Monday Morning Thoughts II: Solving the Underlying Housing Problem

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Earlier this year, the Vanguard argued that the city of Davis faces a crisis on two fronts – one is the massive $655 million shortfall in funding for infrastructure and other needs.  The other is a rental housing crisis, manifested by a 0.2 percent vacancy rate and a rapidly expanding university population that the university will not be able to accommodate.

The community got an interesting taste of the world of renters – renters who struggle to find available rental units, are forced to pay high rent, and receive, at least from some landlords, poor service.  We heard horror stories ranging from the inability to get a returned security deposit to substandard and often dangerous housing, with landlords refusing to repair windows, electrical wiring, heating and even stoves.

While the city is moving to address some of these issues through inspection, others have quite accurately pointed out that part of the problem is that the tight market disincentivizes landlords to maintain their property – after all, they can still make the same amount without investing in the property and they know their tenants have few resources.

As Mark West put it, “The best way to deal with the imbalance of power between the landlords and their tenants is to raise the vacancy rate up to 5% or so. Landlords lose their power when tenants have realistic options.”

By the same token, we have heard stories where mini-dorms have accommodated as many as 16 tenants at a time – due to the lack of space and to unaffordability.  The result is frequent complaints about noise, nuisance, parking and partying.

This is not a problem likely to go away simply with ordinances and monitoring – in part because students need a place to live, and landlords have an incentive to find ways to get extra money.  As one landlord put it, this is a business.  Interestingly enough, he expressed surprise to the council about the lack of ordinance or regulation.

Two weeks ago, the university in their LRDP (Long Range Development Plan) modified a previous stance about on-campus housing.  Back in October, the university claimed it would not be able to accommodate all of the new student growth – projected at more than 6000 over the next decade with as many as 9000 student, faculty and staff.  They have now stated that they will accommodate 90 percent of that student growth.

That has been trumpeted as a big victory for the community – and in some respects, it is.  At the same time, we need to acknowledge its limitations.  First, as we have noted, the university has attempted to grow through the development of West Village and the densification of Orchard and Solano Parks – but those efforts have proven difficult.

Second, while this is part of the preliminary LRDP, it is still early in the process.  The LRDP planning document is not even in draft form.  If this does get approval from the Regents, it won’t be finalized until 2017 and, as noted previously, there is no timeline for building the housing or guarantee that it will get built.

In short, while welcome news, the announcement from the university does not in and of itself solve the housing crisis.

Moreover, as people have noted, the current crisis exists now at current levels of enrollment.  We need to solve the problem as of now.  Even taking on 90 percent of the new students leaves 10 percent, at least, that need to be housed off-campus.  And 6200 students leaves another 2800 faculty and staff that will not be accommodated with new housing either.

Right now, voters are two weeks away from answering the question about Nishi, but even once that is resolved, there remain critical questions.  If Nishi passes, we still need to probably accommodate another few thousand beds.  If Nishi doesn’t pass, the number increases to perhaps as high as 3000 to 5000 beds.

Peripheral housing, even in smaller projects like Nishi or Wildhorse Ranch, has proven to be politically uncertain at best and possibly impossible at worst.  Infill, as we have seen from small projects like Paso Fino, and larger projects like Trackside and Sterling and perhaps Lincoln40, are fraught with uncertainties.  The fact also remains that there are simply not a lot of large infill sites left and those that remain are likely to trigger neighborhood and potentially community backlash.

It has been pointed out that the city is operating with an old and some believe outdated General Plan – there is push for a discussion here.  A key question for that process and any other visioning process is how we can deal with the issue of student housing in our community – and hopefully figure out a way to alleviate the pressure of university growth and the pressure that student renters are putting on single-family homes and the neighborhoods.

—David M. Greenwald reporting

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  1. The community got an interesting taste of the world of renters – renters who struggle to find available rental units, are forced to pay high rent, and receive at least from some landlords poor service.  We heard horror stories ranging from the inability to get a returned security deposit to substandard and often dangerous housing, with landlords refusing to repair windows, electrical wiring, heating and even stoves.

