charter could have done the one thing that would save the district from the no growth policies in Davis that are squeezing the district to death from declining enrollment. They could allow for interdistrict transfers either with a Valley Oak Charter or without it. Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me? But then again most of what they do is beyond me.

    Ron Glick

  175. Richard, that is exactly what I predicted a while back that the negotiations were to stall the process until it would be too late to do anything next school year and that they would do something with the property so that it becomes unavailable before the appeal goes forward. My guess is they move the disrtict office to Valley Oak and develop shopping and condos at 4th and B. Although it would be the ultimate arrogance to move into the neighborhood that they have worked so hard to eviscerate for the benefit of others, in more affluent parts of town, their shameless preformance on this issue to date demonstrates that new lows may yet be reached.

    There may be a secret plan to undermine Hammond until he takes a new job elsewhere and bring back Murphy thus saving the district enough to fund the Valley Oak Charter or at least give fewer pink slips on March 15 when the bell tolls for the states declining economy and the districts declining enrollment.

    Tragically, the Valley Oak Charter could have done the one thing that would save the district from the no growth policies in Davis that are squeezing the district to death from declining enrollment. They could allow for interdistrict transfers either with a Valley Oak Charter or without it. Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me? But then again most of what they do is beyond me.

    Ron Glick

  176. Richard, that is exactly what I predicted a while back that the negotiations were to stall the process until it would be too late to do anything next school year and that they would do something with the property so that it becomes unavailable before the appeal goes forward. My guess is they move the disrtict office to Valley Oak and develop shopping and condos at 4th and B. Although it would be the ultimate arrogance to move into the neighborhood that they have worked so hard to eviscerate for the benefit of others, in more affluent parts of town, their shameless preformance on this issue to date demonstrates that new lows may yet be reached.

    There may be a secret plan to undermine Hammond until he takes a new job elsewhere and bring back Murphy thus saving the district enough to fund the Valley Oak Charter or at least give fewer pink slips on March 15 when the bell tolls for the states declining economy and the districts declining enrollment.

    Tragically, the Valley Oak Charter could have done the one thing that would save the district from the no growth policies in Davis that are squeezing the district to death from declining enrollment. They could allow for interdistrict transfers either with a Valley Oak Charter or without it. Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me? But then again most of what they do is beyond me.

    Ron Glick

  177. Ron:

    That’s absurd. Whatever you think about the decision, Daleiden, Taylor and Allen were instrumental in the departure of David Murphy. There is no secret plan to bring him back.

  178. Ron:

    That’s absurd. Whatever you think about the decision, Daleiden, Taylor and Allen were instrumental in the departure of David Murphy. There is no secret plan to bring him back.

  179. Ron:

    That’s absurd. Whatever you think about the decision, Daleiden, Taylor and Allen were instrumental in the departure of David Murphy. There is no secret plan to bring him back.

  180. Ron:

    That’s absurd. Whatever you think about the decision, Daleiden, Taylor and Allen were instrumental in the departure of David Murphy. There is no secret plan to bring him back.

  181. “approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility”

    Neither of these is possible. The same laws which have made it take 10 years (and running) to dispose of the Grande school site apply to Valley Oak and the 5th & B offices.

    School district real estate transactions move at glacier speed — although, in this age of global warming, glaciers are moving faster.

  182. “approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility”

    Neither of these is possible. The same laws which have made it take 10 years (and running) to dispose of the Grande school site apply to Valley Oak and the 5th & B offices.

    School district real estate transactions move at glacier speed — although, in this age of global warming, glaciers are moving faster.

  183. “approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility”

    Neither of these is possible. The same laws which have made it take 10 years (and running) to dispose of the Grande school site apply to Valley Oak and the 5th & B offices.

    School district real estate transactions move at glacier speed — although, in this age of global warming, glaciers are moving faster.

  184. “approving a prompt sale or development of the Valley Oak facility”

    Neither of these is possible. The same laws which have made it take 10 years (and running) to dispose of the Grande school site apply to Valley Oak and the 5th & B offices.

    School district real estate transactions move at glacier speed — although, in this age of global warming, glaciers are moving faster.

  185. I recall that the appeals process for charter school denials is purposefully within a very short timeline(1-2 months right up to the State).. specifically to avoid the stalling tactics of recalcitrant school boards.

  186. I recall that the appeals process for charter school denials is purposefully within a very short timeline(1-2 months right up to the State).. specifically to avoid the stalling tactics of recalcitrant school boards.

  187. I recall that the appeals process for charter school denials is purposefully within a very short timeline(1-2 months right up to the State).. specifically to avoid the stalling tactics of recalcitrant school boards.

  188. I recall that the appeals process for charter school denials is purposefully within a very short timeline(1-2 months right up to the State).. specifically to avoid the stalling tactics of recalcitrant school boards.

  189. “The Charter Schools Act of 1992 (Ed. Code, § 47600 et seq. (the Act)),1 as amended by Proposition 39 in November of 2000, requires public school districts to make their educational facilities available to charter schools operating in the district. The facilities provided must be sufficient to accommodate all the charter school’s in-district students under conditions “reasonably equivalent” to those the students would have if they were attending a noncharter school in the same district. (§ 47614, subd. (b).) The facilities must also be “contiguous,” meaning they must be on or adjacent to a school site. (Ibid., Cal. Code Regs., tit. 5, § 11969.2, subd. (d).)”