    Renters need to know their rights.  If a place is uninhabitable (must have hot and cold running water, heat and air conditioning, must not be overrun with vermin or cockroaches, must be waterproof, must have electricity), there are remedies, e.g. don’t pay rent until landlord fixes the problem, repair and deduct the costs of repair from rent (the landlord may start eviction proceedings, but if the premises are uninhabitable and the tenant has tangible proof such as photos, the judge will order the premises to be repaired and side with the tenant).  Tenants need to understand what their right are and how to exercise them.

    Right now, voters are two weeks away from answering the question about Nishi, but even once that is resolved, there remain critical questions.  If Nishi passes, we still need to probably accommodate another few thousand beds.  If Nishi doesn’t pass, the number increases to perhaps as high as 3000 to 5000 beds.

    More student housing is a good reason to vote Yes on A, not to mention $1.4 million in tax revenue to the city, $400,000 to DJUSD, new jobs, much needed R&D space for new business, $23 million in traffic improvements to the Richards underpass area.

     

    1. I’m troubled by your comment that wants to put this on renters to know their rights.  You’re expecting young students, sometimes barely in their twenties to assert their rights against wealthy and experienced landlords and their attorneys.  That just doesn’t make sense.  We need to create a system that protects them.  That said, that’s only a small portion of this article, which argues one way to protect them better is to increase supply which will allow them to option of moving out of troublesome spots, whereas now they are basically trapped.

      1. Are you kidding me?  My comment in no way should be construed to mean I am expecting young students to know their rights. I thought I made it pretty clear that they “need to know their rights”!

        1. I think his point was needing to know their rights is impractical – and it’s not just knowing their rights, it’s asserting them in a seller’s market that’s the problem.

  2. I’ll put this to the No on A people – do you guys even give a crap about students and where they will live.  It’s obvious Harrington doesn’t.  Or is your only solution to put it to UC Davis to supply more housing and wash your hands?  If not, what’s your solution?

    1. TP – I agree with you.  But even worse are those that are No on everything…  Trackside, Sterling, MRIC… Every peripheral development project.

      Virginia Postrel wrote about these people.  The title of the book is “The Future and its Enemies: the growing conflict over creativity, enterprise and progress.”

      These are the people with the stasis worldview.  They are wired in conflict with the modern world of dynamism.  They migrated to Davis at some point because they believed it was a stasis enclave… A place where they could be more comfortable in a changing world otherwise causing them so much stress.  They see risk in change while the dynamist sees opportunity.  They feel so anxious about potential personal impacts from change that they can only deny the corresponding evidence of impacts caused by lack of change.

      I value these people as contributing to the conversation leading up to a decision.  However, in Davis they are given the keys for decisions.  Measure R is their change-preventing atom bomb.

      Measure R is the problem.

       

  3. Just because yes on A people say student every time they say housing when talking about the Nishi development does not make it student housing. The, freeway adjacency, train station proximity and ready access to the downtown make this new development an ideal place for I80 corridor commuters. The higher cost of the housing makes it more likely that young professionals will live there than students. Just look at the similarities between this project and the freeway adjacent commuter apartments and Condos along I80 in Emeryville. It’s a bummer because we need an innovative project that does a better job of affordable providing student housing.

    1. HouseFlipper said . . . “Just because yes on A people say student every time they say housing when talking about the Nishi development does not make it student housing. The, freeway adjacency, train station proximity and ready access to the downtown make this new development an ideal place for I80 corridor commuters.”

      There are no silver bullet answers to a lot of the questions that swirl around Nishi.  What the demographics of the tenants of the Nishi apartments is one of those questions.

      For me, the experiences of my life inform how I look at that question.  I start with a question.  How large is the number of I-80 corridor commuters who are looking for an apartment in Davis?  Then pare that number down to a subset … an estimate of the proportion of those commuters who would want to live in Nishi as opposed to other apartment locations in Davis.  Then I ask myself, if I were one of those commuting professionals, would I want to live in the middle of a bunch of rowdy UCD students.  My experience tells me that the answer to that question is “No.”  That would be even more emphatically “no” if I had a kid or kids.  College students carousing and drinking isn’t an atmosphere I would want to put my kid into.

      The same logic applies to seniors.  What senior in his/her right mind would want to live in a fraternity environment?

      So, based on human nature factors I think the 440 apartments are going to be very close to 100% students.

      The condos will be more conducive to your I-80 commuters, but the jury is out for me on that.  My crystal ball tells me that the Davis landlord community is going to be very interested in buying the 210 condos as student rental properties.  If that happens, then I fully expect the free market dynamics will work the same way in the condos as they do in the apartments.

      JMHO

      1. Matt, thank you for your thoughtful comment. I appreciate that you are taking time from your busy campaign schedule to participate in this forum and I commend you on that.

        I do however think you’re missing a key point here – if the housing is majority commuter, the commuters will not be living among a bunch of “rowdy students” (which most UCD students are not by the way). We will not know for sure what the developers intentions are until we see the marketing but as you have agreed, there are no guarantees.

        What I do know is this housing is more like the freeway adjacent developments in the bay area than it is any other development in Davis.

        As to your assumption that this will be student housing because other complexes in Davis are student housing – it is fatally flawed. That would be like saying Mace Ranch attracted the same demographics as did Village Homes. The Developers and the Yes campaign regularly hold this development up as different than any other previous development in Davis. You can’t have it both ways –  if it is different, then it is reasonable to assume it could be populated differently. Thinking that this will be just students is a classic head in the sand Davis perspective. People from outside of Davis will look at this and see new commuter housing. To Mr. Whitcombe’s credit, some very desirable commuter housing (except for the air quality and traffic of course – but bringing in people from out of town will help overcome selling that). This is certainly the best hyped project he has ever proposed (although from a historical actual good development perspective I am partial to the Sun Tree apartments for their very early adoption of solar technology).

         
        The project certainly has other flaws as well, but relevant to this article, I just think we need more safe, affordable, student housing, not more commuter housing.

        1. Thank you for the kind words HouseFlipper.  With all due respect, I think your majority commuter scenario has as much chance of happening as a Ted Cruz presidential nomination this year.  Why would any substantial number of people want to have a 5-day a week regimen of get up in their apartment, then on the train in Davis early in the morning, ride to the Bay Area, then work a full day, then ride back to Davis, then crash in their apartment?  The reasons they would be willing to do that would be for the schools for their children.  So the real question is whether the Nishi apartments are going to be attractive enough to young couples with children to produce over 220 “We’re going to rent there” decisions.

          College students by definition are rowdy.  Just look at Picnic Day, or Fraternity parties, or the Mrak Hall occupation or the US Bank occupation.  They think of themselves as invincible and are very understandably self centered. They will smoke pot and drink alcohol in communal settings.

          The difference between this freeway adjacent housing and the Bay Area freeway adjacent housing is that there is no adjacent University within walking distance to the Bay Area examples.  That produces a different market dynamic.  For the most part groups of UCD students have more financial wherewithal than a commuter does, especially if/when those students are part of the 5,300 who are paying full tuition because they are out-of-state or out-of country.

          Your model rests on the assumption that more than 220 commuters will decide Davis is the best location to commute from.  When I look at that assumption I’m from Missouri.

          HouseFlipper said . . . “As to your assumption that this will be student housing because other complexes in Davis are student housing – it is fatally flawed.”

          Can you point me to the place where I said this will be student housing because other complexes in Davis are student housing?   I think you are confusing me with someone else.

  4. Robb Davis once said something along the lines of… “all the answers are in the EIR…you just have to read it” and it was passed unanimously by the Council and supported by all candidates. Included in there, I believe, is the assumption that 85% will indeed be students, very conservative, and based on surveys of nearby complexes. In addition all the traffic modeling was included for the connection to campus and the trips on Old Davis Rd;  also included were all the air quality questions and issues (and opinions) raised by Tom Cahill.  The City’s EIR consultant summarized, that, with all this information combined, looked at holistically,  the project will serve as a model of sustainability for the region. I think SACOG and the CA Strategic Growth council agreed and actually funded portions of the study because of the tremendous capability of this project to improve air quality for the region and reduce greenhouse gas emissions. This was then certified unanimously by the planning commission and the City Council.  Pick and choose items to make your argument (that is not the purpose of the EIR- the EIR balances each argument) , but the answers to all questions and comments are contained in these documents.