  190. “The Charter Schools Act of 1992 (Ed. Code, § 47600 et seq. (the Act)),1 as amended by Proposition 39 in November of 2000, requires public school districts to make their educational facilities available to charter schools operating in the district. The facilities provided must be sufficient to accommodate all the charter school’s in-district students under conditions “reasonably equivalent” to those the students would have if they were attending a noncharter school in the same district. (§ 47614, subd. (b).) The facilities must also be “contiguous,” meaning they must be on or adjacent to a school site. (Ibid., Cal. Code Regs., tit. 5, § 11969.2, subd. (d).)”

  191. “The Charter Schools Act of 1992 (Ed. Code, § 47600 et seq. (the Act)),1 as amended by Proposition 39 in November of 2000, requires public school districts to make their educational facilities available to charter schools operating in the district. The facilities provided must be sufficient to accommodate all the charter school’s in-district students under conditions “reasonably equivalent” to those the students would have if they were attending a noncharter school in the same district. (§ 47614, subd. (b).) The facilities must also be “contiguous,” meaning they must be on or adjacent to a school site. (Ibid., Cal. Code Regs., tit. 5, § 11969.2, subd. (d).)”

  192. “The Charter Schools Act of 1992 (Ed. Code, § 47600 et seq. (the Act)),1 as amended by Proposition 39 in November of 2000, requires public school districts to make their educational facilities available to charter schools operating in the district. The facilities provided must be sufficient to accommodate all the charter school’s in-district students under conditions “reasonably equivalent” to those the students would have if they were attending a noncharter school in the same district. (§ 47614, subd. (b).) The facilities must also be “contiguous,” meaning they must be on or adjacent to a school site. (Ibid., Cal. Code Regs., tit. 5, § 11969.2, subd. (d).)”

  193. DPD, I was trying to make a point about how Hammond was undermined and how nobody should be surprised if he doesn’t stick around. Don’t you think he could get a job in another diatrict with ease? In fact I would be surprised if he didn’t leave after this debacle. It is unbelievable that he would be so embarrassed by the board on his first major initiative. If you hire him to lead you need to let him lead. Say what you will about Marty West but at least she stood by Murphy, the guy she hired, past the very end.

    As for moving the district office they could do that without much difficulty or expense. I was right about them playing for time. I hope I am not right about them making the sight unavailable

  194. DPD, I was trying to make a point about how Hammond was undermined and how nobody should be surprised if he doesn’t stick around. Don’t you think he could get a job in another diatrict with ease? In fact I would be surprised if he didn’t leave after this debacle. It is unbelievable that he would be so embarrassed by the board on his first major initiative. If you hire him to lead you need to let him lead. Say what you will about Marty West but at least she stood by Murphy, the guy she hired, past the very end.

    As for moving the district office they could do that without much difficulty or expense. I was right about them playing for time. I hope I am not right about them making the sight unavailable

  195. DPD, I was trying to make a point about how Hammond was undermined and how nobody should be surprised if he doesn’t stick around. Don’t you think he could get a job in another diatrict with ease? In fact I would be surprised if he didn’t leave after this debacle. It is unbelievable that he would be so embarrassed by the board on his first major initiative. If you hire him to lead you need to let him lead. Say what you will about Marty West but at least she stood by Murphy, the guy she hired, past the very end.

    As for moving the district office they could do that without much difficulty or expense. I was right about them playing for time. I hope I am not right about them making the sight unavailable

  196. DPD, I was trying to make a point about how Hammond was undermined and how nobody should be surprised if he doesn’t stick around. Don’t you think he could get a job in another diatrict with ease? In fact I would be surprised if he didn’t leave after this debacle. It is unbelievable that he would be so embarrassed by the board on his first major initiative. If you hire him to lead you need to let him lead. Say what you will about Marty West but at least she stood by Murphy, the guy she hired, past the very end.

    As for moving the district office they could do that without much difficulty or expense. I was right about them playing for time. I hope I am not right about them making the sight unavailable

  197. From Ron Glick: Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me?

    Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.

  198. From Ron Glick: Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me?

    Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.

  199. From Ron Glick: Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me?

    Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.

  200. From Ron Glick: Why they refuse to allow kids from nearby communities in to save their balance sheet is beyond me?

    Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.

  201. I would be extraordinarily surprised if he left Davis any time soon. I think the board will support him a majority of the time on most issues.

  202. You will nver know unless you try. To say they won’t let them go as a reason not to make that option available is sort of a blame the victim mentality. I’d like to see this play out. I just don’t think saying no to coming is the same as saying no to leaving.

    Ron

  203. I would be extraordinarily surprised if he left Davis any time soon. I think the board will support him a majority of the time on most issues.

  204. You will nver know unless you try. To say they won’t let them go as a reason not to make that option available is sort of a blame the victim mentality. I’d like to see this play out. I just don’t think saying no to coming is the same as saying no to leaving.

    Ron

  205. I would be extraordinarily surprised if he left Davis any time soon. I think the board will support him a majority of the time on most issues.