  5. If housing really is the problem then why the R & D space?  Why can’t the entire development be housing (without access to Richards as I’ve described before since they’re all “supposed” to ride or bike to work or classes)?

    R & D is a total BS issue dreamt up by the Nishi developers.  You can’t tell us they didn’t think how to make Nishi as profitable for them as possible by adding high paid workers (techies) and space for money making upstarts.  There is tons of space for R & D on 2nd Street (along the tracks) and there are “for lease” signs all along the road, some places vacant for years.  Why don’t we keep the high-tech belongs, on 2nd across from the tracks where it belongs (and definitely in easy bicycling distance from UCD)?  I could think of another 4-5 commercial spaces in town that have been available for years too.

    So stop it with the housing issue.  If Nishi was indeed intended to help solve our housing shortage to serve students then the whole development should serve just housing needs while building it affordable enough for them to live there!

    1. We have both a housing shortage and a commercial space shortage.  Nishi partially addresses both issues but is not large enough to fully address either alone. The proposed mixed-use project is an appropriate solution that was derived following years of community input and is an example of sound planning.

        1. “We don’t have a commercial space shortage – in fact we have a glut of unleased commercial space.”

          Not all commercial space is equal, and much that is empty may not be appropriate for a prospective business.  In addition, much of the commercial space in town has restrictive zoning limiting the types of businesses that are allowed. As an example, when I was looking to start my business in town, there were a half dozen or so possibilities (empty buildings within our size specifications), but when I spoke with the City, only two had the proper zoning and one in a desirable location.

          When there are limited options, the landowners have the power, just as is the case of rental housing. Commercial rents in Davis are high relative to the region, and the options are limited. As for the bare ground, most of that is not ‘available’ at a reasonable price. The combined effect is that we have a shortage of commercial space that is appropriate and affordable for new businesses.

        2. There is no shortage of unleased commercial space. There is no shortage of buildable lots.

          Let’s start with buildable lots.  Nishi is, at best, the fourth largest opportunity site I am aware of.

          1. Panattoni – 14.8 acres
          2. University Research Park – 12.4 acres (in 4 contiguous parcels)
          3. Mace Ranch – 7.1 acres (east of DTL)
          4. Nishi – 4-6 acres (per the Baseline Project Features)

          There are numerous other smaller opportunity sites spread around the City. It’s too much work to pull together a complete list.

          If the demand was anywhere close to what is being pitched to the public, then some of these parcels would already be in play (either by the owners or a buyer). Remember, we have been getting smoke blown up our collective a****s about a huge mythical demand for tech space since 2010. If it was real, we would have seen some tangible evidence by now.

          In my opinion, the need for large parcels to support recruitment and expansion of companies like FMC is legit, but the rest of the story is complete b******t.

          I’ll post on vacant commercial space later.

        3. There is no shortage of unleased commercial space. There is no shortage of buildable lots.

          Dude, there is a HUGE SHORTAGE of commercial space and build-able lots.   Again, you are talking about things apparently way above your pay-grade.  You need to stop unless you want to see your hard-earned credibility as thoughtful and informed poster degrade to crud.

          You really don’t have a clue about this.

        4. CalAg:  “Remember, we have been getting smoke blown up our collective a****s about a huge mythical demand for tech space since 2010. If it was real, we would have seen some tangible evidence by now.”

          I’d have to disagree with you, regarding this.  There is, in fact, a huge “demand” for mixed use at Nishi, because it allows the developer to bypass affordable housing requirements! 🙂 (Unless, of course, it doesn’t withstand the legal challenge regarding the city’s decision to exclude the development.)

          Also, it seems that the developer literally interpreted the term “mixed use”, since there was already some discussion regarding “mixing” residential uses within the commercial space, e.g., laundry rooms). (Mark – that’s your cue to make some outrageous statement regarding the ordinance!)

          In all seriousness, I suspect that the developer would have preferred a completely residential development, if it wasn’t subjected to affordable housing requirements. (And, if the city wasn’t involved in pushing for an “innovation center” at this site.)

        5. CalAg – You cannot just drive around and count signs to come up with an opinion like this.  It would be like me counting the number of cool days this month to claim that there is no global warming problem.

          First, the commercial vacancy rates in Davis are very low compared to other comparable cities.

          Much of the space available in Davis is run-down and not well-suited. Redevelopment generally costs MORE than does ground-up development… especially in this age of hyper-environmental code requirements.

          The build-able lots that are available are strange-shaped, not zoned for the correct use… or near residential residents that have proven to be more than fussy and prone to oppose almost any change.

          You are wrong here… VERY wrong.  It is not a path you should continue on.

          And it is a weird path given your agreement with me that Davis needs 1000 acres of new commercial development over the next 30-50 years.

        6. Dear CalAg… I am a commercial and investment real estate broker ..representing landlords and tenants .. primarily in the office and lab market.  I am a Davis resident and have lots of great clients in Davis. I am called upon frequently to describe and support regional and local commercial real estate facts and trends.

          The facts are that there is a real a shortage of available spaces in Davis for many kinds of businesses.  

          Here is a broad overview;  the Sacramento Region has about 88 million square feet of office properties and less than 2 million feet in Davis and Woodland combined. The Davis market has a office vacancy of less than 7% and that vacancy is declining.  In addition the Sacramento Region has about 140,620,376 square  feet of Industrial Properties.  Davis has about 582,708 feet of Industrial.  The regional industrial vacancy is a little under 10% and the Davis Industrial Vacancy is under 1%.

          Here is a link to an office report that my firm produces that you can download and read; http://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/research-and-insight/california-north/sacramento-office-snapshot

          Here is a link to the Industrial Market information again that is available to download and read.  http://www.cushmanwakefield.com/en/research-and-insight/california-north/sacramento-industrial-snapshot.

          My business partner and I produce a commercial real estate newsletter twice a year focused exclusively on Davis and here is a link to our last newsletter from the first of the year.  In that newsletter we make every reasonable effort to  describe market conditions for business real estate in Davis.

          file:///Users/jimgray/Downloads/Newsletter_2016_Thoughts_on_the_New_Year.pdf

          By the way business owners and managers  consider a wide variety of variables including market conditions — as well as  wide number of objective and subjective measures before determining whether to locate or expand in a particular location.

          So … CalAg, I am sure that you are knowledgeable and an expert about something.  But I am convinced that it is not commercial or business real estate and maybe not in pursuing the facts.

          I am sure that you have expressed an opinion about commercial real estate availability that is not supported by the facts.

          I’d now encourage you to read the information and then call me names and allege that I am only self serving because that will be easier for you to do than defending your position with the facts.

           

        7. Thanks Matt for injecting more facts into the discussion.

          I would drop the superfund site as unbuildable. University Research Park totals 12.4 acres, so it looks like a parcel or two may be missing.

          It will also be useful to tabulate all the commercial space that is vacant.

        8. “I’d now encourage you to read the information and then call me names and allege that I am only self serving because that will be easier for you to do than defending your position with the facts.” @ Jim Gray

          Wow …

          Rather than posting your bona fides, it would be more helpful in promoting a fact-based discussion if you would just post a list of all vacant office and industrial space in the City of Davis.

           

        9. “Much of the space available in Davis is run-down and not well-suited. Redevelopment generally costs MORE than does ground-up development… especially in this age of hyper-environmental code requirements.” @ Frankly

          Frankly: We’re generally in agreement on tech park development but disagree on our existing inventory. Are you arguing that we shouldn’t expect the private sector to re-use R&D space that has been vacated? What do you think should now be done with the vacant Monsanto and MBI spaces? Should small to medium size tech companies expect that we accommodate them with green field development on ag land?

          1. What do you think should now be done with the vacant Monsanto and MBI spaces?

            They should tear them down and redevelop that whole stretch of Fifth Street.

        10. Dear CalAg and readers.  You asked me to provide you with a list of the Office and Industrial Properties on the Market in Davis.

          …. it would be more helpful in promoting a fact-based discussion if you would just post a list of all vacant office and industrial space in the City of Davis.