  206. You will nver know unless you try. To say they won’t let them go as a reason not to make that option available is sort of a blame the victim mentality. I’d like to see this play out. I just don’t think saying no to coming is the same as saying no to leaving.

    Ron

  207. I would be extraordinarily surprised if he left Davis any time soon. I think the board will support him a majority of the time on most issues.

  208. You will nver know unless you try. To say they won’t let them go as a reason not to make that option available is sort of a blame the victim mentality. I’d like to see this play out. I just don’t think saying no to coming is the same as saying no to leaving.

    Ron

  209. I seem to remember this issue being raised at a recent DJUSD school board meeting where staff opined that Woodland has no issue with their students leaving for another district. There is no indication that their policy is changing significantly.

  210. I seem to remember this issue being raised at a recent DJUSD school board meeting where staff opined that Woodland has no issue with their students leaving for another district. There is no indication that their policy is changing significantly.

  211. I seem to remember this issue being raised at a recent DJUSD school board meeting where staff opined that Woodland has no issue with their students leaving for another district. There is no indication that their policy is changing significantly.

  212. I seem to remember this issue being raised at a recent DJUSD school board meeting where staff opined that Woodland has no issue with their students leaving for another district. There is no indication that their policy is changing significantly.

  213. Ron,

    Why would Hammond leave? Not only would it be a bad move for him career wise, but it would be a bad move for the school board, half of which hired him. Just because they disagreed on an issue does not mean that they will not be supportive and work well together in the long run.

  214. Ron,

    Why would Hammond leave? Not only would it be a bad move for him career wise, but it would be a bad move for the school board, half of which hired him. Just because they disagreed on an issue does not mean that they will not be supportive and work well together in the long run.

  215. Ron,

    Why would Hammond leave? Not only would it be a bad move for him career wise, but it would be a bad move for the school board, half of which hired him. Just because they disagreed on an issue does not mean that they will not be supportive and work well together in the long run.

  216. Ron,

    Why would Hammond leave? Not only would it be a bad move for him career wise, but it would be a bad move for the school board, half of which hired him. Just because they disagreed on an issue does not mean that they will not be supportive and work well together in the long run.

  217. Dear Observer, Depends on where he might go, what they would pay him and how much support he would get. Davis isn’t the last stop for Hammond’s career. He is young, obviously talented and can provide diversity at the top anywhere he goes. Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation. He might go to a larger district like Fairfield that is searching for a new leader and he wouldn’t need to move. He might go to work for the State, the Feds, or some really large district like San Franciso or Seattle. Maybe he will like it here and this will blow over but don’t think what happened to him the other night didn’t really hurt on a personal level and don’t discount the notion that it might make him think twice about his decision to come to Davis.

    Ron

  218. Dear Observer, Depends on where he might go, what they would pay him and how much support he would get. Davis isn’t the last stop for Hammond’s career. He is young, obviously talented and can provide diversity at the top anywhere he goes. Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation. He might go to a larger district like Fairfield that is searching for a new leader and he wouldn’t need to move. He might go to work for the State, the Feds, or some really large district like San Franciso or Seattle. Maybe he will like it here and this will blow over but don’t think what happened to him the other night didn’t really hurt on a personal level and don’t discount the notion that it might make him think twice about his decision to come to Davis.

    Ron

  219. Dear Observer, Depends on where he might go, what they would pay him and how much support he would get. Davis isn’t the last stop for Hammond’s career. He is young, obviously talented and can provide diversity at the top anywhere he goes. Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation. He might go to a larger district like Fairfield that is searching for a new leader and he wouldn’t need to move. He might go to work for the State, the Feds, or some really large district like San Franciso or Seattle. Maybe he will like it here and this will blow over but don’t think what happened to him the other night didn’t really hurt on a personal level and don’t discount the notion that it might make him think twice about his decision to come to Davis.

    Ron

  220. Dear Observer, Depends on where he might go, what they would pay him and how much support he would get. Davis isn’t the last stop for Hammond’s career. He is young, obviously talented and can provide diversity at the top anywhere he goes. Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation. He might go to a larger district like Fairfield that is searching for a new leader and he wouldn’t need to move. He might go to work for the State, the Feds, or some really large district like San Franciso or Seattle. Maybe he will like it here and this will blow over but don’t think what happened to him the other night didn’t really hurt on a personal level and don’t discount the notion that it might make him think twice about his decision to come to Davis.

    Ron

  221. Ron,

    You said, “…Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation.”

    Gives his resume….having worked here for only 2 months?! Please, he’s not going to give up that easily. He’s a bright man and will not throw in the towel over a disagreement. That would be very silly and unprofessional. I don’t see him being either of these, since I see him as a very professional person.

    I would even go so far as to say he is THE MOST PROFESSIONAL sup. we have had in Davis.

  222. Ron,

    You said, “…Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation.”

    Gives his resume….having worked here for only 2 months?! Please, he’s not going to give up that easily. He’s a bright man and will not throw in the towel over a disagreement. That would be very silly and unprofessional. I don’t see him being either of these, since I see him as a very professional person.

    I would even go so far as to say he is THE MOST PROFESSIONAL sup. we have had in Davis.

  223. Ron,

    You said, “…Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation.”