          Assuming a company with a need for 25 employees, and 5 employees for every 1,000 square feet, that would be office/flex buildings larger than 5,000 feet.  Here is a list from the commercial data base/ like a Multiple Listing Service/ Loopnet.

          http://www.loopnet.com/for-lease/davis-ca/multiple-property-types/?sk=eec976af4b802cd85a3794c5dd601eff&sc=401|405|406|408|413|415|4151|4153|801|802|803|804|807|810

          The report includes pictures, and information on the properties.  There are a handful of “real choices” and many listings that are vacant and available for a “reason”. … Functional Obsolete, Sublease, Upstairs without ADA Compliance, No internet access, etc for example.

          Again the facts and the data demonstrate that we have an extreme shortage of choices.

           

        11. I obviously touched a nerve, so let me me as clear as possible.

          My position is that we have sufficient existing commercial space and in-fill opportunities throughout Davis to serve our anemic small tech company market (which includes UCD spinouts and UCD affiliated startups) that the 325,000 sq ft of Nishi “innovation space” is supposedly targeting (according to the City and the developers).

          This is relevant because of the traffic study in the EIR. It states that if the Nishi project (which includes the UCD connection) is built, the key intersection at Richards/Olive will degrade from LOS B to LOS F. The intersection (as bad as it is) is currently only rated as LOS B/C during the traffic peaks, so I shudder to think what LOS F would be like. In my opinion, although having some class A space near UCD (which startups typically can’t offer) would be a nice-to-have, it is not worth trashing the Richards corridor to get it.

          The responses to me stating my position on tech space have been pretty hostile … some coming from professionals that know better. I’ll take that as prima facia evidence that I’m right.

          “you are talking about things apparently way above your pay-grade”

          “You are wrong here… VERY wrong.  It is not a path you should continue on.”

          “I am sure that you are knowledgeable and an expert about something … maybe not in pursuing the facts.”

          “You really don’t have a clue about this.”

          “I’d now encourage you to read the information and then call me names and allege that I am only self serving because that will be easier for you to do than defending your position with the facts.”

          In response to this last inappropriate zinger from Jim Gray, here’s a quote from his Davis Market Report published in early 2016.  https://cassidyturley.onehub.com/d/o4ln/

          We have identified 32 buildings labeled as office or flex properties containing 44 suites currently on the market “for lease” accounting for ±122,900 square feet of space. There is a growing supply of co-working, executive office suites, including Pollinate Davis, Davis Roots, and soon a maker space called Area 52 that is under development in the former Moller Building.  It is our hunch that the growth in these alternative spaces and new efforts at incubating and supporting start-ups, not to mention all of the coffee shops with internet connections, has made the demand for small office suites decline and more difficult to lease-up. There are 26 spaces offered for lease between 1,000 and 2,500 square feet.  This is the size range with the greatest supply to choose from. Of note, there are six buildings in the downtown core currently seeking office tenants with a mix of suites from ±217 to ±1,183 square feet.

          The text speaks for itself, but I’m tired of debating the issue.

        12. CalAg:  “The text speaks for itself, but I’m tired of debating the issue.”

          Yeap – some are counting on wearing opponents down (via insults, or by making ludicrous arguments), regardless of facts.  Some may have a direct or indirect financial interest in doing so.

          I’d like to thank you for your research, and for the logical arguments you make.  Overall, you make these points better than most on the Vanguard, and frequently bring up issues that others have not considered.  Please continue to do so.

          I also question the market demand for the commercial space at Nishi, and agree that it’s probably not worth trashing the primary entry point to the city, regardless.

    2. You guys have been arguing we have enough R&D space because you see some listing – how much R&D space do we have in Davis?  How many locations?  How much square feet?  How suitable is the space?  Time to stop arguing by anecdote.

      1. As I stated in another thread.  Drive down 2nd Street near the tracks.  Count how many for lease signs and see all the empty lots.  Right at the front of the center, where the Yes campaign has their office, there is a sign that has been there for years advertising space for R&D.

        IMO 2nd Streed is where we should put our high tech startups and industries.  There is no better place in town.  I’d much rather see the developer pay for the clean-up of the superfund site to get zoning approval, rather than place it at Nishi.  Plus, 2nd street isn’t but a ten minute ride to campus by bike for those working with UCD.

    3. Odin –

      If the entire development was housing, then it would be financial drain on Davis, and would give the NO on A crowd something else to sell against the project.