    Gives his resume….having worked here for only 2 months?! Please, he’s not going to give up that easily. He’s a bright man and will not throw in the towel over a disagreement. That would be very silly and unprofessional. I don’t see him being either of these, since I see him as a very professional person.

    I would even go so far as to say he is THE MOST PROFESSIONAL sup. we have had in Davis.

  224. Ron,

    You said, “…Davis gives his resume the cache of running a district with a gold plated academic reputation.”

    Gives his resume….having worked here for only 2 months?! Please, he’s not going to give up that easily. He’s a bright man and will not throw in the towel over a disagreement. That would be very silly and unprofessional. I don’t see him being either of these, since I see him as a very professional person.

    I would even go so far as to say he is THE MOST PROFESSIONAL sup. we have had in Davis.

  225. Of course he won’t go without landing on his feet but just the fact that Davis hired him gives his resume more cache. He probably will stick around for a while and I hope that he does but people at his level move around all the time. It is not considered unprofessional to do so at all.

    Additionally, to call what happened the other night “A disagreement” really understates the gravity of the situation. This was the first big public demonstration of his leadership. Maybe if he had been on the job for a year or two it would not have been so devastating but to be smacked across the face like this right out of the gate must have really hurt.

    Ron

  226. Of course he won’t go without landing on his feet but just the fact that Davis hired him gives his resume more cache. He probably will stick around for a while and I hope that he does but people at his level move around all the time. It is not considered unprofessional to do so at all.

    Additionally, to call what happened the other night “A disagreement” really understates the gravity of the situation. This was the first big public demonstration of his leadership. Maybe if he had been on the job for a year or two it would not have been so devastating but to be smacked across the face like this right out of the gate must have really hurt.

    Ron

  227. Of course he won’t go without landing on his feet but just the fact that Davis hired him gives his resume more cache. He probably will stick around for a while and I hope that he does but people at his level move around all the time. It is not considered unprofessional to do so at all.

    Additionally, to call what happened the other night “A disagreement” really understates the gravity of the situation. This was the first big public demonstration of his leadership. Maybe if he had been on the job for a year or two it would not have been so devastating but to be smacked across the face like this right out of the gate must have really hurt.

    Ron

  228. Of course he won’t go without landing on his feet but just the fact that Davis hired him gives his resume more cache. He probably will stick around for a while and I hope that he does but people at his level move around all the time. It is not considered unprofessional to do so at all.

    Additionally, to call what happened the other night “A disagreement” really understates the gravity of the situation. This was the first big public demonstration of his leadership. Maybe if he had been on the job for a year or two it would not have been so devastating but to be smacked across the face like this right out of the gate must have really hurt.

    Ron

  229. Ron,

    I think he is tougher than you give him credit for being.

    What you haven’t recognized is that he scored points with a lot of people observing how he handled this situation. I blame the majority of the school board members who voted again the VOC. I don’t blame him. The man has class and I think he has the children’s best interest at heart.

    Sorry, but I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

  230. Ron,

    I think he is tougher than you give him credit for being.

    What you haven’t recognized is that he scored points with a lot of people observing how he handled this situation. I blame the majority of the school board members who voted again the VOC. I don’t blame him. The man has class and I think he has the children’s best interest at heart.

    Sorry, but I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

  231. Ron,

    I think he is tougher than you give him credit for being.

    What you haven’t recognized is that he scored points with a lot of people observing how he handled this situation. I blame the majority of the school board members who voted again the VOC. I don’t blame him. The man has class and I think he has the children’s best interest at heart.

    Sorry, but I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

  232. Ron,

    I think he is tougher than you give him credit for being.

    What you haven’t recognized is that he scored points with a lot of people observing how he handled this situation. I blame the majority of the school board members who voted again the VOC. I don’t blame him. The man has class and I think he has the children’s best interest at heart.

    Sorry, but I think we’ll have to agree to disagree on this one.

  233. Time will tell and I hope you are right but people are sensitive. I’ve seen lots of people leave places over a lot less. I saw a department chair leave over an unintentional insult from a principal at a faculty meeting. Remember when the Davis Superintendent left Davis for more money in Fairfield and then retired over a pay dispute. In Woodland the Superintendent left Travis to move to a bigger district. I worked with a Principal who changed districts because of a school board. This stuff happens all the time and it could happen here.

    Remember it is hard for a Superintendent to be better then the school board he serves.

    Ron

  234. Time will tell and I hope you are right but people are sensitive. I’ve seen lots of people leave places over a lot less. I saw a department chair leave over an unintentional insult from a principal at a faculty meeting. Remember when the Davis Superintendent left Davis for more money in Fairfield and then retired over a pay dispute. In Woodland the Superintendent left Travis to move to a bigger district. I worked with a Principal who changed districts because of a school board. This stuff happens all the time and it could happen here.

    Remember it is hard for a Superintendent to be better then the school board he serves.

    Ron

  235. Time will tell and I hope you are right but people are sensitive. I’ve seen lots of people leave places over a lot less. I saw a department chair leave over an unintentional insult from a principal at a faculty meeting. Remember when the Davis Superintendent left Davis for more money in Fairfield and then retired over a pay dispute. In Woodland the Superintendent left Travis to move to a bigger district. I worked with a Principal who changed districts because of a school board. This stuff happens all the time and it could happen here.