      What do you mean the impact on Olive residents wasn’t mitigated?   What are the impacts you wish to see mitigated?

       

      1. The financial impact of gentrifying a part of town without considering the cost of living increases for those who can’t afford it.  If they went into this without thinking it would impact how developers eye the rest of Olive (Come on here, let’s not play dumb.  Developers have been eyeballing the area since they see a cash cow if Nishi is developed and Richards is altered to meet their needs) then they made a major oversight.  But I doubt that because, as we are seeing all over the country, those who have money don’t really care what those without it think.

        1. Nishi is really not connected to what happens to residents living in West Olive Drive. It invests millions to improve Richards and make the intersection at Olive Drive safer–especially for pedestrians and bicyclists who currently have to negotiate with traffic headed on and off of 80. Nishi creates a barrier separated bicycle and pedestrian path that traverses 80. Nishi will not displace any residents, but it will create more housing that can help reduce the housing pressure you are worried about. The cost of living increases you mention would, if anything, be helped by Nishi.

        2. Davis4Nishi… I may be wrong, but sm pretty sure the only “residents” of West Olive are those ‘residing’ at the existing hotel, or the ‘homeless’.. can you clarify?

          ref:  “what happens to residents living in West Olive Drive…”

  6. The EIR does not mention the $1.4m to City annually and $400,000 to schools and the 1500 jobs. Those numbers were complied by other City consultants and fully vetted through commissions after listening to the No on A crowd (and Yes) who attended all the meetings and all 4 consecutive City Council meetings where entire agendas were devoted to this subject.  Once again, despite their testimony the City Council unanimously approved the project for the ballot and signed the argument urging voters to vote Yes on Measure A.

    1. Something must have gone wrong with the disseminated of information about Nishi to the general public.  I swear many didn’t learn about the Richard/Olive access being part of the project until a few months ago.

  7. Odin, the maps have not changed in years. In 2014 – 3 alternatives were revealed after a year of land planning- all had the access as shown to both campus and Olive Drive.  It was also studied in the EIR that way. I think you are overestimating the impact- but I respect your opinion. This has been a clear and transparent process. In fact West Olive drive businesses and tenants and property owners met first in 2013 at one of the very first stakeholder meetings.

    1. Olive extends much further than the east end, and we residents weren’t notified of any meetings on Nishi.  Maybe property owners were, but renters were left out of the equation, and most likely on purpose.

  8. Here’s my problem with all of this.  Some here are talking about yes on Aers as though it were a foregone conclusion that some of us would support this project.  I can tell you, I have not supported the other Measure J projects – Covell or WHR.  I am concerned about our housing and budgetary needs.  However, I was still persuadable.  But what has lost me here is the over-the-top rhetoric by the no side.   It’s unsupportable and gross hyperbole – we don’t need jobs, this is the worst project project, student ghetto, destruction of the south Davis entrance, gentrification, etc.  Sorry you lost me and any reasonable person reading these pages.

    1. Fumy, what first lost me was the yes on A Astro turfing by Spafford & Lincoln. It really deserves a full investigation and it seems like my post yesterday is being ignored. I have looked into this company and their staff and associates. It is pretty interesting information which would beg the question of the Vanguard look into the genesis of this company and who is associated with it.
      For instance it was very surprising to me to see that former City Council member Stephen Souza is the “Vice President of Board of Directors” at Spafford and Lincoln Inc. yet he is constantly being put forward as a “citizen supporting the project”. How much is he being paid by Spafford and Lincoln to work on the Yes on Measure A campaign?

      Heeah Yoo is a “Graphic Design Intern” at Spafford and Lincoln, but is also listed on the Aggie website as a Design Director. That would seem to be a conflict of interest.

      Ryan Downer he is a “Field Organizer” with Spafford & Lincoln, also holds ASUCD positions and claims to be a writer for the Aggie.
       
      How many other people are being paid by Spafford and Lincoln help get Measure A passed? From what I can tell from looking at the Spafford and Lincoln videos and information available online, it is quite a few – some of them even work for members of Congress while also working at Spafford and Lincoln. Why doesn’t the Vanguard do some real investigative reporting on the Yes on Measure A campaign, and this very interesting PR firm behind it?