    Remember it is hard for a Superintendent to be better then the school board he serves.

    Ron

  236. Time will tell and I hope you are right but people are sensitive. I’ve seen lots of people leave places over a lot less. I saw a department chair leave over an unintentional insult from a principal at a faculty meeting. Remember when the Davis Superintendent left Davis for more money in Fairfield and then retired over a pay dispute. In Woodland the Superintendent left Travis to move to a bigger district. I worked with a Principal who changed districts because of a school board. This stuff happens all the time and it could happen here.

    Remember it is hard for a Superintendent to be better then the school board he serves.

    Ron

  237. Is Hammond now going to instruct his staff to put together written findings to challenge the appeal after he took the position that it should be approved? Remember, he is expressly forbidden to use fiscal issues in the State statute and that is all that the transcript of the Board’s rejection vote discussion will reveal. Under the present circumstances, I’m afraid that Hammond has NO CHOICE but to resign as Superintendent, for no other reason than to protect the reputation of his chosen career.
    This Board is ripe for a recall campaign based upon gross incompetence.

  238. Is Hammond now going to instruct his staff to put together written findings to challenge the appeal after he took the position that it should be approved? Remember, he is expressly forbidden to use fiscal issues in the State statute and that is all that the transcript of the Board’s rejection vote discussion will reveal. Under the present circumstances, I’m afraid that Hammond has NO CHOICE but to resign as Superintendent, for no other reason than to protect the reputation of his chosen career.
    This Board is ripe for a recall campaign based upon gross incompetence.

  239. Is Hammond now going to instruct his staff to put together written findings to challenge the appeal after he took the position that it should be approved? Remember, he is expressly forbidden to use fiscal issues in the State statute and that is all that the transcript of the Board’s rejection vote discussion will reveal. Under the present circumstances, I’m afraid that Hammond has NO CHOICE but to resign as Superintendent, for no other reason than to protect the reputation of his chosen career.
    This Board is ripe for a recall campaign based upon gross incompetence.

  240. Is Hammond now going to instruct his staff to put together written findings to challenge the appeal after he took the position that it should be approved? Remember, he is expressly forbidden to use fiscal issues in the State statute and that is all that the transcript of the Board’s rejection vote discussion will reveal. Under the present circumstances, I’m afraid that Hammond has NO CHOICE but to resign as Superintendent, for no other reason than to protect the reputation of his chosen career.
    This Board is ripe for a recall campaign based upon gross incompetence.

  241. I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold. The transcript of the last Board meeting should be enough to illustrate that there is more than enough to challenge the Board’s decision as a violation of law and that the deadline for the parents to register their children should not be permitted as a stalling tactic to kill the VO Charter School.

  242. I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold. The transcript of the last Board meeting should be enough to illustrate that there is more than enough to challenge the Board’s decision as a violation of law and that the deadline for the parents to register their children should not be permitted as a stalling tactic to kill the VO Charter School.

  243. I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold. The transcript of the last Board meeting should be enough to illustrate that there is more than enough to challenge the Board’s decision as a violation of law and that the deadline for the parents to register their children should not be permitted as a stalling tactic to kill the VO Charter School.

  244. I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold. The transcript of the last Board meeting should be enough to illustrate that there is more than enough to challenge the Board’s decision as a violation of law and that the deadline for the parents to register their children should not be permitted as a stalling tactic to kill the VO Charter School.

  245. Thanks to everyone who has followed the development of VOCS and who offer their support, characterizing much of the Davis community. We know the DJUSD board does not represent everyone in the community, particularly the Valley Oak community, and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process. VOCS is anything but dead, but at this point it finds itself plotting a course quite separate from the district. Given its board’s behavior the other night, that can only be a good thing. The Valley Oak community can have its school, though now the support needs to come from them directly because the founding group cannot do it alone.

    I wish to reply to a few comments made thus far…

    “You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.”

    All of us engaged in the issue-solving process, namely the superintendent, the district’s attorney, and the charter group, took careful and copious notes of every issue presented by the board in December and voiced by them as talks ensued. We took great pains to provide every assurance that their concerns were addressed, complete with our creation of a very disadvantageous time line to meet at our peril to ensure the board we knew what we were doing, or else. It was not in our mandate to address the financial impact on the district, as that is not a legal basis for denial. However, the board faces no statutory sanctions for their illegal vote. The only disadvantage to taking that vote was the chance that should we indeed establish VOCS, it will be under the very terms they found so objectionable a month ago.

    “Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.”

    That is true of standard district-to-district transfers, but not of enrollment in a charter school. Any child in the state of California may enroll in any California charter school without impediment by their home district. Home districts may not deny the transfer to a charter school.

    “I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold.”

    This is a case of perhaps acknowledging our better course as one more autonomous from the district than provided in the charter we renegotiated prior to last Thursday’s vote. Considering the depth of hostility we have faced over the past three years, I personally do not believe it is in the interest of any school in the Valley Oak neighborhood to align itself with a district so completely bent on its destruction. The charter would come up for renewal in no less than five years, and just as it has been hostile to a successful Valley Oak program, a successful VOCS will face no less hostile dismissal of its success. The board has revealed its destructive intent not only toward the Valley Oak community, but to the law itself, and it is best for VOCS to structure its existence apart from it.

  246. Thanks to everyone who has followed the development of VOCS and who offer their support, characterizing much of the Davis community. We know the DJUSD board does not represent everyone in the community, particularly the Valley Oak community, and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process. VOCS is anything but dead, but at this point it finds itself plotting a course quite separate from the district. Given its board’s behavior the other night, that can only be a good thing. The Valley Oak community can have its school, though now the support needs to come from them directly because the founding group cannot do it alone.

    I wish to reply to a few comments made thus far…

    “You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.”

    All of us engaged in the issue-solving process, namely the superintendent, the district’s attorney, and the charter group, took careful and copious notes of every issue presented by the board in December and voiced by them as talks ensued. We took great pains to provide every assurance that their concerns were addressed, complete with our creation of a very disadvantageous time line to meet at our peril to ensure the board we knew what we were doing, or else. It was not in our mandate to address the financial impact on the district, as that is not a legal basis for denial. However, the board faces no statutory sanctions for their illegal vote. The only disadvantage to taking that vote was the chance that should we indeed establish VOCS, it will be under the very terms they found so objectionable a month ago.

    “Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.”

    That is true of standard district-to-district transfers, but not of enrollment in a charter school. Any child in the state of California may enroll in any California charter school without impediment by their home district. Home districts may not deny the transfer to a charter school.

    “I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold.”

    This is a case of perhaps acknowledging our better course as one more autonomous from the district than provided in the charter we renegotiated prior to last Thursday’s vote. Considering the depth of hostility we have faced over the past three years, I personally do not believe it is in the interest of any school in the Valley Oak neighborhood to align itself with a district so completely bent on its destruction. The charter would come up for renewal in no less than five years, and just as it has been hostile to a successful Valley Oak program, a successful VOCS will face no less hostile dismissal of its success. The board has revealed its destructive intent not only toward the Valley Oak community, but to the law itself, and it is best for VOCS to structure its existence apart from it.

  247. Thanks to everyone who has followed the development of VOCS and who offer their support, characterizing much of the Davis community. We know the DJUSD board does not represent everyone in the community, particularly the Valley Oak community, and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process. VOCS is anything but dead, but at this point it finds itself plotting a course quite separate from the district. Given its board’s behavior the other night, that can only be a good thing. The Valley Oak community can have its school, though now the support needs to come from them directly because the founding group cannot do it alone.

    I wish to reply to a few comments made thus far…

    “You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.”

    All of us engaged in the issue-solving process, namely the superintendent, the district’s attorney, and the charter group, took careful and copious notes of every issue presented by the board in December and voiced by them as talks ensued. We took great pains to provide every assurance that their concerns were addressed, complete with our creation of a very disadvantageous time line to meet at our peril to ensure the board we knew what we were doing, or else. It was not in our mandate to address the financial impact on the district, as that is not a legal basis for denial. However, the board faces no statutory sanctions for their illegal vote. The only disadvantage to taking that vote was the chance that should we indeed establish VOCS, it will be under the very terms they found so objectionable a month ago.

    “Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.”

    That is true of standard district-to-district transfers, but not of enrollment in a charter school. Any child in the state of California may enroll in any California charter school without impediment by their home district. Home districts may not deny the transfer to a charter school.

    “I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold.”

    This is a case of perhaps acknowledging our better course as one more autonomous from the district than provided in the charter we renegotiated prior to last Thursday’s vote. Considering the depth of hostility we have faced over the past three years, I personally do not believe it is in the interest of any school in the Valley Oak neighborhood to align itself with a district so completely bent on its destruction. The charter would come up for renewal in no less than five years, and just as it has been hostile to a successful Valley Oak program, a successful VOCS will face no less hostile dismissal of its success. The board has revealed its destructive intent not only toward the Valley Oak community, but to the law itself, and it is best for VOCS to structure its existence apart from it.

  248. Thanks to everyone who has followed the development of VOCS and who offer their support, characterizing much of the Davis community. We know the DJUSD board does not represent everyone in the community, particularly the Valley Oak community, and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process. VOCS is anything but dead, but at this point it finds itself plotting a course quite separate from the district. Given its board’s behavior the other night, that can only be a good thing. The Valley Oak community can have its school, though now the support needs to come from them directly because the founding group cannot do it alone.

    I wish to reply to a few comments made thus far…

    “You are assuming the trustees told him to negotiate and then voted down his work. It seems more likely that he went forward with the charter group without getting the trustees on board first.”

    All of us engaged in the issue-solving process, namely the superintendent, the district’s attorney, and the charter group, took careful and copious notes of every issue presented by the board in December and voiced by them as talks ensued. We took great pains to provide every assurance that their concerns were addressed, complete with our creation of a very disadvantageous time line to meet at our peril to ensure the board we knew what we were doing, or else. It was not in our mandate to address the financial impact on the district, as that is not a legal basis for denial. However, the board faces no statutory sanctions for their illegal vote. The only disadvantage to taking that vote was the chance that should we indeed establish VOCS, it will be under the very terms they found so objectionable a month ago.

    “Answer: kids’ host districts have to agree to release them to Davis; not likely since some like Dixon are in deep financial trouble, and Woodland is facing declines in enrollment too.”

    That is true of standard district-to-district transfers, but not of enrollment in a charter school. Any child in the state of California may enroll in any California charter school without impediment by their home district. Home districts may not deny the transfer to a charter school.

    “I would hope that the VO petitioners are considering getting an immediate court injunction that puts the Feb. deadline for school registration on hold.”

    This is a case of perhaps acknowledging our better course as one more autonomous from the district than provided in the charter we renegotiated prior to last Thursday’s vote. Considering the depth of hostility we have faced over the past three years, I personally do not believe it is in the interest of any school in the Valley Oak neighborhood to align itself with a district so completely bent on its destruction. The charter would come up for renewal in no less than five years, and just as it has been hostile to a successful Valley Oak program, a successful VOCS will face no less hostile dismissal of its success. The board has revealed its destructive intent not only toward the Valley Oak community, but to the law itself, and it is best for VOCS to structure its existence apart from it.

  249. Bill Storm said:
    …and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process.

    Of course, you are looking for support from the VO neighborhood constituency to commit(as much as possible) to sending their children to VOCS. Is “support” also looking for funds to mount the legal appeals process? I am sure that there are many OUTSIDE of the VO neighborhood constituency who would support your efforts with a donation.Please post how to do this if this is what you need.

  250. Bill Storm said:
    …and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process.

    Of course, you are looking for support from the VO neighborhood constituency to commit(as much as possible) to sending their children to VOCS. Is “support” also looking for funds to mount the legal appeals process? I am sure that there are many OUTSIDE of the VO neighborhood constituency who would support your efforts with a donation.Please post how to do this if this is what you need.

  251. Bill Storm said:
    …and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process.

    Of course, you are looking for support from the VO neighborhood constituency to commit(as much as possible) to sending their children to VOCS. Is “support” also looking for funds to mount the legal appeals process? I am sure that there are many OUTSIDE of the VO neighborhood constituency who would support your efforts with a donation.Please post how to do this if this is what you need.

  252. Bill Storm said:
    …and it is to that constituency we will be looking for continuing support as VOCS makes its way through the appeals process.

    Of course, you are looking for support from the VO neighborhood constituency to commit(as much as possible) to sending their children to VOCS. Is “support” also looking for funds to mount the legal appeals process? I am sure that there are many OUTSIDE of the VO neighborhood constituency who would support your efforts with a donation.Please post how to do this if this is what you need.

  253. The appeals process is not dissimilar to what we have already done, except we will presenting our case to another agency, in the initial instance to the Yolo County Board of Eduction. If it’s money we need, we’ll post the need here – thank you.

    As I’ve observed to others, the current circumstance will make outside fund raising a little easier, as we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district. For instance, our technology initiatives will attract those interested in making a difference in the achievement gap, something to which the DJUSD board does not respond. We will perhaps attract the resources we need to do something significant in technology without having to first align to the interests and biases of DJUSD.

  254. The appeals process is not dissimilar to what we have already done, except we will presenting our case to another agency, in the initial instance to the Yolo County Board of Eduction. If it’s money we need, we’ll post the need here – thank you.

    As I’ve observed to others, the current circumstance will make outside fund raising a little easier, as we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district. For instance, our technology initiatives will attract those interested in making a difference in the achievement gap, something to which the DJUSD board does not respond. We will perhaps attract the resources we need to do something significant in technology without having to first align to the interests and biases of DJUSD.

  255. The appeals process is not dissimilar to what we have already done, except we will presenting our case to another agency, in the initial instance to the Yolo County Board of Eduction. If it’s money we need, we’ll post the need here – thank you.

    As I’ve observed to others, the current circumstance will make outside fund raising a little easier, as we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district. For instance, our technology initiatives will attract those interested in making a difference in the achievement gap, something to which the DJUSD board does not respond. We will perhaps attract the resources we need to do something significant in technology without having to first align to the interests and biases of DJUSD.

  256. The appeals process is not dissimilar to what we have already done, except we will presenting our case to another agency, in the initial instance to the Yolo County Board of Eduction. If it’s money we need, we’ll post the need here – thank you.

    As I’ve observed to others, the current circumstance will make outside fund raising a little easier, as we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district. For instance, our technology initiatives will attract those interested in making a difference in the achievement gap, something to which the DJUSD board does not respond. We will perhaps attract the resources we need to do something significant in technology without having to first align to the interests and biases of DJUSD.

  257. “we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district.”

    VOCS will fail if it becomes a magnet school for blacks and Latinos. Already, without the GATE kids, the Valley Oak neighborhood has the lowest test scores in Davis. If whites and Asians are made to feel unwelcome, or if the recruitment focuses on blacks and browns, the test score gap is going to get worse at Valley Oak.

    Most African-American and Hispanic parents will realize that VOCS is a ghetto school, with low test scores, and they will opt for better performing nearby schools.

    High achievement and high test scores are the only way VOCS makes it. As a charter, they will need to offer something more to kids than the district schools offer. If they offer less, the school fails and disappears.

    High tech education is a good approach for the magnet, as it will attract smart kids. Becoming Al Sharpton Elementary is the polar opposite.

  258. “we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district.”

    VOCS will fail if it becomes a magnet school for blacks and Latinos. Already, without the GATE kids, the Valley Oak neighborhood has the lowest test scores in Davis. If whites and Asians are made to feel unwelcome, or if the recruitment focuses on blacks and browns, the test score gap is going to get worse at Valley Oak.

    Most African-American and Hispanic parents will realize that VOCS is a ghetto school, with low test scores, and they will opt for better performing nearby schools.

    High achievement and high test scores are the only way VOCS makes it. As a charter, they will need to offer something more to kids than the district schools offer. If they offer less, the school fails and disappears.

    High tech education is a good approach for the magnet, as it will attract smart kids. Becoming Al Sharpton Elementary is the polar opposite.

  259. “we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district.”

    VOCS will fail if it becomes a magnet school for blacks and Latinos. Already, without the GATE kids, the Valley Oak neighborhood has the lowest test scores in Davis. If whites and Asians are made to feel unwelcome, or if the recruitment focuses on blacks and browns, the test score gap is going to get worse at Valley Oak.

    Most African-American and Hispanic parents will realize that VOCS is a ghetto school, with low test scores, and they will opt for better performing nearby schools.

    High achievement and high test scores are the only way VOCS makes it. As a charter, they will need to offer something more to kids than the district schools offer. If they offer less, the school fails and disappears.

    High tech education is a good approach for the magnet, as it will attract smart kids. Becoming Al Sharpton Elementary is the polar opposite.

  260. “we will be an autonomous majority-minority school trying to make it in a sea of white privilege, rather than just another school that’s part of an affluent district.”

    VOCS will fail if it becomes a magnet school for blacks and Latinos. Already, without the GATE kids, the Valley Oak neighborhood has the lowest test scores in Davis. If whites and Asians are made to feel unwelcome, or if the recruitment focuses on blacks and browns, the test score gap is going to get worse at Valley Oak.

    Most African-American and Hispanic parents will realize that VOCS is a ghetto school, with low test scores, and they will opt for better performing nearby schools.

    High achievement and high test scores are the only way VOCS makes it. As a charter, they will need to offer something more to kids than the district schools offer. If they offer less, the school fails and disappears.

    High tech education is a good approach for the magnet, as it will attract smart kids. Becoming Al Sharpton Elementary is the polar opposite.

  261. Robin… Please listen to the actual “voices” of these parents rather than your own. You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in and is closely integrated into their community.

  262. Robin… Please listen to the actual “voices” of these parents rather than your own. You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in and is closely integrated into their community.

  263. Robin… Please listen to the actual “voices” of these parents rather than your own. You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in and is closely integrated into their community.

  264. Robin… Please listen to the actual “voices” of these parents rather than your own. You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in and is closely integrated into their community.

  265. I am one of those parents from Valley Oak and while my child is not “black or mexican” I think that the education my child is getting at Valley Oak is awesome and she is not a GATE student, I also feel that the exposure to so many different cultures is beneficial for her. She feels like she fits in there and does not suffer some of the prejudices that she might in a school with less diversity!!

  266. I am one of those parents from Valley Oak and while my child is not “black or mexican” I think that the education my child is getting at Valley Oak is awesome and she is not a GATE student, I also feel that the exposure to so many different cultures is beneficial for her. She feels like she fits in there and does not suffer some of the prejudices that she might in a school with less diversity!!

  267. I am one of those parents from Valley Oak and while my child is not “black or mexican” I think that the education my child is getting at Valley Oak is awesome and she is not a GATE student, I also feel that the exposure to so many different cultures is beneficial for her. She feels like she fits in there and does not suffer some of the prejudices that she might in a school with less diversity!!

  268. I am one of those parents from Valley Oak and while my child is not “black or mexican” I think that the education my child is getting at Valley Oak is awesome and she is not a GATE student, I also feel that the exposure to so many different cultures is beneficial for her. She feels like she fits in there and does not suffer some of the prejudices that she might in a school with less diversity!!

  269. “You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in”

    This is EXACTLY what the racists said in opposition to Brown vs. Board of Education. Good to see we’ve come so far.

  270. “You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in”

    This is EXACTLY what the racists said in opposition to Brown vs. Board of Education. Good to see we’ve come so far.

  271. “You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in”

    This is EXACTLY what the racists said in opposition to Brown vs. Board of Education. Good to see we’ve come so far.

  272. “You will hear that THEY feel that THEIR children develop with more self-confidence and positive self-image when their first school experience more closely aligns with the culture they were raised in”

    This is EXACTLY what the racists said in opposition to Brown vs. Board of Education. Good to see we’ve come so far.

  273. Robin…At least 150 Valley Oak parents signed up to send their children to Valley Oak Charter School. These are the “voices” that are speaking here, not mine.

  274. Robin…At least 150 Valley Oak parents signed up to send their children to Valley Oak Charter School. These are the “voices” that are speaking here, not mine.

  275. Robin…At least 150 Valley Oak parents signed up to send their children to Valley Oak Charter School. These are the “voices” that are speaking here, not mine.

  276. Robin…At least 150 Valley Oak parents signed up to send their children to Valley Oak Charter School. These are the “voices” that are speaking here, not mine.

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